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The fact that these 2 groups vote overwhelmingly Democratic is because they're being fooled by the evil liberals and these groups are just too stupid and gullible to know any better. Exactly correct. Admission is the first step to recovery. You're on your way Whomod!  So you're saying minorities are stupid?
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Anyone who buys into the Democratic party's retardation is stupid. Unlike you and your separatist ideals, I don't discriminate.
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Anyone who buys into the Democratic party's retardation is stupid. Unlike you and your separatist ideals, I don't discriminate. 
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If your point is that there have been racists in both parties, that's a valid point. However, the original article is, as you know, about "history."
The GOP was formed largely to end slavery. In contrast, as set forth, the founders of the Democrat party were were overt racists, supported slavery, and kept up that racist history well into the 1960s. I'm not defending the racist democrats of the 19th Century, but wasn't another reason (for the regular guy) to vote for DP to get more democracy*, more freedom for states and less centralization of power? *In the form of "Jacksonian democracy", started by Andrew Jackson and meant that magistrates that supports a certain party get jobs when a new Government with that party wins. This led however to corruption and inefficient bureaucracy.
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Both parties were content to let the status quo stand till the 1960's Well, maybe... if you don't count that whole Republican elimination of slavery thing. How much did the Republicans do to stop poll taxes etc after the Civil War? I've read that many rights for blacks were only on paper, not de facto, until the Civil Rights Movement.  Just asking. 
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Both parties were content to let the status quo stand till the 1960's Well, maybe... if you don't count that whole Republican elimination of slavery thing. How much did the Republicans do to stop poll taxes etc after the Civil War? I've read that many rights for blacks were only on paper, not de facto, until the Civil Rights Movement. Just asking. Republicans talk a good game when it comes to low taxes "Read my lips, no more taxes" but it's all bull shit.
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Poll tax was something you had to pay in order to be able to vote. Lots of black couldn't pay it (I guess not all whites, either).
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Ron Paul used a really great quote the other day when he was on meet the press. I can't remember what it was, but I liked it. It basically said that War makes people willing to give up liberty. And not just literal war but a war on drugs and what not. Well, it's true, any time anything threatens are safety or soveriegnity the Republicans will pay/charge just as shamelessly as the Democrats will.
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Southern strategyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the focus of the Republican party on winning U.S. Presidential elections by securing the electoral votes of the U.S. Southern states.
Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to Richard Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it[1], but merely popularized it[2]. In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:
From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."[3]
While Phillips was concerned with polarizing ethnic voting in general, and not just with winning the white South, this was by far the biggest prize yielded by his approach. Its success began at the presidential level, gradually trickling down to statewide offices, the Senate and House, as legacy segregationist Democrats retired or switched to the GOP. The strategy suffered a brief apparent reversal following Watergate, with broad support for the racially progressive Southern Democrat, Jimmy Carter in the 1976 election. But with Ronald Reagan kicking off his 1980 presidential campaign proclaiming support for "states' rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the site of the murder of three civil rights workers in 1964's Freedom Summer, the Southern Strategy was back to stay. Although another Southern Democrat, Bill Clinton, would twice be elected President, winning a handful of Southern states, he did better outside the South, and would have won without carrying any Southern State.
From 1948 to 1984 the Southern states, traditionally a stronghold for the Democrats, became key swing states, providing the popular vote margins in the 1960, 1968 and 1976 elections. During this era, several Republican candidates expressed support for states' rights, which was a signal of opposition to federal civil rights legislation for blacks.[4]
Recently, the term has been used in a more general sense, in which cultural themes are used in an election — primarily but not exclusively in the American South. In the past, phrases such as "busing" or "law and order" or "states' rights" were used as code words. Today, appeals largely focus on cultural issues such as gay marriage, abortion, and religion. Yet, the use of the term, and its meaning and implication, are still hotly disputed.
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After the American Civil War, Southern states gained seats in the House of Representatives and representation in the Electoral College since blacks were fully counted for election purposes, instead of being counted as only three-fifths of a person. Resentment stemming from the Civil War and the Republican Party’s policy of Reconstruction kept Southern whites in the Democratic Party, but the Republicans could still compete in the Southern States with a coalition of blacks and highland whites. After the North agreed to withdraw federal troops under the Compromise of 1877, and the further failure of the "Force Bill" (to protect black voting) in 1890, Southern blacks, the base of Republicans' power in that region, became increasingly disenfranchised. The white Democratic Party in the South enacted Jim Crow Laws and, through the terror of vigilantes and the Ku Klux Klan, undertook other measures to ensure and enforce black disenfranchisement. As blacks lost their vote, the Republican Party lost its ability to effectively compete.
The South became solidly Democratic until the middle of the 20th century. During this period, Republicans held only a few House seats from the South. Between 1880 and 1904, Republican presidential candidates in the South received between 35 and 40 percent of that section's vote (except in 1892, when the 16 percent for the Populists knocked Republicans down to 25 percent). From 1904 to 1948, Republicans broke 30 percent of the section only in the 1920 (35.2 percent, carrying Tennessee) and 1928 elections (47.7 percent, carrying five states). The only important political role of the South in presidential elections came in the 1912 election, when it provided the delegates to select Taft over Theodore Roosevelt in that year's Republican convention.
During this period, Republicans occasionally supported anti-lynching bills, which were filibustered in the Senate, and appointed a few black placeholders, but largely ignored the South. It was not until the 1928 election that the situation changed. In that year, Republican candidate Herbert Hoover rode the issues of prohibition and anti-Catholicism to carry five former Confederate states, with 62 of the 126 electoral votes of the section. After his victory, Hoover attempted to build up the Republican Party of the South, transferring patronage away from blacks and toward the same kind of white Protestant businessmen who made up the core of the Northern Republican Party. However, with the onset of the Great Depression, which severely impacted the South, Hoover soon became extremely unpopular, and the gains of the Republican Party in the South were lost. In the 1932 election, Hoover received only 18.1 percent of the Southern vote for re-election. The subsequent policies of Franklin Roosevelt were very popular in the South, precluding Republican growth in the region.
In the 1948 election, after Truman had desegregated the Army, a group of Southern Democrats known as Dixiecrats split from the Democratic Party in reaction to the inclusion of a strong civil rights plank in the party's platform, following a floor fight lead by Minneapolis Mayor (and soon-to-be Senator) Hubert Humphrey. They formed the States' Rights Democratic, or Dixiecrat, Party, and nominated Governor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina for president; he won four Southern states. The main plank of the States' Rights Democratic Party was maintaining segregation and Jim Crow in the South. The Dixiecrats, failing to deny the Democrats the presidency in 1948, soon dissolved, but the split lingered. (In 1964, Thurmond was one of the first conservative southern Democrats to switch to the Republicans).
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In addition to the splits in the Democratic Party, the population movements of World War II had a significant effect on the makeup of the South. The addition of many Northern transplants significantly bolstered the base of the Republican Party in the South. In the post-war Presidential campaigns, Republicans did best in the fastest-growing states of the South with the most Northern settlers. In the 1952, 1956 and 1960 elections, Virginia, Tennessee and Florida went Republican all three times, while Louisiana went Republican in 1956, and Texas twice voted for Eisenhower and once for Kennedy. In 1956, Eisenhower received 48.9 percent of the Southern vote, and he became the second Republican in history (after Grant) to get a plurality of Southern votes. However, the states of the Deep South remained loyal to the Democratic Party, which had not officially repudiated segregation. Indeed, the "Yankee transplant" does not explain the Republican rise in the "Deep South" states. Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and North Carolina actually lost Congressional seats from the 1950s to the 1970s, while Georgia, South Carolina, and Louisiana remained static. The racial turmoil in these states precluded many businesses from relocating there.
Many of the so-called states' rights Democrats were attracted to the 1964 presidential campaign of Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona. Goldwater was notably more conservative than previous Republican nominees, such as Dwight D. Eisenhower. Goldwater's principal opponent in the primary election, Governor Nelson Rockefeller of New York, was widely seen as representing the more moderate (and pro-Civil Rights), Northern wing of the party (see Rockefeller Republican, Goldwater Republican). Rockefeller's defeat in the primary is often seen as a turning point towards a more conservative Republican party, and the beginning of a long decline for moderate and especially liberal Republicans. Goldwater’s primary victory is also seen as a shift of the center of Republican power to the West and South.
In the 1964 presidential campaign, Barry Goldwater ran a very conservative campaign, part of which emphasized on "states' rights." Goldwater's 1964 campaign was a magnet for them. As a conservative, Goldwater broadly opposed strong action by the federal government. However, although he had supported all previous federal Civil Rights legislation, Goldwater made the decision to oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964. His stance was based on his view that the act was an intrusion of the federal government into the affairs of states and, second, that the Act interfered with the rights of private persons to do business, or not, with whomever they chose. In addition, Goldwater's primary delegate slate from the South had no blacks, but was filled instead with white segregationists. All this appealed to racist white Southern Democrats, and Goldwater was the first Republican to win the electoral votes of the Deep South states (Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina) since Reconstruction. However, this vote proved devastating to Goldwater’s campaign everywhere outside the south (besides Dixie, Goldwater won only in Arizona, his home state) contributing to his landslide defeat in 1964. A Lyndon B. Johnson ad called "Confessions of a Republican," which ran in the North, associated Goldwater with the Ku Klux Klan. At the same time, Johnson’s campaign in the Deep South publicized Goldwater’s full history on civil rights. In the end, Johnson swept the election.
At this time, Senator Goldwater’s position was at odds with most of the prominent members of the Republican Party, dominated at that time by so-called Eastern Establishment. A higher percentage of the Republican Party supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than did the Democratic Party, as they had on all previous Civil Rights legislation. The Southern Democrats often opposed their Northern Party mates--and their presidents (Kennedy and Johnson) on civil rights issues.
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Roots of the Southern strategyLyndon Johnson knew that his endorsement of Civil Rights legislation would endanger his party in the South, but he did it anyway. The national Democratic party turned its back on segregation, and also abandoned segregationist voters in the South. In the election of 1968, Richard Nixon saw the cracks in the Solid South as an opportunity to tap into a group of voters that had heretofore been beyond the reach of the Republican Party.
The United States was undergoing a very turbulent period in 1968. The founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and most influential member of the Civil Rights Movement, Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated on April 4, 1968. His death was followed by black rioting throughout the country. King’s policy of non-violence was being challenged by more radical blacks and by the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. There were protests, often violent, against the Vietnam War. The drug subculture was causing alarm in many sectors. Nixon, with the aid of Harry Dent and then South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who had switched parties in 1964, ran on a campaign of states' rights and "law and order." Many liberals accused Nixon of pandering to racist Southern whites, especially with regards to his "states' rights" and "law and order" stands.[5]
The independent candidacy of George Wallace, a former Democratic governor of Alabama, partially negated the southern strategy. With a much more explicit attack on black civil rights, Wallace won all of Goldwater's states (except South Carolina), as well as Arkansas and one of North Carolina's electoral votes. However, Nixon picked up Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina and Florida, while Democratic nominee Hubert Humphrey won only Texas. In 1972, Nixon swept the South, winning over 70 percent of the popular vote in the Deep South states and Florida, and over 60 percent in all the other states of the former Confederacy.
Despite his appeal to southern whites, Nixon parlayed a wide perception as a moderate into wins in other states, taking a solid majority in the electoral college. He was able to appear this way to most Americans, because the strategy often consisted of code words -- "states' rights," "busing" -- and others that meant nothing to most Americans, but were emotionally charged for those in the South.
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any questions? Honestly, this whole the Republicans are the party of civil rights is Sean Hannity type b.s. When Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 he stated that, because of this the Democratic Pary would lose the south for 50 years This selective 'history by omission' favors looking way way back over 100 years and Lincoln's freeing of the slaves while conveniently omitting the past 40-50 years of the history of Civil rights as it concerns political parties and affiliations. And most importantly it omits the seismic shift and reversal in the Democratic and Republican parties following the civil rights era. Hispanic support for Republicans was just 30 percent in the 2006 midterm elections, and recent polls have it around 20 percent today. Many observers believe Republicans will be lucky to get more than 10 percent of the black vote in 2008. Because they care about the racist history of the Democratic Party, of course...  What concerns people of color is the racism of the present. And it's initials happen to be G.O.P.
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