RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Comic Books Spiderman....One More Day

Yup.

I honestly can't decide which is dumber. One More Day or Revelations?

Awesome! I've recently begun fucking around with Photoshop, too. Did you see the half-assed pics I did in the Who Thread? Yeah, I'm still learning. Plus, I have no artistic skill whatsoever. Cross likes pointing that out...

Good grief...

Heh, background looks familiar......

Add Nova to that list.

I wish I could add Ghost Rider to that list

Hopefully with the new team coming on I can.

You know, just cause GR is my favorite character, I'm going to go out on a limb and say him being an Angel is dumber then Spidey selling his soul.

It's some artist rendition of a black hole (your mom is a black hole - rex). I just started having Tom Baker intro credits flashbacks when I saw it.

Thor.

The way Thor is drawn in this new series...reminds me of Ron Perlman in Beauty and the Beast.

Plus there's what happened with Loki which reminds me of the hollow, sensationalized plot devices...like with Ultron in Mighty Avengers.

Then there's JMS' excuse for not using Shakespearian rhetoric to be lazy.

Hell, I know zip about Dr. Who ('cept that they fly around in that phone booth) and I've noticed your banner. It looks like a painting. It's quite pretty.

Why, thank you.


















































Now show me your tah-tahs.

Y'know, as I scrolled down I thought, "he's gonna ask to see the tah-tahs"!



I give you an "A" for effort...

Wow, and I was about to start agreeing with most of what you say. But, to compare the joy that is the current Thor mini, to the likes of the decompressed bubblegum nonsense of Might Avengers?

I'm certainly not trying to accuse Thor of being as bad as Mighty Avengers. It just...seems to be part of a pattern with Marvel and cheap tricks. Of course, I can imagine Loki's little...mutation probaly makes more sense then Ultrons. What did you think?

...wait a second. I don't think I've read the current issue of Thor yet. Let me check it out before we go any further, and I might be agreeing with you...

Hee!

http://www.cafepress.com/omdismagic

Loki's a mutant?

SPOILERS(?)!!!

Nope. Not a mutant. Here, spoilers for Thor #5 in the link-

http://pics.livejournal.com/redorion/pic/000pb4x0

Okay, just read it (happened to pick it up from the shop this morning). Actually, I don't know what you're complaining about there. What's the difference, really? So he's now? Doesn't make him any less of the character we know. Cosmetic changes don't bother me, really. Now, if they had actually made Loki a mutant, like you said, or Spider-Man's long-lost brother, or some other cheap crap, yeah, I'd agree. But, this?

I went to Wikipedia to look this up, and while reading Loki's entry, I saw that Loki owed Spider-Man a favor.

That said, why didn't the writers have Spidey call in his favor with Loki to clear things up (either the unmasking, or Aunt May not dying, etc) instead of using Mephisto? Besides the fact that it actually acknowledges stories that came before, which Joe Quesada doesn't.

(Yeah, it still would've been a cop-out, and just as much of a thor point with fans, but it would make more sense than the illogical deal with the devil Spidey made.)

Well, like I said, my main complaint is that this reminds me of the same cheap gimmick in Mighty Avengers, although I freely admit it may very well work out better there.

Fair enough. At least it didn't take seven issues of repeating dialogue to get to it. Bendis drives me crazy...

True.

The excuse might be lazy, but I for one, am glad that the stupid shakespearian rhetoric is gone. Because on that part, JMS is right, it's fucking stupid to have a Norse mythological God speak that way!

I disagree. It's obvious that Stan Lee gave Norse and Olympean gods Shakespearian rhetoric to establish them as (for lack of a better word) higher and older beings. It gives there characters...character.

but it makes no sense for a Norse god to speak like that. And it makes them seem incapable of adapting language and grammar over time.

Maybe it doesn't make sense if you expect the comic versions to be a strict translation of Norse Mythology but that would be...I don't know, unreasonable to think Stan Lee and others shouldn't have enough creative slack to make changes here and there. I think it was intresting way of making the Asguardians intresting. And as far as them not adapting both pantheons of Gods have always been arrogant...they wouldn't feel the need to adapt to lesser beings.

I'm glad you think it's unreasonable to think that JMS doesn't have enough creative slack to make changes here and there.

I agree with getting rid of the 'King James' speech. If you look at the dialogue, Thor is still talking in a very refined manner that is above common speech and accomplishes what you want without it being corny.

I'm not saying JMS can't get rid of it. I just disagree with his reasoning is all.

Edit: AND I think it's lazy. It's a part of Thor's character. Use or don't use it but don't tell me it doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense for the reasons I already expained.

Thor eats babies.

That is all!

Would you prefer he say things like, "Yumpin' yiminy! Eye yam dee Norzze God o' T'under!!!" you racist?

Second!!!!!!

The first one was better, but both are good.

Here's the thing about "One More Day": even if we assume, for the moment, that we have to end the marriage, we have to make them forget, and we have to involve Mephisto, the story still could have worked better simply be fixing the motivation to one that made sense.

As others have noted, there's something fucked up about mystically annulling your marriage to save an elderly, frail, woman who is close to death in any event.

On the other hand, if Marvel had written the story so that Peter had to do this as the only way to save MJ, his wife, it might have at least made sense. Then, you'd have Peter doing this to save the love of his life, at the cost of that love.

It's still a screwed up way to "fix" things, but at least its in character and fits with Spidey's whole notion of power and responsibility.

I can't believe a hero as seasoned as Spidey would ever make a deal with the Devil. Not for any reason. But doing it for Aunt May is especially dumb.

If Marvel wants to be cutting edge they should have Peter and Aunt May hook up.

As noted earlier, I agree. I was just pointing out, like you, that the motivation was especially stupid and they could have at least fixed one gaping plot whole very easily by doing it for MJ instead of Aunt May.