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Red Ring of Failure

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Over 18 million Xbox 360s have sold through since the console's launch in November 2005, but just how many of those are still working? Squaretrade, a company that specializes in providing warranty support to purchasers of electronic goods from various manufacturers, claims 16% of Xbox 360s experience a hardware failure within six to ten months after a warranty purchase. Three out of every five failures were for the infamous "Red Ring of Death" general hardware failure error, a problem often linked to overheating.

The Xbox's figures compare poorly to competing consoles, which have a failure rate of around 3% -- and if anything, the Squaretrade figure underestimates the scale of the Xbox 360's reliability issues. It's a good bet that some buyers of Squaretrade warranties went straight to Microsoft after experiencing hardware issues and don't factor into the 16% number. On its company blog, Squaretrade pointed out that failure rates are "certain to go up" as the machines in their study group grow older.

Microsoft is cagey about coughing up official failure rate figures, which has lead some commentators to speculate about the actual severity of the problem. Luke Plunkett, a blogger on respected games news site Kotaku, said in a recent post that if the real failure rate wasn't in the 30-40% range, he'd "wolf down humble pie until his sides split."

Plunkett's sides are likely safe. Stories of 360 owners making their way through eight or nine consoles aren't hard to find, but to its credit, Microsoft has been working with the affected individual in at least one of those cases to lessen the impact of the constant failures.

Even so, there's a surprise lurking for consumers who return their 360s for repair. When you purchase content -- arcade games, extra tracks, etc. -- over Xbox Live, it's playable by any user on the console you used to make the transaction. If you go to a different console and sign in with your gamertag, you can download the content and play it only for as long as you're signed in. Once you move back to your main machine, it will no longer be playable. Sounds like a handy system to let you take the content you own from place to place, right?

But the trick with this system is that once a broken machine returns from its little vacation, it generally has sufficient internal changes to make it look, to Xbox Live, like a different console. So all your downloaded content -- which, if you're a heavy user, could amount to hundreds of dollars worth of purchases -- are only accessible to one gamertag, and only when the console has a live internet connection.

Getting this situation resolved can be difficult. Affected users have reported having to make repeated calls to the Xbox support line, often to no avail. Some fortunate individuals were able to eventually convince the MS reps to refund all the points they'd spent so they could repurchase all the affected content, although they had to do it using a different gamertag.


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here's the rest so you dont have to click(thanks jermy)

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How to Avoid Hardware Problems

* Air it out. Many failures are attributed to the inadequate cooling system of early-model 360s, so anything you can do to give it an easier time will pay off. Make sure you put the console in a place with cool, steady airflow.
* Move it and lose it. Don't change the orientation of the console when it's running. The DVD drive's running gear isn't as well secured as it could be, so knocking over a vertically-standing console can cause the machinery to collide with the disc surface. Characteristic circular scratches are the result and are generally fatal for the game.
* Think new. Thanks to a well-publicized cooling system redesign, newer machines are less likely to suffer problems. Any console bought in the last six months or so should have much better chances of surviving.

Red Ring of Death: What to do

Is it a "real" red ring of death? Somewhat confusingly, the true red ring error only has three of the four quarters of the ring illuminated. If all four are lit up, you have a much simpler problem: your A/V cable is loose!

Enterprising 360 owners have discovered a homebrewed way to fix the problem, although it only works for a short period of time. It involves turning on your console, wrapping it tightly in a towel, and leaving it on for 20-25 minutes. This might void your warranty from Microsoft, so consider yourself warned.

If all else fails, hit up the Xbox web site to request a warranty repair. They'll send you a cardboard "coffin" for you to return your console and send back a fixed machine in a few weeks. The official warranty was extended to three years for this specific problem, so even launch-day 360s are technically still covered.

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Well done Microsoft....ya really got the jump on Nintendo and Sony there!
A friend of mine bought a 360 and a PS3 within a similar time scale.
He uses the PS3 more, yet this has never gone wrong.
The 360 has had to be fixed/replaced twice!
He has pretty much given up on using it these days!

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microsoft has proven it should stick to software. as a gaming platform they suck, as a search engine they suck.

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as a giant dinosaur they suck!

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A coworker and myself were speculating the fates of the PS3 and Microsoft in the gaming industry. He thinks Apple would be a better contender. I think the 360's time is numbered, especially with the blu ray victory Sony has.

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 Originally Posted By: Jeremy
He thinks Apple would be a better contender.


So you work with a bunch of tards like you?


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well, at least he works...

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I have a job.


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blowing old men for bus fare does not constitute a "job"

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Oh, Microsoft.......


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From PC World: 360 Price drop

  • A day after Microsoft dropped the price of the Xbox 360 in Europe, effectively making it the cheapest modern console on the continent (watch out Wii), questions loom if the company will follow suit on its home turf in America.

    dBTechno Tuesday says that Microsoft is "getting ready" to slash the price of the Xbox 360 here in the U.S., citing undocumented "reports" (i.e., most likely rumors).

    Whatever the veracity of said "reports," one things for sure -- Microsoft will drop the price of the Xbox 360 for a second time in North America as per usual in the life of an aging video game console. The question is, when?

    Oft quoted analyst Michael Pachter expects that to happen before the holidays, if not sooner, given mild sales of the Xbox 360 when compared to a surging PlayStation 3, thanks to Blu-ray's recent victory over HD DVD. Nintendo, for its part, still leads them both in terms popularity, so now is a welcome time as any for Microsoft to spike interest with a more attractive price.

    The Xbox 360 saw its first American price drop two years after its release in October of 2007; from $399 to $349 for the flagship Pro version and from $299 to $279 for the restricted Core (now Arcade) version without hard drive.

    The duration of the original MSRP was unprecedented at the time, as console makers (including Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft) historically lower prices at least after the first year of availability.

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gskibum content User 0 posts Tue May 20 2008 10:33 PM Reading a post
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Thread: The fate of the X-Box 360?

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you know what's funny... i did not have these kind of problems with the original xbox.


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Thats really funny, whomod.


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best elvis song ever!

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
best elvis song ever!


that's from denis leary asshole.


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i've never been there!

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And he stole it from Elvis. Now shut the hell up and go pull a Ledger.


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All these rock stars,man. Every single God damned one of them. Right after Jon Lenin died, we should've gotten the Partridge Family bus and driven around. Elvis Presley should have been so you can remember Elvis in a nice way. Wouldn't it be nice to remember Elvis with a big head? Maybe that gold suit. Wouldn't that be nice? Because how do you remember Elvis? You know how you remember Elvis.Creepy! Oh man I should've saved that! I coulda made some money off of that! Damn man! A ding dang do!"

That's why Jesus died when he did. Oh yeah. Because if he lived to be 40, he woulda ended up like Elvis, come on! Oh yeah, he had that big enterauge. Twelve guys willing to do whatever he wanted to do. He was famous already at that point. "Damn, I'm the son of God.Where's Mary Magdeline, Come on now!

I'm going to hell for that bit. And don't try to get out of it, "We didn't laugh. "Shut up! Get on the bus with You're going right to hell!" And you know what hell is folks. It's Andy Gibb, And you have to wear orange plaid bell bottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. "How you guys doing?"

I was reading an interview with Keith Richards in a magazine. Keith Richards! Says that kids do drugs! Keith, We have to wait 'till you die and smoke pot and fuck the kettle.


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 Originally Posted By: Black Machismo
All these rock stars should've been killed, man. Every single God damned one of them. Right after Jon Lenin died, we should've gotten the Partridge Family bus and driven around and killed them all one by one, you know? Elvis Presley should have been shot in the head back in 1957. Somebody should've walked up behind Elvis in '57 with a 44 magnum, put the barrel of the gun right up to his brain stem and just pulled the trigger, so you can remember Elvis in a nice way. Wouldn't it be nice to remember Elvis thin, with a big head of hair? Maybe that gold lame gold lame gold lame suit. Wouldn't that be nice? Because how do you remember Elvis? You know how you remember Elvis. He was found in the toilet with his pants around his ankles and his big fat hairy sweaty king of rock and roll ass exposed to the world and his final piece of kingly evidence floating in the toilet behind him! Creepy! One of his aids had to walk in and go, "Damn, Elvis is dead. I'd better flush the toilet. Oh man I should've saved that! I coulda made some money off of that! Damn man! A ding dang do!"

That's why I'm glad Jesus died when he did. Oh yeah. Because if he lived to be 40, he woulda ended up like Elvis, come on! Oh yeah, he had that big enterauge. Twelve guys willing to do whatever he wanted to do. He was famous already at that point. If he lived to be 40, he'd be walking around Jerusalem with a big fat beer gut and black side burns going, "Damn, I'm the son of God. Give me a cheese burger and french fries right now. Where's Mary Magdeline, I want a blow job now. Come on now! Fuck you, or I'll turn you into a leper. Give me a cheese burger now, God dammit. Love me tender, love me true, empty my colostamy bag! Oh I think I shit my pants on that last... Change my diaper now!"

I'm going to hell for that bit. And you're all coming with me! And don't try to get out of it, "We didn't laugh at that bit, Jesus, please!" "Shut up! Get on the bus with Leary and Scorsese. You're going right to fucking hell!" And you know what hell is folks. It's Andy Gibb, singing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons. And you have to wear orange plaid bell bottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. "How you guys doing? This is gonna suck!"

I was reading an interview with Keith Richards in a magazine and in the interview Keith Richards intimated that kids should not do drugs. Keith Richards! Says that kids should not do drugs! Keith, we can't do any more drugs because you already fucking did them all, alright! There's none left! We have to wait 'till you die and smoke your ashes! Jesus Christ! Talk about the pot and the fuckin' kettle.




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 Originally Posted By: Irwin Schwab
microsoft has proven it should stick to software. as a gaming platform they suck, as a search engine they suck.


You should stick to be wrong on the political forum.



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\:lol\: crying in the tech forum again? drink some beer, it might take away the pain!


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