Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
where did you live that you think Douglas invented the 3 way dance,


I never said he invented it, I said he helped introduce it, which he did.


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it was done for years, heck i saw a roddy piper, paul orndorf, jimmy snuka 3 way dance at a WWF house show when Douglas was most likely in diapers.


oh? considering this is the first time I've ever seen or heard anything about this in my twenty years of being a wrestling fan I'd like to know more about that.


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popularized the work shoot promo? do you know heyman was the brain child for that?


yes, I know it was his brainchild, as I also know that Douglas was his mouthpiece for the formative years of ECW.

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that mick foley and steve austin were more succesful in ECW with the work shoot than douglas?


really? so they were ECW World Champions? Foley's promos were indeed successful and are considered not only highlights of ECW, but also instrumental in his later career. but Austin was only there for a few months and barely wrestled. it did help him prepare for his "Stone Cold" run, but he wasn't around long enough to be "more successful in ECW".

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The whole gimmick of the work shoot is getting yourself over when talent alone wont get you there, thats why the work shoot is already passe. No one does it anymore, how is it a revolution if it's already dead?


the revolution may have died, but that doesn't mean it never happened.

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nothing douglas did transformed the industry, you have to seperate your love for ECW from the fact that a jobber was used well at it's inception.


I disagree. Douglas' character DID play a large role in ECW, which brought about transformation in the wrestling industry.


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the fact is heyman is a genius at using one or two dimensional wrestlers and making them look like a star. Taz is a perfect example, looked like a monster in ECW, but put him in the WWE and even though they tried to push him, the fact that he was slow, and tiny could not be overcome,


it couldn't be overcome by Mcmahon, because he only understands one formula. seems to me that Heyman overcame it pretty well.


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Martel has wrestled in all the major promotions, wrestled at a higher rate in his post prime days than Douglas in his prime. He held one of the most prestigious belts ever the AWA World Title, and the WWF tag titles twice when they meant something.

Douglas held one of the biggest Indy titles in the world,t he ECW world title, not in the same league as Martel.


sorry, but I don't rate Vern Gagne's vanity title as highly as some people do. he was the Jeff Jarrett of his day. you have to separate your love for The Model from the fact that he doesn't have any long lasting impact on the industry as a whole.