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The Growing Aversion to Abortion- The news that the abortion rate has fallen to its lowest level in 30 years elicits various explanations, from increased use of contraceptives to lack of access to abortion clinics. But maybe the chief reason is that the great majority of Americans, even many who see themselves as pro-choice, are deeply uncomfortable with it.
In 1992, a Gallup/Newsweek poll found 34 percent of Americans thought abortion "should be legal under any circumstances," with 13 percent saying it should always be illegal. Last year, only 26 percent said it should always be allowed, with 18 percent saying it should never be permitted.
Sentiments are even more negative among the group that might place the highest value on being able to escape an unwanted pregnancy: young people. In 2003, Gallup found, one of every three kids from age 13 to 17 said abortion should be illegal in all circumstances. More revealing yet is that 72 percent said abortion is "morally wrong."
By now, pro-life groups know that outlawing most abortions is not a plausible aspiration. So they have adopted a two-pronged strategy. The first is to regulate it more closely -- with parental notification laws, informed consent requirements and a ban on partial-birth abortion. The second is to educate Americans with an eye toward changing "hearts and minds." In both, they have had considerable success.
Even those who insist Americans are solidly in favor of legal abortion implicitly acknowledge the widespread distaste. That's why the Democratic Party's 2004 platform omitted any mention of the issue, and why politicians who support abortion rights cloak them in euphemisms like "the right to choose."
But some abortion rights supporters admit reservations. It was a landmark moment in 1995 when the pro-choice author Naomi Wolf, writing in The New Republic magazine, declared that "the death of a fetus is a real death." She went on: "By refusing to look at abortion within a moral framework, we lose the millions of Americans who want to support abortion as a legal right but still need to condemn it as a moral iniquity."
The report on abortion rates from the Guttmacher Institute suggests that the evolution of attitudes has transformed behavior. Since 1990, the number of abortions has dropped from 1.61 million to 1.21 million. The abortion rate among women of childbearing age has declined by 29 percent.
Those changes could be the result of other factors, such as more use of contraception: If fewer women get pregnant, fewer will resort to abortion. But the shift is equally marked among women who do get pregnant. In 1990, 30.4 percent of pregnancies ended in abortion. Last year, the figure was 22.4 percent.
Pro-choice groups say women are having fewer abortions only because abortion clinics are growing scarcer. But abortion clinics may be growing scarcer because of a decline in demand for their services and a public opinion climate that has gotten more inhospitable.
This growing aversion to abortion may be traced to better information. When the Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, most people had little understanding of fetal development. But the proliferation of ultrasound images from the womb, combined with the dissemination of facts by pro-life groups, has lifted the veil.
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Outrage Over 'Self-Abortion Art'. Yale student says she artificially inseminated herself and then took herbal drugs to induce miscarriages for art project: - Art major Aliza Shvarts' project has attracted reactions of disgust and outrage since the Yale Daily News broke the story of her upcoming exhibit on Thursday.
Shvarts said the goal of the project is to spark debate and discussion about the connection between art and the human body.
Shvarts told the school paper that her sperm donors, whom she declined to identify, were not paid for their participation, but added that she did require them to be screened for STDs.
The drugs she took to induce contractions and miscarriages were legal and herbal in nature, according to Shvarts, who didn't specify what they were. The art major insisted that she wasn't concerned about the effects of her research on her own body.
Shvarts wouldn't say how many times she was artificially inseminated and actually got pregnant for the project — which she described to the Yale paper as a huge cube hanging from the ceiling and swathed in plastic sheeting smeared with her blood from the reported miscarriages. The existence and number of pregnancies Shvarts weren't independently confirmed.
Videos taken of what the college student says were self-induced abortions in her bathtub will be projected both on the cube's sides and on the gallery walls.
 It seems to me that this sort of thing is more likely than not to make people want to regulate abortion.
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That's all sorts of fucked up. I'm not against abortion, but... gah-DAMN, woman!
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Hey. Different strokes for different folks.
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well maybe she'll sterilize herself so there won't be any little Aliza Schvarts in this world.
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After this stunt, her uterus has probably collapsed.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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we can only hope!
Then when she's almost forty and nobody wants to skeevy ass she can sue Yale for a bajillion dollars for allowing her to do this!
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Yale Explains 'Abortion Art' Claim: Officials call student's claim she inseminated herself then performed abortions, induced miscarriages 'creative fiction'
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Wise words on the Yale "art" nonsense: - The invocation of “art” doesn’t change that one whit. Indeed, as a society, we suffer today from a peculiar form of moral anesthesia: an anesthesia based on the delusion that by calling something “art” we thereby purchase for it a blanket exemption from moral criticism—as if being art automatically rendered all moral considerations beside the point.
I've touched on this idea once or twice before. Government censorship is typically wrong. However, our society-or at least certain segments of it-has a tendency to think that calling bad behavior "art" or saying stupid things in the guise of "art" protects that bad behavior/stupidity under the First Amendment from any sort of criticism. That isn't the case. The First Amendment gives people the right to say and, in some instances, do stupid things. But it also gives the rest of us the right to call them on that stupidity.
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it's like that "Bodies" exhibit that is traveling the country. they take dead Chinese people and charge $20 and put them on display and call it science.
those people had moms, dads, brothers, sisters ect but they are paraded like they are a sideshow, and it passes because it's at a museum...
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I thought we weren't supposed to call people stupid because it hurts their feelings. cookie and pat on the back, right? make them feel good about being fuck-heads.
right?
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it's like that "Bodies" exhibit that is traveling the country. they take dead Chinese people and charge $20 and put them on display and call it science.
those people had moms, dads, brothers, sisters ect but they are paraded like they are a sideshow, and it passes because it's at a museum... It's worse than that. There's a growing body of evidence that the "dead Chinese people" were Chinese political prisoners, who were executed by the Chinese government and then sold to the exhibitors.
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National Review: - What manner of mentor approved Aliza Shvarts's sickening, videotaped, senior "art" project consisting of bathtub bleeding (from actual or simulated abortions, whichever the case may be) and a Vaseline-plus-blood display?
Here are insights about Shvarts's adviser, Pia Lindman, who, apparently unwilling to defend her own sick judgment, has refrained from public comment and now removed Schwarts's video from her (Lindman's) performance "art" website.
Lindman's own "art" has focused on self-mutilation and made use of S&M paraphernalia, and Schwarts seems to have well imbibed her teacher's "wisdom."
Faculty hiring and student "guidance" don't come any sicker than this.
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i bet her grandma was a white racist....
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Yale to 'Abortion Artist': Confess. University threatens to pull art project unless student admits she lied about self-inducing miscarriages to create it. Let's say she did lie. Isn't that an admission that she falsified her thesis? In which case should she receive a failing grade for that too? I posted some information about her freakshow faculty advisor yesterday. Maybe the University should be looking at disciplining the professor too. After all, by approving this, the advisor either sanctioned fraud or sanctioned a physically dangerous activity involving potential damage to the student's health and/or the release of a known pathogen (human blood) into the student exhibit space.
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Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Abortion on Ultrasound: - The former director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in southeast Texas says she had a "change of heart" after watching an abortion last month — and she quit her job and joined a pro-life group in praying outside the facility.
Abby Johnson, 29, used to escort women from their cars to the clinic in the eight years she volunteered and worked for Planned Parenthood in Bryan, Texas. But she says she knew it was time to leave after she watched a fetus "crumple" as it was vacuumed out of a patient's uterus in September.
'When I was working at Planned Parenthood I was extremely pro-choice," Johnson told FoxNews.com. But after seeing the internal workings of the procedure for the first time on an ultrasound monitor, "I would say there was a definite conversion in my heart ... a spiritual conversion."
Johnson said she became disillusioned with her job after her bosses pressured her for months to increase profits by performing more and more abortions, which cost patients between $505 and $695.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100503/ap_on_re_us/us_okla_abortion_law_hearing Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson has agreed to a court order requested by abortion providers to temporarily block enforcement of a new state law, which requires women to get an ultrasound and hear a detailed description of the fetus.
The agreement was announced Monday, before a scheduled hearing in Oklahoma County District Court on the request for a temporary restraining order by the Center for Reproductive Rights. District Judge Noma Gurich said attorneys for both sides told her they would accept the order.
Gurich says she will now schedule a hearing for sometime in July on a request for a temporary injunction against the law. An injunction would extend the restraining order. She said she expected to sign the temporary restraining order later Monday.
Tony Lauinger, state chairman of the group Oklahomans for Life and vice president of the National Right to Life Committee, expressed disappointment.
"We're sorry to see implementation of the law delayed" Lauinger said. "This has been a long process and apparently it will be a little longer."
Lauinger said he believes the law will eventually be upheld.
The abortion law went into effect last week after the state House and Senate overrode Gov. Brad Henry's veto of the bill.
The person who performs the ultrasound must describe the dimensions of the fetus, whether arms, legs and internal organs are visible and whether the physician can detect cardiac activity. He or she must also turn a screen depicting the images toward the woman so she can see them.
A lawsuit was filed by the New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights on behalf of two Oklahoma abortion providers, Nova Health Systems, operator of Reproductive Services of Tulsa, and Dr. Larry Burns, who the group said provides abortions in Norman.
The Center for Reproductive rights has said the law is among the nation's strictest measures against abortion. It said the ultrasound requirement intrudes upon a patient's privacy and forces a woman to hear information that may not be relevant to her medical care. The group also believes it could interfere with the doctor-patient relationship by compelling physicians to deliver unwanted speech.
Lauinger said the measure is an attempt to save the lives of unborn children and prevent psychological trauma to pregnant woman.
Officials at Reproductive Services of Tulsa have said the requirements of the law had drawn emotional responses from patients. They said some patients have left the room where ultrasounds procedures are performed in tears because of what they had to hear.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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I guess 'Pro-Choice' doesn't equate to 'Informed Decision'.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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