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Dear Citizens of athanon,

I’m sure that many of you are wondering what is going on. This is natural. In precise language, the athanon boards have been closed indefinitely for a period of reevaluation. This means, simply put, that I’ve locked the place down until I figure out what I want to do with it.

Will they be reopened? Possibly. I really can’t say at this moment. I figure that I’ll open that can of worms when I get to it. And I mean can of worms.

You’re wondering why the boards are closed. Precise language: A number of events both public and private culminated in my stating that a single infraction along a set guideline would result in the closure of the boards. That infraction took place. The boards were closed.

Not so precise language: About three or four months ago, I stepped down as a Keeper. I had reached the point where I either stepped away from the boards entirely or I closed them down. Far too many games were going on for my liking. I offered to give them to someone who had put money and sweat into them and the person declined. I established that I could no longer run the place without losing my cool and I reiterated that Danny was in charge, promoted Dark Typhoid Dave to the position of Keeper, and I left.

I spent as much time as I could with my girlfriend or playing Everquest. I kept tabs on the boards. I helped out with the Herald. I’d post from time to time. I avoided the place as much as I could.

More reindeer games ensued. Most of which I disliked, some of which got me so angry that I started yelling at some of the people involved either by e-mail or on the phone. As a matter of fact, most of my anger and resentment stems from the actions of friends who manipulated things to be as much in their own best interests as possible. Part of it is directed at me for my inability to tell people that I care about when they are fucking up or calling them on a really bad decision. Petty squabbling went on behind the scenes. Danny kept in control as much as he could, however, life got in the way.

Hatter stepped down as Police Commissioner and Keeper. Ouschlander stepped up to the plate. Due to personal problems, Danny was not able to act as mayor. Theoretically speaking, this put me back in the hot seat I pretty much left things up to ouschlander—him being my roommate and best friend, I knew that I could trust him.

The Comic-Con in San Diego arrived and the Mad Hatter had to change real life plans when statements made by RONIN made him worry about the safety of both himself and his girlfriend. This was brought to both mine and ouschlander’s attention. Ouschlander made the decision, which I backed, to ban RONIN from athanon. In my mind, RONIN was and for me still is an unknown. He could be the biggest teddy bear on the block. He could be a raving lunatic. Let’s look at some facts:

1. Hatter’s picture has been published in the yearbook. As such, he’s easily recognizable. RONIN, on the other hand, had not been seen by anyone other than Cassie at that time. As it stands, only a couple of people saw him in San Diego.
2. RONIN has a tendency to let his temper get the best of him. Hatter has a tendency to push people’s buttons. Even if RONIN hadn’t gone with the intention of fighting with Hatter, the possibility still remained that violence could occur.

Regardless, arguing is one thing. Making comments that put a person in a position to have to change his plans in regards to the safety of himself and his loved ones, is another thing entirely. RONIN justified the banning when he stole jack trades’ ID, changing the password after jack trusted him it.

I do owe RONIN one token of thanks for the whole thing—it got me out of going to the San Diego Zoo.

In the meantime, Franta was on vacation. One of his stops was Las Vegas, however, due to my plans with San Diego, I wasn’t in town the day that Franta was. Still, someone thought it would be funny to start the “Franta’s been banned!” rumor with RONIN’s ban being mentioned in the Town Crier. This got the Nature Boyz stirred up, so that when the real ban came, it was like L.A. after a trial.

Behind the scenes even MORE stupid human tricks were taking place. Part of this was based on the situation that led to the closing of the boards—The Angle in the Vault Affair.

Oakley told these guys to stop. Moorg told these guys to stop. Ouschlander told these guys to stop. Mkisofs e-mailed one of these guys to stop. Razorwitt e-mailed another of these guys to stop. That seems pretty clear to me. “Don’t post anything about Kurt Angle in the Vault or you will be banned.” It’s pretty simple. Pretty damned simple, really.

Franta posted about Kurt Angle in the Vault. As a result, he was banned. It is our habit to try to keep the details of a banning between us and the person banned. Everyone else feels that it is important that they know why the person was banned, perhaps so that they could run it through their personal radar and determine whether or not it was fair. Personally, I don’t think that it’s anyone’s business but the person involved unless that person wants to involve others.

So a number of people decided to show their support of Franta. Some did so in the Commissioner’s Office. Others did so in the Vault by posting threads about Kurt Angle. They got banned. Year of the Bastard came forth with a well written, well thought out request to know why. Ouschlander asked me to get involved, so I did. I stated in my response that I had grown tired with all of the games—and I mean ALL of the games. I stated that if one more incident occurred, I would shut the boards down.

I’d like to congratulate Loch Hexen for her winning entry of the new thread “Who is Kurt Angle?” located in the Vault of Tomorrow. Big round of applause for showing your support for the banned by posting under an alt-ID—you’ve really made the boys back at the home office proud.

Look, people, this isn’t Faber College, none of the Keepers are Dean Wormer, and you guys aren’t Otter and the rest of Delta House. This isn’t a fascist police state. We are not humorless automatons. We are, for the most part, a number of people with various degrees of maturity with the purpose of ensuring that the boards ran properly and that most people were having a good time. Just posters like you, simply in a position of ‘power’ on an Internet message board.

I haven’t necessarily agreed with a number of decisions that were made by the administration of athanon, however, when that’s happened, due to my own rules of outward solidarity, I’ve sucked it up and watched people get treated like shit, usually with my name being waved around. I’ve had numerous arguments with people that have left me feeling physically ill (you know things are really bothering you emotionally when you’re internalizing them and they make you physically sick). We are capable—quite capable—of making bad decisions. I’ve been making bad decisions about this place since October of ’99. I’ve watched the others do the same.

“It’s for the good of the boards.” If I never hear those words again, it will be too soon.

I’m like a powder keg right now. Anger and frustration are so built up over this and other things going on in my life that the wrong thing could make me explode in someone’s face. I didn’t shut the boards down because of the fact that several people were being loud and obnoxious and acting at a level of maturity just under that of my thirteen year old nephews. I shut them down because I no longer desire to put up with the stress.

I was asked to explain the ‘reevaluation period.’ Simply put, I’m trying to determine whether or not the value of re-opening the boards exceeds the expense. The value is from the people like Bibbo, Razorwitt and jack trades and hundreds of others who post there and have fun, but don’t break the one rule I have. The expense is the emotional drain that comes from, to put it simply, trying to regulate adults consistently acting like children. That emotional drain is a high price because it’s one that affects you physically and mentally as well.

So I’m thinking about it. It’s going to take a while, so you may want to hit some of the other places out there. I’ve got a life to get in order.

And for those of you who were taken completely unaware by this turn of events, I want to say that I truly apologize. Unfortunately, this has consistently been the way of things at athanon. Any major shakeups have been from a clash between the Keepers and an individual or a relatively small group. I hope that should we open our doors again in the future that you will join us again, or should we never reopen that you are not discomfited too much.

Keep an eye on this space for further information.

Martin ‘Mobius Infinity’ Hackett

was it 3 times?

(that's 0, Halo)

And remember: Rob is gay!

he's also black!

hurm...

this can't be right...

for the past few days, our standard, loving family of rkmbs regulars has been joined by another group. but just who is this other group appearing so frequently? is it "the insurgency"? or is it .... the BUSH ADMINISTRATION??!!1!!

now, i know what you're thinkin. i'm just a crazy lad, making with the funny. i do that a lot, successfully or otherwise -- often otherwise. however, though the premise sounds silly, lets review a few of the insurgents' actions witnessed in the past week, to better determine the true identity. insurgents, i know that you're too busy in your real life reading posts here to read this post here, but do your best to skim! please take note of the comparative questions posed and their respective answers:


has the insurgency preemptively attacked users before they do anything?

• check. a number of posters were invited to your forum, then banned instantly before doing anything. how many times did mxy get to post before being banned? 3? 9? no, 0! whats more, individual rkmbs posters like llance were attacked without ever knowing a single thing about the insurgency, or any of their members.

has the insurgency hypocritically lumped together "the enemy" as a collective "evil axis group"?

• check. "hive mentality", "mob mentality", "nazis", "republicans", "typical right wing americans", "bush lovers" ... all blanket terms used to describe every rkmbs poster. ...despite the majority of whom: consistently disagrees with one another, dislikes dubya, is perhaps not even from the united states, etc, etc. unfortunately, none of these blaring, contradictory facts seem proof-enough to avoid enemy status.

has the insurgency tried to squash differentiating opinions by pre-labeling them terrible?

• check. any points that oppose what the insurgency full-heartedly supports is instantly branded either a lie or wrong. in some cases, the insurgent member goes so far as to demand "proof" of sorts, but subsequently denies the proof as sorcery upon its retrieval. in many occasions particularly where the use of logic is brought to the discussion, the insurgency is quick to dismiss the commentary as lies, forgeries, hacking, a trap, or simply leaving the conversation all together.

has the insurgency created stories to instantly believe as truth and propagandize for justifying purposes?

• check. it has been popular belief amongst the insurgency that prometheus has used his matrix-like powers to hack their message boards mainframe. a number of users, including pro, have alluded to the silliness of these claims, particularly the fact that prometheus has previously asked me how to link to thumbnails and upload a photo. but all of this falls upon deaf ears.

has the insurgency gone so far that they've managed to splinter, and lose support amongst their own?

• check. there been a number of "hey, its not us"-type public posts and PMs sent from former insurgent members, backing away or toning down from their former pack, in disgust. several approached gun-for-hire spies like the esteemed chris oakley rejected their demands. several of their own have even offered to work as moles in a insurgent rebellion.

has the insurgency disregarded an extraordinarily low approval rating?

• check. despite seeing their raid fail for a number of reasons, the largest two being general ineffectiveness and the rkmbs apathy towards everything, they've pressed on. often times, sinking lower and lower away from the "high grounds", resulting in petty name calling, slurs, and alts relating to existing posters or their family members. this has resulted in an even more ineffectual "raid."

has the insurgency declared moral superiority despite never showing such? check.

• as with the sinking approval rating, techniques and commentaries from the insurgency have hit deplorable depths. their many claims as offenses to them have later simply been used by them in weak retaliatory attempts. repetitive image posting. name-calling. use of offensive terms. alt IDs. discussion of family members. even dear zap has flooded un-related forums, seemingly with the sole intention of spreading the word of him being "pwned"

has the insurgency stomped upon their own beliefs and constitution, as it were, by breaking their own policies?

• much like their lowering of morals, there are a number of directions in which the insurgency has conducted themselves that they never formerly would have. whether its the discussion or info-hunting on a poster's family member, or publicly threatening to have another message board hacked -- through an "outside source", of course. apparently, these actions are some form of anemic "attack", but only ends up destroying their former "integrity."

now, please understand, this is just a handful of examples that we've been privy to, i'm sure there are more. were the bush administration famous for any possible combination of wanking and/or crying, the similarities between you and them would seem endless! then again, this is an observation only over the course of but a few days. it is staggering to think what the insurgency would lower to within a 4-year term -- even the bush administration had a few months go by before being universally frowned upon.

and, yes, i know this will anger some and cause retorts of "oh, wull, hey, youse do'd it too'd!!1!!!" or some such verbal prose. maybe a "worse than murderies!" or something. then, maybe, there'll be a whole huge, sprawling response (not nearly as clever or as original as this one of course) featuring a quote-for-quote representation of how "the rkmb's did stuff firsts" or "worsers." heck, i will even forgo the formalities and give you the benefit of the doubt that this response will happen, moments after i click submit. on both forums! however, i wonder, such an act would gain you ... what? the truth is, nothing. well, nothing... other than the instant recognition that you've hypocritically become everything you loathe and swore to never be as a collection of individuals on the intrawebs.

"mission accomplished"

laughy face graemlin. laughy face graemlin. laughy face graemlin.

this, my friends, is why we win. always.

now, i make no claim of being nice or kind or smart or tall, but i do strive for community. you're each welcome to continue this "raid", as i assume most of this board hopes you do, because it is funny, and we admire a good tumble. or you can just post here and have fun! continue to hate whom you want, continue to be hated by those that want. learn to have fun with others. i know a handful of you are already clearly committed to large addictive doses of time here. either way, you have the freedom to do as you please*, a freedom unique to but a few message forums, as you'll note in the comparison of our two boards ...and, clearly, many of you have, and already stick around here longer.

in conclusion, this land is my land, but, as the song goes, this land is your land. in some verses, i've got a shotgun, and you ain't got one. ... but that is neither here nor there. the statement here (or there) is that you've all already been baptized under fire at the rkmbs, and have found that you either can or can't hang. i'll be the first (or best!) to request that you enjoy your stay, and continue to play amongst the children in the field. enjoy the freedoms of open discussion and company of others who feel the same.

you do whatcha wanna do, and you're welcome to it. my google adsense is through the roof because of you, so this is the least i can offer (perhaps i am the "big business oil company" friend to your corrupt administration?)

so shut the fuck up,
your gob

I feel like Saddam Hussein, and not just because I hate America!