Originally Posted By: The Dread Pirate Westley
You've still yet to address the point that HMOs and other health insurance schemes have been prosecuted for defrauding their members when they require actual service.


Fraud is wrong and should be prosecuted, either civilly or criminally, depending on the nature of the fraud and the law broken.

However, just because certain individuals or companies might break a law it doesn't follow that we should nationalize an industry or take away other peoples' right to practice their trade honestly, their right to go the doctor of their choice or any of the other deterimental results that would naturally flow (and, in the case of Canada often did flow) from socialized medicine.

Indeed, if the realization that certain businesses in an industry break the law were to serve as the basis for conscripting that entire industry, we might as well nationalize every business in the United States.