I can't speak for ROY, bsams, Franta or anybody else, and I won't try. I can tell you what my problem is with some of the people over manor is. When bsams, ROY, Franta, Herokiller and a couple other of us started this all up at OPPT a year or so back, it was just a fun place to hang out and bullshit. No egos, no whining, just a bunch of guys hanging out and having a good time. It was fun. You probably would have enjoyed it a lot.

After a while, especially after things got moved over to the manor, it started to lose it's appeal. ROY left, bsams got bored, I got the "been there, done that" syndrome and just started to drift away. Every once in a while I'd check back in to see what was goin' on and I couldn't believe my eyes. All I saw was the same repetative threads over and over again and people I'd never even heard of complaining because they felt that they were more important than somebody else. Most of those guys over there don't get it. It was never about any of that. If anything, it was the antithesis of all that crap. There was never a real "ranking system". Nobody cared if they had less posts or alternate ID's, or who had been around longer. It was all for fun. There's nothing fun over there anymore. It's the same tired posts and schemes as before. How many threads are floating around over there where people are bragging about going to some board and insulting people? Wow! That reminds me of the bathroom in Junior High!

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that it just doesn't have the same feel over there anymore. I know not everything that we used to do back then was necessarily adult or mature, but at least at the time, it seemed fresh, now it just feels...stale...

I do miss the Flash's Cosmic Treadmill though...