Originally Posted By: the G-man
Unless Webster's has really hit rock bottom, there's no official definition of "fanwank." But at least one source indicates that (ironically, in the context of "Dr. Who," of all things) "fanwank" includes "any piece of work which reuses old monsters or characters purely in an attempt to stir feelings in the groins of sad anal fanboys."

I think bringing back the SpiderBuggy arguably fits that definition.


How can you make that assumption without having read how it's used? Or why?

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Millar himself is on record as saying "Old Man Logan" is in continuity:
  • The storyline fits very neatly into Marvel continuity and crosses over directly with my FANTASTIC FOUR run, and even subtly with [my other upcoming project] 1985. This is why we did this in the regular WOLVERINE title as apposed to a special mini-series.


Okay, fair enough. I concede that point since I did not know that little bit. Still, unless they absolutely make that the one, true future of the Marvel U, then it makes no sense, now does it?

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No, Pro. I was just discussing something about the state of modern comics. Do I agree with your position here? Obviously not. But I've tried to explain myself without unduly attacking you. I just wish you could do the same thing.


Oh please man. Please. Try that innocent line on someone who doesn't talk with you all the time. They might buy the act. But, be honest with me. I, at least, deserve that much. You're saying it's Fanwank that the Spider-Buggy appears. I'm saying it's not at all. I've read the story. You haven't. Thus, until you read the story (and remain with the same opinion, I'm certain) I can't accept this whole "discussion" as anything but you wanting to debate (over nothing, mind you).

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At the same time, however, I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that the man never puts any fanwank into his stuff.


And I have never stated that he doesn't. I'm not defending Millar based on some wide-eyed love of the man. I was simply pointing out the facts. Fact is, the use of the Spider-Buggy isn't fanwank. Fact is, it's certainly not fanwank as defined by Geoff John's unholy pen. That's all I'm saying.

Meanwhile, I think the story could be a lot of fun and I was wanting to express my rare love of a Wolverine story in this thread...