Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
maybe if i thought the comments made by wright were out of line or wrong i would care. but wright dressed up racial tensions with some colorful speech. the fact is how he feels is not so uncommon. and it's not about hatred of white people like the KKK is, it's about a feeling of being the victim and the anger that is all too human that comes with being a victim. what i care about here is that obama addressed the issue in a pretty fair manner, he admitted these issues are real and should be gotten passed.



have you seen KKK speeches on tv? they feel they are victimized as well. being a victim is self brought on, if you let people victimize you, you will be victimized, it isnt solved by expressing hatred for people who did nothing to you. the fact that Obama took his children to hear that every Sunday os very telling of him.

well, the kkk was formed because they felt "victimized" that black people were no longer slaves. and they organized to fight for segregation.
black people were slaves, experimented on, kept down in education and jobs. now things are obviously much improved today, but people have memories. wright grew up before civil rights so there is more of a sense of anger than someone like obama would have.



your ignorance of history, could be why you hold the views you do.

what ignorance of history? this is what really gets me about internet message boards. people say "you're wrong" or "you're ignorance of history" without explaining why they think the person is wrong, without presenting counter points.
If you watch the film Birth of a Nation, which the Hitstory channel aired one night about 6 years ago, you see the victim justification being used. that was about 100 years ago. long before bush, obama, or google.

But the fact, and the point of this, is that black people have been victimized for a long time. Whites haven't, not really. Whatever angry words Wright used, he didn't advocated terrorism or racial violence (at lease from what i read). He talked about very real issues. Very complex issues. And he used the language that was most effective with his audience, just like any other public speaker.
You can't just tell an entire group of people that slavery is over so they need to get over it, that the Tuskegee experiments were 50 years ago and they need to get over the government experimenting on blacks, that segregation is gone 40 years and they should just get over it. People remember things, it stays a part of their cultural identity in the same way that Irish people still bitch about St. Patrick and the English and Guinness (or whatever a typical Irish person does).
I think for a lot of lower income blacks especially it's harder to see the racial equality mentioned in one of wondy's "get over it" threads.



it is racist to blame all whites for the actions of other whites. people are directly responsible for their actions. if it was John Blank that discriminated against a black man then it is John Blank that is to blame, not white people. The fact that John Blank was white doesnt not indict the entire white race. People like Wright would like to indict the entire white race and that is racist. As racist as the KKK.

Whether you want to believe it or not, there were ignorant people that when they had a loved one raped or killed(or framed) by a black man believed all the bullshit that black people wanted to rape, kill, or steal. They were wrong to believe this way, but the people who preached this garbage that it was the black man doing this and not the individual man were worse, they took advantage of the ignorant and developed them into racists as well. Same with Wright, he is a smart man, he has to know it wasn't the withe man, but some men who were white who used racism for their evil purposes. Obama is smart enough to know better as well. But he raises his children in that bigoted church that keeps perpetuating the same circle of it's the whites, it's the hews. the same bigoted stuff that was foisted on the blacks. they are no better for the actions. individuals make decisions and when you cast it as a race based on a few then you are indeed a racist.


What I hate about the internet? People who love the the victimization game. For all my dislikes about Obama, the people crying about racial equality should do what he did, work to get at the nomination for US president, dont set around waiting for a handout. He has proved it is a matter of working for what you want, ask Jesse Jackson how the blame game did for him. People can choose to blame the world of 50 years ago for their problems or they can move and do something for themselves.