Originally Posted By: the G-man
Ray, which point should I stand my ground on?

Mccain. you post anti-obama, anti-me, but not too much about why mccain should be president.

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I also conceded your point that Ayers is not, per se, a traitor and clarified the meaning of my earlier comment, while "standing my ground" that his association with Ayers reflects badly on Obama.

which is talked about at length on the Obama thread.

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Beyond that, all I see is more of you Bush obsession, which I've already noted is not a particularly effective, or accurate, strategy against a candidate who's never been afraid to criticize the current president (sometimes even, in my opinion, unfairly).

Bush is the President of the United States. Currently.
As I said the race for president is all about who is the president currently. Presidential policies on the war Bush started, the economy which has turned during his term, the price of gas are all relevant to the campaign for who will take his place in January. He, like any incumbent (lame duck or not), is the main issue of the race.
just because you can't defend him, doesn't mean he's off limits. And again, George W Bush ran in 2000 on the basis that Clinton was a bad President. Did you at the time say he had blind hatred for Clinton, or did you agree and vote for him?

Bow ties are coool.