RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Comic Books Who Is Your Least Favorite Comic Writer?

So, who is it? I'll give plenty of options so as not to sound pretentious...

Least Favorite Comic Writer multiple choice, up to 2 choices
	Other...Name Them
	Brian Bendis
	Frank Miller
	Mark Waid
	JMS
	Warren Ellis
	Geoff Johns
	Joe Kelly
	Mark Millar
	Judd Winick
	Greg Rucka
	Jeph Loeb
Votes accepted starting: 2007-03-20 11:16 PM You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.

Winick and Devil Grayson.

Mine were JMS and Winick. JMS ripped off Heroes (kidding, but I hate his Marvel work).

voted for Loeb and Miller (for that gobawful DKSA and All Star Bats).

I voted for Loeb and Johns, because people praise them and let them completely fuck up the entire industry with their fanwank.

Loeb and Winick

Remember that if you vote for other you should make a reply that actually says who the other is.

I voted for Winnick and only Winnick. He is so far ahead (?) of the others in terms of sheer craptitude, coupled with his habit of sticking in the most out of context inappropriate social lessons, that I could not, in good conscience, dilute my vote for/against him by voting for someone else.

You forgot to add Byrne to the list. Can't stand his drivel.

Is Bryne even writing these days? It seems that, post-Doom Patrol, he's back to only pencilling.

Loeb, and Joss Whedon as my "Other"...

Byrne isn't doing anything for the big two now-he has offcially (?) retired from the two companies to the best of my knowledge. He apparently doesn't agree with their editing vision or their policies-or some such (I don't so much as disagree with him in actuality, but it seems pretentious to not just wait until a new regime takes over).

I went with JMS and Miller. Frank Miller is worse as an artist. DKSA is unviewable. JMS had a good thing going with Amazing Spider-Man, but he crapped out at the end of the Ezekiel saga.

you seem to like his show Heroes just fine.

It's based on his comic Rising Stars.

Well played, Pappas.

No other Devil Grayson votes?

That cunt ruined Nightwing, No Man's Land, Titans, and everything else her fat fingers touched.

Nicely played.

The Winnah..Judd Winick... Take a bow Judd, you stupid ass cunt.

Not on the list:

Grant Morrison

I really despise this guy's work, both style and content. And I've read a fair percentage of his work, because Morrison fans whose fanaticism for his work borders on membership in a religious cult are always saying Ohhh, well you just haven't sampled the best of Morrison's work...

Well, over roughly 14 years I've sampled a few SECRET ORIGINS issues he did early on, KID ETERNITY 1-3, THE MYSTERY PLAY, his ANIMALMAN run, THE INVISIBLES, some FLASH issues he did, his JLA series, the JLA: EARTH 2 hardcover, SEAGUY, THE FILTH, the #0 issue that started his whole 7 SOLDIERS OF VICTORY crossover thing, and most recently his 6-issue ALL STAR SUPERMAN run (which is admittedly more reverent and nostalgic of the Silver Age era than the bulk of his work, but still ultimately disappoints. I mostly bought it for the Quitely art, and just to see if Morrison was capable of telling a story without cynicism, smug pretentiousness, and a characteristic smattering of perversion, gore and other shock elements. Less annoying than usual for him, but he still included way too many of his self-congratulatingly oh-so-clever Morrison-isms. )


Warren Ellis is another self-proclaimed genius who pisses me off to no end.
And Garth Ennis.
And Azzarello.
And Bendis.
All these guys substitute vulgarity and shock value for real talent.

They stink up the industry.


Mark Waid is the only newer writer on that list who has actually written a few stories that I've enjoyed (specifically, some IMPULSE issues, and particularly the early issues of his current LEGION run. )

But Geoff Johns is the worst of the neo-"old-school" writers. He tries to write in the old-school style, but he just doesn't have the talent to pull it off. His stories to me are what a 12-year-old would write in trying to write a "mature" superhero story. And much of the dialogue he puts in the mouths of his adult superhero characters sound like dialogue for middle school kids, rather than adults.
(And likewise Mark Waid's dialogue also, look at his KA-ZAR run from 1997)

Ellis' Nextwave was one of my all time favorite comics. I was sorry to see it go.

Good idea, Chewy.

Waid and Rucka....Unfortunately, I didn't see that Waid was on the list till I already voted for Rucka. So fuck.

you could vote for 2.

Loeb was the only person close.

I voted for Johns. Primarily because he's out to appeal to readers like Dave, who favour old-style plots and dialogues, and yet dangles that bait so badly. JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice would have to be some of the worst writing I've come across in the past 10 years. Recently, scarily, I went off and got some of those old JLA/JSA team-up collected editions, with stories by Cary Bates. And suddenly I could see where Johns comes from. It was hard to imagine that Bates was the same guy who did the fantastically gripping Captain Atom. Bates was so self-indulgent in one JLA/JSA issue he cast himself as a super-powered villain. That's the sort of thing I see in Johns' writing - Superman and Sentinel dribbling over each other about their heroic legacy. Ugh.

Compare this to Millar, who people love to knock becuse of his "shock writing". Millar writes Jack Hawksmoor telling Bill Clinton to watch his step after intervening to stop atrocities in East Timor: writes "Wanted", surely the best villain book ever, as if the Secret Society of Supervillains have taken over the world and none of us know it: writes "Chosen", straight from the Book of Apocalypse and one of the best and most surprising stories I've ever read.

Millar's done some average writing, like for The Ultimates, but even his worst writing is more creatively sophisticated and simply better polished than the best of Johns' work.

As far as what I consider good writing, it boils down (at least to in continuity stories) to an interesting story with characters that act in character (or at least how I perceive them to be in character).

For example: In the "favorite story of the last five years thread", I cited Englehart and Rogers' "Dark Detective" arc.

It was an interesting story because it dealt with the return of a major character from the past in an intriguing way, as well as showing some interesting 'superhero' situations for Batman and other characters to deal with. I also thought that Batman acted in character, insofar as he acted like the guy that people like O'Neill, Dini, and other superior Bat writers depict as Batman.