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Why is one legal and the other not? Makes no sense to me.

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I'm not saying I agree with this theory, however, it boils down to the concept that the actress is being paid for her acting, not for the sex.

Acting is a constitutionally protected form of free speech, as is filmmaking.

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If the performance of sex is part of his or her performance than he or she is getting paid for sex. Prostitution.

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 Originally Posted By: Jason E. Perkins
Why is one legal and the other not? Makes no sense to me.


Probably because both parties involved in the fornication are getting paid.


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 Originally Posted By: King Snarf
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Why is one legal and the other not? Makes no sense to me.


Probably because both parties involved in the fornication are getting paid.

So porn is doubly bad, then?

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Mr Perkins is obviously only talking about hardcore porn in which the actors have sex for real, instead of only faking it, as in softcore or romantic movies. Even if having real sex in front of a camera will be considered as prostitution by the law (and the producer would then be considered a pimp), porn in which actors/models are only naked would still be legal.

In short, Hugh Hefner won't loose his mealticket yet.


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Well, yeah.

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Is that the most sig-worthy thing you could say?


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 Originally Posted By: Jason E. Perkins
Well, yeah.

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You mean selling porn, or making porn?

Making porn, compared to a prostitute having sex with a john, yeah, it's the same act, getting paid to have sex.

Don't know, maybe you can pass off porn as a form of art, and that somehow makes it acceptable.

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 Originally Posted By: Jason E. Perkins
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Well, yeah.

It is done.


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Is it just me, or does it look like (in my sig) that Jason agrees with Frank Miller and Conan, while Uschie complains on all of them for making a bad thread more bad?


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 Originally Posted By: Holden McGroin
You mean selling porn, or making porn?

Making porn, compared to a prostitute having sex with a john, yeah, it's the same act, getting paid to have sex.

Don't know, maybe you can pass off porn as a form of art, and that somehow makes it acceptable.

If I was filming a murder, the murderer would still be liable. Doesn't matter if the filming was art or not. In fact, people would be screaming for the person documenting to be tried for a crime as well.

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sweden
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Well, yeah.

It is done.

Very good. I approve.

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sweden
Is it just me, or does it look like (in my sig) that Jason agrees with Frank Miller and Conan, while Uschie complains on all of them for making a bad thread more bad?

Well...yeah.

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 Originally Posted By: Jason E. Perkins
Why is one legal and the other not? Makes no sense to me.

Because there are controls within the porn industry.
Prostitutes are far more at risk than a porn star while performing their "job".

And just for the record, prostitution is legal in some places, just as porn is illegal in others!

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 Originally Posted By: Jason E. Perkins
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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
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Why is one legal and the other not? Makes no sense to me.

Because there are controls within the porn industry.
Prostitutes are far more at risk than a porn star while performing their "job".

And just for the record, prostitution is legal in some places, just as porn is illegal in others!



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Flip it around and you'll see the problem with that. If prostitution were legal it could be regulated. The reason it's so much more dangerous than porn is that it's illegal.

And, yeah, I know prostitution is legal in many places outside the U.S. That's actually part of my defense.

In countries where prostitution is legal, safeguards are often put in place to protect the buyer and the seller--mandatory testing and the like.

No reason that can't be done here.

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Prostitution, even if regulated, will still have people putting themselves at risk (moreso than porn)!

Isnt prostitution legal in some States in the USA (Nevada springs to mind)?

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I'm with Perkins.....if a woman wants to do it, she should be able to legally.

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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
Prostitution, even if regulated, will still have people putting themselves at risk (moreso than porn)!

Isnt prostitution legal in some States in the USA (Nevada springs to mind)?


I think there is a county or two in Nevada that prostitution is legal. There they have brothels with many safeguards and rules to protect both the client and the prostitute. I think the law still prohibits the street-walker type whores, though.


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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
Prostitution, even if regulated, will still have people putting themselves at risk (moreso than porn)!

Why would it be riskier?

Also, many things are risky but legal. Driving down the road is risky. The fact that driving is regulated makes it safer, however.

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And a woman getting into a car with a stranger and going off with him isnt risky or potentially dangerous?

At least with porn you tend to be with several people, and have big name companies you can go to, to avoid the risks!

With porn, the stars are known and are watched when filming.
A prostitute, even in a brothel, is exposed to people nobody knows, and is in a room with them on their own.

It should be legal, but you have to accept that it is far more risky than porn!

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 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
And a woman getting into a car with a stranger and going off with him isnt risky or potentially dangerous?

At least with porn you tend to be with several people, and have big name companies you can go to, to avoid the risks!

With porn, the stars are known and are watched when filming.
A prostitute, even in a brothel, is exposed to people nobody knows, and is in a room with them on their own.

It should be legal, but you have to accept that it is far more risky than porn!

Prostitution is the way you're describing it to be BECAUSE it's illegal.

You have girls getting into cars with a stranger and driving off because prostitution is illegal. If it wasn't, there would be houses with rooms with cameras and security.

That's the way the limited number of brothels we have in America are. The people who own whore houses aren't stupid. They give their girls security. If nothing else, it protects their assets.

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Ok, so how many people would be put off by being filmed?
And how many prostitutes would still get into cars or go to peoples apartments just so they can be self employed?

Fact is, illegal or not, there are still more risks in prostitution.

Riding a motorbike has risks.
Jumping a motorbike over a bus is even riskier.
Both are legal if you have the paperwork to do so.

Porn is riding a motorbike!
Prostitution involves the bus!

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First you ask how many people would be put off by being filmed and how many prostitutes would still get into cars. Both questions are unanswerable what if's. You can do no more than guess. I can do no more than guess. All I can say is that the legal brothels in Nevada do amazingly well despite the fact that they film their patrons. And girls flock to work in legal brothels.

You say that illegal or not, there are still more risks in prostitution. Not true. No registered prostitute has ever tested positive for HIV. Never.

Fact is, legal, it's not more risky.

Legal brothels are safer than street work for obvious reasons. They require that their girls get constant testing and they require the use of protection at all times. Add to that the fact that they offer a more structured system (patrons can choose the girl out of many in a well lit room, patrons can ask ahead of time for certain services, there's no fear of being beat up by a pimp) and it's no wonder that so many guys decide that being filmed is worth it, especially when confidentiality is promised.

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Sounds like you speak from experience man whore!

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I have - er - read that condoms are rarely used in porn. Would this mean that hardcore porn is more dangerous, as far as STD's are concerned, than legal prostitution?


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I don't know. The use of condoms in porn goes against my religion.

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