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Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said Sunday his plan for universal healthcare would require higher taxes and cost up to $120 billion year....
''Yes, we'll have to raise taxes. The only way you can pay for a healthcare plan that costs anywhere from $90 [billion] to $120 billion is there has to be a revenue source,'' the former North Carolina senator said.

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the G-man said:

Most Democrats want to raise your taxes, but they're usually smart enough to lie about it.

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"Read my lips, no new taxes." (and then he raised them).

"Let's tell the truth. Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, and so will I. He won't tell you. I just did."

"Your taxes will be at the level they were at under President Clinton."

So basically Democrats have a better track record of honesty on tax increases. Bush jr. has lowered taxes, but mainly for the wealthy with token refunds for working families.
I guess your point is that it's better to lie and win, then be honest and lose?

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the G-man said:
I don't know. I remember Dean saying he'd raise taxes in 2004. Kerry attacked him on it and that was when Dean started falling behind in the primaries.

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In "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy", Hoover Fellow Peter Schweizer reveals the glaring contradictions between the public stances and real-life behavior of prominent liberals including Michael Moore, Ted Kennedy, Al Franken, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Ralph Nader – among others.

Among the eye-opening revelations of "Do As I Say":

Filmmaker Michael Moore insists that corporations are evil and claims he doesn't invest in the stock market due to moral principle. But Moore's IRS forms, viewed by Schweizer, show that over the past five years he has owned shares in such corporate giants as Halliburton, Merck, Pfizer, Sunoco, Tenet Healthcare, Ford, General Electric and McDonald's.

Billionaire Bush-basher George Soros says the wealthy should pay higher, more progressive tax rates. But he holds the bulk of his money in tax-free overseas accounts in Curacao, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

And, of course, a few weeks ago we learned that Mark Foley, who spent a good part of his career railing against homosexuals, was one.

In short, there's no dearth of hypocrisy in politics.

Edwards probably figured having a staffer make the call would help keep anyone from finding out. Oh wellll.....

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Karl Hungus said:
Please also provide the figures on the surplus we had on Clinton versus the debt we have under Bush and then explain in your oh so wise way how putting the nation into debt is truly worth the token sum given to working families and the huge breaks to the rich.

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the G-man said:
John Edwards... hawk? At least he is when speaking in Israel

I have to admit, however, its refreshing to hear this from any Democratic presidential contender.

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Left-wing blogger Amanda Marcotte of the vociferously anti-war web site Pandagon has been named by the John Edwards campaign as their new blogmaster.

Looks like Edwards, for all his money, has once again failed to hire good help.

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Left-wing blogger Amanda Marcotte of the vociferously anti-war web site Pandagon has been named by the John Edwards campaign as their new blogmaster.

Looks like Edwards, for all his money, has once again failed to hire good help.

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Edwards in 'Bigotry Blog' War

In response to John Edwards' refusal to fire two staffers for "intolerant" Web postings, the president of the nation's largest Catholic civil rights group said he will launch a campaign next week to point out "the double-standard that [Edwards] is the kingmaker of."

Bill Donohue, president of the conservative-leaning Catholic League and the first to call on the Democratic presidential candidate to fire the bloggers, said that he is not satisfied with Edwards' decision to scold — but not can — the staffers.

By not firing Andrea Marcotte and Melissa McEwan, Donohue said, Edwards is promoting anti-Catholicism. He said the 2008 Democratic contender's actions should be viewed in the same way it would be seen if Edwards had not fired a staffer who had used the 'n'-word.

Despite saying the postings "personally offended me," Edwards decided not to fire Marcotte, who writes for the Pandagon blog, and McEwan, who runs the Shakespeare's Sister blog, for comments they made on those sites.

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the G-man said:
No, Edwards was offended by what his employee wrote, not what the Catholics wrote.

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yeah, i just messed up on the phrasing.

There are other emerging fissures, as well. The aggressively photogenic John Edwards was cruising along, detailing his litany of liberal causes last week until, during question time, he invoked the "I" word — Israel.

Perhaps the greatest short-term threat to world peace, Edwards remarked, was the possibility that Israel would bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. As a chill descended on the gathering, the Edwards event was brought to a polite close.

Not Ahmedinijad?

Not al-Qaeda?

Not a coup attempt in Pakistan?

Not a complete breakdown in Iraq?

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Pig Iran said:
edwards already screwed up..by being an anti-semite.

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Pig Iran said:
well.......it's a surprise 4 out of 5 jews are democrats...

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Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards says Jesus would be appalled at how the United States has ignored the plight of the suffering, and that he believes children should have private time to pray at school.

"I think that Jesus would be disappointed in our ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering and our focus on our own selfish short-term needs," Edwards told the site. "I think he would be appalled, actually."

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Edwards: Jesus Would Be 'Appalled' at U.S.

Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards says Jesus would be appalled at how the United States has ignored the plight of the suffering, and that he believes children should have private time to pray at school.

"I think that Jesus would be disappointed in our ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering and our focus on our own selfish short-term needs," Edwards told the site. "I think he would be appalled, actually."

Thank goodness the Democrats aren't like those bad old republicans, trying to mix church and state or anything.

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"The house was built from the beginning, both in its location for passive solar and the use of active solar, to help provide some of the energy for the house," said Edwards, in an interview with The Associated Press. "It doesn't provide all of the energy, but it provides some."

Edwards said he hired a design expert during construction of the home to suggest energy efficiency options.

"We actually had an expert come in and design how to make it energy efficient," said Edwards. "He came in and said this is the way to set up the systems. He came in and figured out how to make it efficient."

Edwards also said his family was taking efficiency to the smallest detail.

"Elizabeth, I saw her climb up, I literally saw her with piles of fluorescent light bulbs changing them out," said Edwards. "We are also committed to making the house carbon neutral."

Presidential candidate John Edwards said yesterday he is reimbursing his campaign $800 for his "hair"-brained Beverly Hills coifs.

The Democratic Edwards, who has taken fire for playing to the poor on the campaign trail while living a first-class lifestyle, charged two $400 haircuts from Tinseltown mane maestro Joe Torrenueva to his campaign, federal records show.

The payouts touched off a furor among middle-class voters in the heartland - people Edwards is counting on to propel his campaign - and prompted one Iowa newspaper to survey local barbers, one of whom called the $400 price tag "preposterous."

News of the first-class pampering for Edwards, who already has a reputation in political circles as a pretty boy, touched off a new round of mockery.

A popular YouTube clip shows the candidate obsessively combing his locks to the tune of "I Feel Pretty."

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Uschi said:
No, I only wanted the ones people gave a shit about. Just over a year and a half to elections, no better time to make it easier to look at the issues.

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Romney, Thompson and Gore are all popular and, in some cases, more popular in national polls than the candidates you "pinned", even though the latter two haven't even announced.

Furthermore, at this early stage of proceedings, it is impossible to know who will inevitably win either party's nomination. For example, in 1992, Bill Clinton came out of nowhere, beating a crowded field.

So if your goal is to allow the readers easy access to the positions, or other information, about potential nominees, you have probably failed.

But, its okay. I realize that you're not very well read about U.S. politics, since that would tend to undermine your attempt at creating a "bad girl anarchist" image for yourself.

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Uschi said:
No, I only wanted the ones people gave a shit about. Just over a year and a half to elections, no better time to make it easier to look at the issues.

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Romney, Thompson and Gore are all popular and, in some cases, more popular in national polls than the candidates you "pinned", even though the latter two haven't even announced.

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PJP said:
I thought she was going for the "bad girl retard" image!

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The hedge fund that employed John Edwards markedly expanded its subprime lending business while he worked there, becoming a major player in the high-risk mortgage sector Edwards has pilloried in his presidential campaign.

Edwards said yesterday that he was unaware of the push by the firm, Fortress Investment Group, into subprime lending and that he wishes he had asked more questions before taking the job.