RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Sports and Wrestling hows bout those yankees for 2007 - cuz no other team matters

ARod is gone....they won't even think about signing him. They will go after Lowell. Give him 4 years instead of the 2 the Sox will offer and he will take it.

I wonder if the Sox will go after A Rod? I wonder how different things would have been if you guys made that trade and gave up Manny and got A Rod and we were never stuck with him. It probably would have been us celebrating last night. The Angels Dodgers or Cubs will more than likely get him but I bet the Sox will think about it.

I'm hoping that the Red Sox do the right thing by Lowell and re-sign him. Offer him 2 years plus a player option or give him the three years he's looking for. Either way, make the Yankees trade for (shudder) Crede or (shudder x 2) Beltre.

I'm praying that onership listens to their fans and avoids A-Rod. Yes, he's an amazing talent, but that talent isn't worth the impact he and his contract would have on the clubhouse. He's basically a more talented, non-roided Barry Bonds. Let the California teams duke it out for him and his insecurities and inability to produce in the off-season.

And I have to agree with you. Hindsight being 20/20, that deal would've killed us.

Did you listen to Baseball this Morning at all Dave?

It was hilarious....they had Lasorda on and he was blasting A Rod and Boras for leaking that out during the middle of the Red Sox game last night. He was trying to upstage the fucking World Series. Lasorda said he needs to get his brains checked. Then Patrick and Martinez were saying how good a fit LA would be for him so he could concentrate on his statistics.

I didn't catch it this morning. Frankly, I didn't care that Ken Rosenthal (who sucks - doesn't FOX have any hot chicks to do that job so I at least have some eye candy to watch while I ignore the drivel coming out of her mouth?) felt the need to report the news instead of waiting until tomorrow. All it does is show everyone exactly the type of player a team will be getting when they sign him. Y'think Barry Bonds was bad with him La-Z-Boy and his prima donna attitude? Enjoy A-Rod, who kill your team's chemistry and make you pay through the nose to boot.

That said, I'd love to see him sign with the Dodgers (whose fans don't seem to care about their team), the Giants (because they know better and would get what they deserve if they did), or the Cubs.

Remember, back in 2004, FOX absolutely NEEDED to cut to Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore as the Red Sox celebrated their first championship in 86 years. Nothing FOX does surprises me anymore.

he had ten days, starting today, to make his decision (or at least make his decision known) and chose literally the middle of the final world series game to announce it.

pure class, that arod.

its honestly sucha damn shame. he's the most talented player in the sport, and he just goes out of his way to annoy people.

if you didn't know, a day prior to the announcement, yanks floated the rumor of offering a 5+ year, $25-30 million extention to his contract. that'd keep him in a single uniform for like 10 more years, plus give him brazillions of dollars, and keep him on a competing team. ...thats sorta what every player wants.

and, especially in this case, "every player" should include arod, as all this year he made it especially known how much he loves new york, and that he's building a house nearby and all that stuff.

if y'dont wanna stay in new york, thats cool boyo. but don't be phoney about it.

personally, i've never liked him. respect his skills like a mother fucker (assuming mother fuckers respect great baseball skill sets), but never liked him. he just strikes me as a guy completely void of heart. like he's got all the talent in the world, but then just coasts on it. i wouldn't have minded having him stay around, as he'll likely shatter the bonds/aaron record in a few more years and the yanks could get that back in their name. but, other than that, i'll shed no tears.

i think its in the yanks best interest to note this, and all of last year, and learn from it. stop trying to piece meal a team of freelancers, and use this opportunity to build. 15 some-odd rookies went through the ranks last year did fantastic -- thats the direction to strive for.

non-roided...so far...

presactly...

there's still a chance he'll stay as bench coach.

nah. he put out a press release a few hours ago sayin that he was outta there.

sucks.

don't really care about torre or arod, but the mattingly departure sucks.

he should stay and learn some more from Girardi.....he shouldn't be in a rush. If he is gonna be a baby about it then fuck him. I love the guy too but Girardi is the better choice.

meh, i guess.

i think its more an issue of loyalty and such. he came on in '04 to eventually have the manager's job. he's the guy who's been there since. its like he's the VP, and the prez just left. its his job to lose. so, to him, girardi is the yankee organization looking outside for help because they don't trust donnie.

i understand how that'd be a crummy ordeal.

From ESPN.com...



Could someone explain to me how those numbers justify Down Syndrome LL Cool J getting his option picked up?

16 mill...that would kill some teams...

well, he is good. but i assume the quick-move and high payout was for some sorta stability in the panic of a so-far nutty offseason (some 5 days in)

But his numbers hardly justify the money, and the Yankees still have a logjam in the outfield. Why not let him go, throw Melky or Damon in right field (the other one can play CF), and use that money on pitching or third base or for some other need?

lots of panic. lots of fanfare. and, most importantly, there are now three steinbrenners in charge, instead of one.

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ble$$ you

the guy had a bad year and still led the team in runs scored and had over 100 rbi.......he's worth it. damon and melky are trade bait.

he's better for us than Tavarez is for you guys by the way.

that's not hard to imagine

Pettite declined the team option today for 16 million. He still strongly reiterated that he will either pitch for the Yanks or no one but he had to make this decision by Wednesday and decided thta he needed more time to decide wheteher or not he will pitch next year.

i think pettitte and jorge should be the yanks big priorities. then mo. abreu shoulda been after.

i also dunno if i believe the "yankees or no one" notion pettitte is putting out there. but... he's a friggin great picther. left handed starter pullin in 15+ wins a year isn't a common commodity. tap on the post-season experience, comfort in new york... its a good fit.

Plus few other teams can afford to pay that much............................

your post didn't make sense until all those dots

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Official statement from Alex Rodriguez


11/14/2007 3:27 PM ET
After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization.

Prior to entering into serious negotiations with other clubs, I wanted the opportunity to share my thoughts directly with Yankees' ownership. We know there are other opportunities for us, but Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club that has brought us comfort, stability and happiness.

As a result, I reached out to the Yankees through mutual friends and conveyed that message. I also understand that I had to respond to certain Yankees concerns, and I was receptive and understanding of that situation.

Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family. During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days.

i was reading about this. apparently said the yankees would talk to arod, but only if scott boras wasn't allowed to be in on the call (he's banned from the yankees compound)

my number 1 wish for this ordeal was that no one would sign arod, and he'd walk around in shame during 2008.

that aside, im not sure how i feel about the notion of getting arod back. i still hate him. i still think he's a dufus. i think he's somehow found the way to lower his rep and locker room morale in the past few weeks. but he's still an amazing player with 10+ healthy years left, barring griffeyism, and he's currently baseball's best hitter (and pretty good at defense, baserunning, etc) so he's a good asset to have.

i gotta admit, though, i was really getting used to the idea of not having him around. yanks could make a much smaller offer on lowell or cabrera, and potentially find a better fit for their team.

whatta ya think, peejus

I think if he truly is sincere about this and signs a contract for less money just to stay with the Yanks and embarasses Boras in the process he will be loved by all of baseball. I won't ever truly embrace the guy till he wins a championship wearing pinstripes (I've already given away my A Rod shirts and jersey to good will) but he certainly seems to be on his way to repairing his reputation. Furthermore, I believe he will remove all presure whatsoever from himself if he has a long contract with the Yanks and shows he is more interested about the team than the money.


At this point I could go either way. It's tough to replace him and you don't want to trade for a third baseman 'cause that might mean getting rid of Hughes or Kennedy. Lowell is the greatest clubhouse prescence in all of baseball but his numbers aren't as good as they seem (this year he batted .370 at Fenway and .280 elsewhere) but he would be a helluva first baseman for the Yanks if they get him and A Rod.

Either way we will make the Sox overpay for Lowell or force them to give up Bucholz and Elsbury to get Cabrera.....HA HA!

it'd be a good strategy to count on not getting arod, and then seeing how far they could strong arm him. not raising his current salary, for example. also, i don't know for sure, but i've read he doesn't necessarily have to travel with the team or stay at the same hotel as the team (i don't think clemens did, either). get rid of that shit.

Yeah...pretty much. I like A-Rod as a player but he is such a prima donna. I think both he and the Yanks would be better off parting. That way the team could find a player with lower numbers but add to team chemistry and A-Rod could find a team where he could finally get to be Derek Jeter...just without the rings.

But there's the key term: "barring Griffeyism." Just because he's been amazing to this point in his career - and no one, not even me, will argue otherwise - doesn't mean that he'll be able to stay completely healthy for the next 10 years. Shit happens, injuries happen, and talent declines. So the question becomes, are the Yankees (or any team) willing to take the risk and sign A-Rod for ten years at $30 Million per? The answer so far has been "not really."



Y'know, this post is exactly why I hope he signs with the Angels or White Sox and then comes back to Yankee Stadium and rapes them in every game. Did he and Boras fuck the Yankees out of the $27 Million they're supposed to get from Texas? Yup. And the Yankees did an admirable thing by trying to negotiate in good faith but then saying "if he opts out, we're done with him." But now they're willing to negotiate "as long as Boras isn't around"??? It's amazing how quickly the Yankees became backpedalling pussies. Here's the reality of the situation: Boras IS involved, whether or not the Yankees pretend otherwise. Will he be in the negotiations? Maybe not, but you can be damned sure that whoever does negotiate will be reporting back to him. And you can be damned sure that he'll use those negotiations to work on other teams directly. Maybe A-Rod will sign with the Yankees, maybe he won't. But y'know that bidding war the Yankees said they won't participate in? Congratulations, you're participating in it. So you keep flip-flopping on him and know this: whether he decides to sign with the Yankees (and deal with ten years of you assclowns prattling about "true Yankees" and booing him), or he signs elsewhere (and comes back to haunt the Yankees), the Yankees just gave A-Rod and Boras the last laugh. Be proud.



Considering they didn't overpay Martinez (but the Mets did), Lowe (but the Dodgers did), or Damon (but the Yankees did)...and considering they had a shot at Oswalt and/or Andruw Jones in 2006 but wouldn't give up those guys...and considering they have Youkilis to play third so they can sign or trade for a first baseman...I don't see either scenario happening.

Yes, "HA HA!" indeed.

PS: Someone from one of the New York papers (I believe) figured out what A-Rod would "really" cost the Yankees if he'd signed the extension deal versus what he'll cost them as a free agent. I'll find that and post it here. The short version is, it's a $203 Million difference...

The original article is only available to ESPN Insiders (one of whom I am not), so I found the next best thing. Consider the source(s) as you read:

http://theyankeesrepublic.blogspot.com/2007/11/203-million-dollar-canard_13.html





The blog goes on to refute Stark's assertions. But even their arguments are flawed...