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 Originally Posted By: Grimm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_%28Marvel_Comics%29

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An Asgardian goddess by birth, her real name is Brunnhilde. Among her other aliases are Barbara Denton-Norriss, Samantha Parrington and Sian Bowen who all were host bodies to the spirit of Brunnhilde. Her first appearance was in The Avengers v1 #83. For much of her history she was a mainstay of superhero team known as the Defenders. Samantha Parrington, a previous host to Brunnhilde, later received the Valkyrie powers herself and became a member of the Defenders as Valkyrie.


No, honey, I meant the other blonde on the bottom right.



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The blonde on the bottom right is Gwen Stacy (or maybe her daughter by the Green Goblin). I'm not sure how you think she looks like Thor, however.

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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
Who is the old dude, top left hand corner?


Ezekiel, IIRC.



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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
The blonde on the bottom right is Gwen Stacy (or maybe her daughter by the Green Goblin). I'm not sure how you think she looks like Thor, however.


I didn't!




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GA = Golden Age. ;\)

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 Originally Posted By: harleykwin
 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
Who is the old dude, top left hand corner?


Ezekiel, IIRC.


Thank you, Harley! \:\)


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 Originally Posted By: Grimm
GA = Golden Age. ;\)


Smart ass.


































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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
Who is the old dude, top left hand corner?


Ezekiel, IIRC.


Thank you, Harley! \:\)




You're welcome, Jerry. \:\)



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 Originally Posted By: Grimm
GA = Golden Age. ;\)



but I thought....oh nevermind....


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 Originally Posted By: Grimm

but then this is Marvel, who will throw logic and even recent storylines out the window for the sake of worshipping at the altar of the "EVENT" comic.


The true tragedy of the current industry is that you could replace the word "Marvel" with "DC", and the sentence would still be perfectly true...

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Ezekiel sucks, Marvel will use him.

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 Originally Posted By: Grimm

pretty pointless changes to make when you already have Ult. Spider-Man who fills the young, unmarried, teenage hero role pretty nicely for them. It's the perfect situation of actually being able to eat your cake and have it, too.

but then this is Marvel, who will throw logic and even recent storylines out the window for the sake of worshipping at the altar of the "EVENT" comic.

I agree 100%....now you'll have 2 titles basically exactly the same. They fucked up with Civl War revealing his identity.

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 Originally Posted By: harleykwin
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GA = Golden Age. ;\)


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 Originally Posted By: Jeremy
Ezekiel sucks, Marvel will use him.
Ezekiel was an aweshome character until they made him kind of a bad guy at the end of his "run".

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 Originally Posted By: PJP
They fucked up with Civl War revealing his identity.


Yeah. There are certain characters that really only work if they have a strong secret ID. Spidey is one of those. Half the fun of Spiderman since day one has been the need for him to balance his personal life/personal problems with his crime fighting career, without people knowing he's the same person.

If anything's necessitating a retcon or reboot, it's the events of Civil War.

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They fucked up with Civl War revealing his identity.


Yeah. There are certain characters that really only work if they have a strong secret ID. Spidey is one of those. Half the fun of Spiderman since day one has been the need for him to balance his personal life/personal problems with his crime fighting career, without people knowing he's the same person.

If anything's necessitating a retcon or reboot, it's the events of Civil War.
Totally. They really didn't think that through at all.

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 Originally Posted By: PJP
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Ezekiel sucks, Marvel will use him.
Ezekiel was an aweshome character until they made him kind of a bad guy at the end of his "run".


I had no problem with him being evil. The idea of him being Spider-Man's opposite (yes I know we already have Venom for that role) made for a good story. However the climax of his "run" was just crap. JMS obviously couldn't come up with another way for Spidey to win. Instead we get Ezekiel's sudden and emotional change of heart. Lame. Powerful lame.

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i think they should lessen the rule against the main superheroes killing. the ezekiel storyline was a case where spider-man killing ezekial in battle was the only logical ending. it would have tied the predatory spider aspects together and would have given them some good stories they could do for years. the superman/zod story from the 1990's was great. and this "superheroes don't kill ever, in fact they even have to perform cpr on the joker if someone else tries to kill him."
just silly. obviously they can't be the punisher, but sometimes lethal force in stories is logical and justified. but they refuse to go through with it and still set up stories that require it.


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I thought "Batman Begins" had the right balance, where he says to Ras "I won't kill you...but I don't have to save you..."

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If heroes killed all their enemies, they'd have no one left to fight.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
I thought "Batman Begins" had the right balance, where he says to Ras "I won't kill you...but I don't have to save you..."


I like that line

It works well for Batman


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
I thought "Batman Begins" had the right balance, where he says to Ras "I won't kill you...but I don't have to save you..."

exactly. though saving the joker is just silly. and not going for a fatal blow to save a life is silly, and kind of immoral. after all the people joker has killed or terrorized, his ability to mass murder with little trouble, and his ability to always get out of jail or even kill from jail.
and i do think superman should kill sometimes. with all those mountain-shattering punches it makes no sense that no one ever dies in a knockdown fight with him.


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Issue 3 came out yesterday.....the ending was pretty fucking horrible. Decent story along the way though.

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 Originally Posted By: Beardguy57
If heroes killed all their enemies, they'd have no one left to fight.


End of comics industry.



Not necessarily true.

Take a look at comic magazines' father, the pulp magazines. The Shadow killed villains, but some of them could escape and return, like Shiwan Khan. On the other hand, Doc Savage treated his foes with brain surgery, which was so successful that only one or two of his foes returned to crime. Yet, both titles lasted for more than a decade, and at least The Shadow was popular enough to 'survive' WWII and its paper shortage.


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 Originally Posted By: PJP
Issue 3 came out yesterday.....the ending was pretty fucking horrible. Decent story along the way though.


Warning, Spoiler:
Did May and MJ make it out okay?

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It ended this week. So Peter and MJ made a deal with Mephisto and they will both forget ever being married so May can live. Mephisto also gave Peter back his secret identity and neither he nor MJ will ever remember being married. It will help provide the writers with lots of new storylines love interests to write about but all in all it was stupid. May was an old lady. They were really gonna give up their future together 'cause of her....I doubt that. This was more the Donkey Fuckers doing realizing how badly they fucked up with Civil War and the identity revelation.

Harry Osborne is now alive again and Peter and MJ's baby never is born now.

I wonder what more got changed.....clone wars....ben reily.....my hairy ass.


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I swore I'd never read it again after this but honestly Peter Parker is one of my favorite characters so I may give it a chance for awhile. But I like him and MJ together. They fucked up with this one.

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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
According to LITG, One More Day is gonna end with Spidey having to choose between saving May or having his marriage to MJ retconned. He chooses May and as a result MJ doesn't even know his secret identity anymore.

That'd suck. May should have died 30 years ago.
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 Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
It ended this week. So Peter and MJ made a deal with Mephisto and they will both forget ever being married so May can live. Mephisto also gave Peter back his secret identity and neither he nor MJ will ever remember being married.

Harry Osborne is now alive again and Peter and MJ's baby never is born now.



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Geez. I'm not a fan of the Peter/MJ marriage, but that is one fucked up denounment...the hero literally makes a deal with the devil?!?!?

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 Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
I swore I'd never read it again after this but honestly Peter Parker is one of my favorite characters so I may give it a chance for awhile. But I like him and MJ together. They fucked up with this one.


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This is why PJP should be admin. He just saved everyone here tons of cash on crappy spider-man comics.


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JMS was pretty much the one who kept Pete and MJ together during his run. Quesada has wanted them apart since the first movie. I'm sure that Quesada insisted that the upcoming creative team be given a certain playing field with which to play.

I do think saving Aunt May is stupid. Not because I think she should have died 30 years ago, but because of the most recent issue of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. She let Peter know that she didn't want to go back and asked him explicitly to let her move on, save lives, be with MJ, and have kids. But hey, maybe that was just the writer's way of voicing his opinion on the storyline.

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thta and it makes sense.....


as an old person, love of your life has died, would you want a kid (or the same thing) to give up his wife n unborn child to keep you alive?

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I checked it out and yeah...all bad. It can't stick, think of the effects on New Avengers, and so forth. My bet is alternate reality. MJ remembers what's up but can't tell Peter. Hilarity ensues.

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This is why PJP should be admin. He just saved everyone here tons of cash on crappy spider-man comics.


Insert obligatory "Thank God for PJP" quote.

It's not even that original a premise. They did this in "The Flash" a few years ago, right after "Underworld Unleashed" (except Neron's plan backfired)

Did the people at Marvel have a flashback to this storyline?


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I swore I'd never read it again after this but honestly Peter Parker is one of my favorite characters so I may give it a chance for awhile. But I like him and MJ together. They fucked up with this one.


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 Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
It ended this week. So Peter and MJ made a deal with Mephisto and they will both forget ever being married so May can live. Mephisto also gave Peter back his secret identity and neither he nor MJ will ever remember being married. It will help provide the writers with lots of new storylines love interests to write about but all in all it was stupid. May was an old lady. They were really gonna give up their future together 'cause of her....I doubt that. This was more the Donkey Fuckers doing realizing how badly they fucked up with Civil War and the identity revelation.

Harry Osborne is now alive again and Peter and MJ's baby never is born now.

I wonder what more got changed.....clone wars....ben reily.....my hairy ass.


I give it 1 star out of 20.

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