RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events 17 year old Trayvon Martin shot by Neighborhood watch guy Zimmerman

Unless Martin was also carrying a pistol, Zimmerman is guilty of murder.

If someone was jumping on me, and I was carrying a gun, I damn well would take the gun out and shoot my attacker at some point.

Good old fashioned Hate from David. How am I not surprised?

If you kill them, then you should go to jail as a murderer. Especially if they're unarmed, and a teenager. Fact.

In light of the confirmed injuries, I'd like to revive a question that Doc asked MEM earlier in the thread:



Barring further perceptions of what you consider to be "reasonable" since hypotheticals aren't necessarily meant to fit any such preconceptions--plus all of your assumptions with regards to their weight classes and the likelihood of one getting beat up over another turned out to be wrong--in light of the new evidence, do you care to make any amendments to your position?

Oh, Repostheus

We saw it, move on lazy girl, adults are talking.

Then what the fuck are you speaking up for?

I tend not to waste time repeating my posts. Once I've made my point, and no one is able to contradict it, all I have to do is repost it to make my point. Learn to read and then you can have something to say on the subject. I mean, other than

People can contradict you, you childishly ignore them then call them a name.

You call others cowards but instead of discuss or debate you spam.

It's weak and lazy.

Your childish attitude makes you open for ridicule, but it doesn't make me angry.

BTW, seriously, I like the Cobra avatar. Well done.

So Zimmerman had some minor injuries and that proves what exactly? The doc was talking about Zimmerman hypothetically being beaten to death. He was clearly not injured anywhere near that.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&to...iw=1024&bih=648

Choose your poison in news sources.

Martin had marijuana in his system, which I can say little about, I smoked pot as a teen and never had a physical confrontation.

Problem is new witness account

That might be because he shot Martin.

My question was, in essence, if the roles had been reversed or just that Zimmerman didn't have a gun and was the victim of violence from Martin, would you still blame Zimmerman, or would you recognize Martin as being an aggressor and responsible?

I'm waiting to see if they release the trajectory of the bullet that killed Martin. That should give us a better idea of the situation when Zimmerman fired.

there was a second gunman!

The trace amount Martin had in his body wouldn't have affected him. Zimmerman however was on a couple of prescription that treat a couple of mental disorders.

The witness account isn't new. That and several others who saw and heard different things have already been posted in this thread.

Like I said, I smoked pot as a teen and never had any physical confrontations.

To say the amount wouldn't have had an effect is silly.

It may have, it may not.

It doesn't make any difference, really.

Holy. Shit. Are you kidding me? And The Rightwing Racists are scrambling to defend this fucking whackjob?



And I'm sure it will be posted again and again in different formats, from different Right-sites, with different slants, by all the Righto's in this thread. Hell, G's probably right now looking for a way to question you, MEM. He sure loves you, there's no denying that one...

"Teen"? How old were you in those Interview pics you have me? There's one of you, looking like you're in your 20's, smoking a joint...

I've smoked pot for 18 years and I can tell you with absolute certainty there's nothing in weed that makes ANYONE want to "confront" anyone or anything else except your couch and the fridge. It's ludicrous when kneejerks (not you, I'm ranting) who have never tried anything try and say with some sense of expertise that they know the effects of marijuana and how people "should" react to it. The greatest argument I love is: "Well, I've never jumped off a bridge, but I don't have to know it will hurt me/I don't want to/etc." It makes me laugh when ignorants try and correlate any type of harm or death to pot when there's absolutely zero accounts of weed causing any deaths or medical conditions that weren't already present. Just more Federal-Spin because they literally can't control it. Unlike alcohol, tobacco, and cocaine (!) all of which are rated lower in risk. However, I have yet to find any actual scientific fact to back that up. Just the Feds and their power grip. They want to tax it soooo bad, but because it's so easy to grow Philip-Morris battles against its legality every chance they get, while simultaneously preparing for the day it happens by prepping entire factories and fields to grow Corporate Addiction-Added Marijuana for the masses. Because, if they can't make money off it, you sure as FUCK don't have the right to enjoy yourself. Don't you understand the Amerikan System of Corporate Government?

Sorry. Touchy subject for me.

No, factually, it would not have had any effect. The trace amount in his bloodstream merely indicates that sometime in the past 30 days he'd inhaled (possibly only a single puff). Medically, weed loses its effects on you after a couple of hours. If he'd been toking up within hours of his death, the amount would be a lot more than a "trace". And, let's face it, he'd probably be chilling out somewhere, not passing through...

I still do, I just did then as well.

I'm not trying to say it had any thing to do with the shooting.

I was really more interested in the witness account I had never heard before.

This from a guy who calls a haircut "rape..."

This from a guy that calls brown people "subhuman..."

Or Romney getting a group together to help hold down somebody so that he can give the them an unwanted haircut as just a prank.

CNN

This is going to be a problem for the defense since previously it was just thought that only Zimmerman was the only one left to testify how the fight started. If Martin's friend testifies that she could hear Martin saying "get off, get off" that is going to give the prosecution testimony to use that it was Zimmerman who started the fight.

...Who has less of a motive to lie than Zimmerman.

There's a phrase for an argument that stupid. It escapes me at the moment.

Nonetheless, you're being incredibly concessionary. For what reason, I have not a clue.

Seriously....less motive to lie. That's fucking retarded.

Actually, what G-man said, in full context, was that radical muslim Afghans who kill U.S. soldiers --killing the very people who are rebuilding Afghans' country and training an Afghan army, killing U.S. soldiers who defend them against radical Taliban and Al Qaida fanatics, who saw people's heads off, who brutalize women, that Afghan fanatics who kill the people who are trying to pull them out of a radical islamic stone age-- are subhuman.

NOT "brown people" are subhuman.

Specific islamic fanatics who kill people are subhuman.


I frankly didn't fully agree with G-man's comment when he made it. But I still feel you slanderously misrepresented the context.

I don't think we should go in and carpet bomb the whole country. But I do think at this point we should stop training Afghan soldiers who are shooting our own soldiers in the back, and withdraw entirely from Afghanistan as soon as our national security interests and stability allow.

And I think we should reserve the right to invade and/or carpet bomb them in the future, if Afghanistan again harbors terrorism that threatens the United States.

For Zimmerman the motive for lying would be to avoid prison. Martin's friend however would actually be taking a risk if she gave false testimony.

Glad I could explain it for you Pariah.

I still think it's obvious that recreational marijuana use was the main catalyst for the events that precipitated this tragedy, no matter how much far-left enablers of evil try and maintain otherwise.

You mean if he hadn't been high he wouldn't have needed Skittles?

Please please PLEASE don't even try to say the trace thc in his bloodstream is what made martin ask that wanna-be cop why he was following him. First off, did martin smoke weed or did he hang with people who did? Because I've gotten contact high from friends smoking weed around me but I've never puffed a joint in my life. Second, I've never known a person who was anything other than mellow when stoned. I don't understand the "devil weed" mentality people still have.

I agree the marijuana is a non issue.