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Glad you feel nobody lied. That doesn't mean much to me though. Nor does it make it a fact.


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I've cited the facts, M E M.

In the cases of Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn, I'm not arguing they're saints who have never done anything unethical or possibly criminal,
but their disqualifying/unethical actions occurred BEFORE they were ever part of the Trump administration.

And there has certainly been a politically-motivated shakedown by FBI/DOJ to maliciously charge the Trump officials listed,
despite their *NOT* taking the bait.

And despite all the evidence against Hillary and the Democrats, and key players in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and DNI, a clear and partisan reluctance
to prosecute despite overwhelming evidence against them.
Those are the facts.


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'Viva Le Resistance' FBI LAWYER ON MEULLER INVESTIGATIVE TEAM


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An unidentified FBI attorney assigned to the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election left that case after the Justice Department’s internal watchdog discovered instant messages that “included statements of hostility toward” then-candidate Donald Trump, including one stating "viva le resistance," according to a new report.

The highly anticipated report from the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General, released Thursday, disclosed text messages and instant messages sent on FBI devices by five FBI employees who were assigned to the Clinton email probe.

“We found that the conduct of these five FBI employees brought discredit to themselves, sowed doubt about the FBI’s handling of the midyear investigation, and impacted the reputation of the FBI,” the report said.


One unidentified lawyer, named in the report as “FBI Attorney 2,” worked in the FBI’s Office of General Counsel, National Security and Cyber Law Branch and was assigned to the Clinton email and Russia probes, as well as special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling.

But he left the special counsel’s team in late February 2018, the report stated, after the Office of the Inspector General provided the special counsel with instant messages that raised political issues, including Trump. Three exchanges identified by the inspector general “raised concerns of potential bias.”

One exchange was sent Oct. 28, 2016, the day then-FBI Director James Comey notified Congress the investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server had effectively been reopened.



The unidentified FBI attorney told two FBI employees, “I mean, I never really liked the Republic anyway.”

He told a third employee, “I’m clinging to small pockets of happiness in the dark time of the Republic’s destruction.”

The lawyer told the Office of the Inspector General that the messages reflected his “frustration” that the FBI “was essentially walking into a landmine in terms of injecting itself” into the presidential election.

The second exchange was sent Nov. 9, 2016, and involved another unnamed FBI employee not assigned to the Clinton probe.

The lawyer told the other employee then, “I am numb.”

The unidentified employee replied, “You promised me this wouldn’t happen. YOU PROMISED.”

The FBI attorney later said, “I am so stressed about what I could have done differently,” and said the FBI “broke the momentum” for Clinton.

In that exchange, the FBI employee called Trump voters “poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS that think he will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing.”

The FBI attorney replied, “I’m just devastated. I can’t wait until I can leave today and just shut off the world for the next four days.”

“I just can’t imagine the systematic disassembly of the progress we made over the last 8 years. ACA is gone. Who knows if the rhetoric about deporting people, walls, and crap is true,” he said in a later message, according to the report. “I honestly feel like there is going to be a lot more gun issues, too, the crazies won finally. This is the tea party on steroids. And the GOP is going to be lost, they have to deal with an incumbent in 4 years. We have to fight this again. Also Pence is stupid.”


He said it was difficult “not to feel like the FBI caused some of this. It was razor thin in some states.”

The lawyer lamented the fact that his “god damned name is all over the legal documents investigating his staff," which appears to be a reference to Trump.

The FBI attorney told the Office of the Inspector General of the exchange that the two were discussing personal feelings about the election, but said his “personal political feelings or beliefs … in no way impacted” his work on the Clinton email or Russia investigations.

The third exchange involving the unnamed FBI lawyer took place Nov. 22, 2016. In that discussion, which involved another attorney, the two remarked on the amount of money a member of the Trump campaign, who was the subject of an FBI investigation, had been paid.

The second attorney asked, “Is it making you rethink your commitment to the Trump administration?”

The FBI lawyer in question responded, “Hell no,” adding, “Viva le resistance.”

When asked by the inspector general’s office if the latter comment indicated he was “going to fight back” against Trump, the attorney said it was just “commentary” between two people “in a personal friendly capacity where she is just making a joke, and I’m responding.”

The FBI attorney said both he and the other lawyer were assigned to the Russia probe when the exchange took place and acknowledged “the perception issues that come from” the messages.

The inspector general noted in the report that the conduct in question from the FBI officials “cast a cloud over the” bureau's Clinton email investigation. The Justice Department’s watchdog, though, said there was no evidence that connected the political views expressed in the messages to the decisions related to the Clinton email probe.


On top of everything else, no less.

And... WHY is the Meuller investigation still credibly unpartisan and not shut down at this point?
Will anyone still believe their findings are not corrupt at this point?



The press has known for 2 weeks who this lawyer is, but for reasons that are a mystery, his name has been kept secret.



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FBI AGENTS' TEXTS REVEAL DISGUSTING HYPOCRISY


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New revelations show that senior FBI officials were committing precisely the same offenses for which they were investigating Hillary Clinton and President Donald Trump

Newly-released text messages show that FBI special agent Peter Strzok and attorney Lisa Page used personal devices for official government work and “gmailed” government information to one another using unsecured systems.

The activity would be fine if the duo worked in the private sector and they hadn’t been in charge of one of the most public investigations in FBI history, questioning Clinton for precisely the same thing.

Not only did the senior bureau officials send thousands of text messages to one another over a period of five months (which quite frankly begs the question, “Doesn’t anyone work anymore?") According to those texts, the lovers used personal Gmail email accounts to share government documents and information.

They also used personal devices and Apple iMessages to discuss their investigations.

The pair also discussed their advanced knowledge of news articles before they were published, which suggests that the FBI officials may have been complicit in media leaks.

In another twist of irony, Strzok and Page also strategized just how easy to go on Clinton in what they saw as the likely event that she would become president. Of course this is the very definition of collusion – the very thing for which they were investigating then-candidate Donald Trump.

Their actions should have been due cause to recuse themselves from the case or to be forcibly removed from the investigations.

However, blinded by its bias against then-candidate Trump, the FBI did nothing. In fact, the pair’s unethical communications went completely unnoticed by the bureau.

What’s worse, the FBI appears to have not initially captured or preserved the text messages; it was only this week that a Department of Justice watchdog reported to congress that his office had unearthed the messages.

Before the texts were rediscovered, the FBI was missing messages from several critical time periods: the day that the Trump dossier prepared by British spy Christopher Steele was published by BuzzFeed; the day that then-FBI Director James Comey was fired by Trump; the day that Strzok interviewed Gen. Michael Flynn on Jan. 24, 2017; and the final day of the missing text messages — May 17, 2017 — the day that Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel of the FBI’s Russia investigation. Color me suspicious but those are kind of important time periods during which the American people ought to see the communiques of the FBI officials involved.

After all, it was Page who had been assigned as a top lawyer to Mueller’s special counsel office for the Russia investigation — a post from which she has since (rightfully) been removed.

In his own right, Strzok wasn’t just pushing papers around the FBI, either. He was the senior FBI official who signed the opening argument for the Russia investigation in July 2016, served as the second in command of the FBI’s counterintelligence division, and was the FBI agent that softened the language of the Comey memo regarding Clinton’s use of a private email server from ”grossly negligent” to “extremely careless.”

The fact that the pair was so biased is bad enough; however, the duo behaving so recklessly themselves is, in and of itself, alarming. It is grounds for both of their firings, yet both of them remain at the FBI collecting taxpayer-funded salaries and benefits.

Whatever the ending to the case of the missing text messages, one thing is now abundantly clear: Disgraceful hypocrisy at the FBI was at an all-time high during a time when integrity should have been.

Jen Kerns served as the spokeswoman for the California Republican Party. A two-time appointee of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, she went on to serve as spokeswoman and communications director for the victorious Prop. 8 campaign in California, the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, Americans for Prosperity in California, and numerous rare successful Statewide races as a Republican press secretary.




Un-flipping believable. Not new developments, but an incredible collection of the hypocrisies involved in the FBI investigation.

One outrage I just became aware of is that the FBI Strzok/Page texts were initially turned over to congressional investigators in an unreadable form. Only by using technology shared by the Department of Defense (DoD) were they able to decode them into readable form. Another example of the FBI's lack of cooperation and attempt to hide the truth about their own partisan activities.

First, they colluded to get Hillary off.

Then they colluded to destroy Trump's candidacy. ("He's not going to be president...right? RIGHT?" "No, no. We will stop him.")

Then the broader FBI didn't disclose the messages of the colluders.

Then when confronted by others outside the FBI who knew the messages existed, they finally turned them over... in unreadable encrypted form.

Then, no thanks to the FBI, congressional investigators (the Republicans among them, who actually want the truth) were with DoD technology able to un-encrypt the hidden texts.

Then the FBI said "Hey, we were just kidding! We may have hated Trump and talked about stopping him, but you can't PROVE we actually did it."

And incredibly, all these people, two years later, still have jobs at the FBI. I can't believe Peter Strzok is still receiving a paycheck.


The article also reveals that they were talking about news stories before the were even published, indicating that they were the ones who leaked them to the press. No doubt to advance the cause of their bitch queen:



Appropriately, it looks like the flag of some foreign country.

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Peter Strzok testified before Congress today for a tedious 10 hours. His annoying arrogant smirk made me and the rest of America want to smack him. It infuriates me, and many, that these people are guilty as sin, and yet defiant and arrogant about how their buddies in high positions keep them out of jail.


The hearings were a televised foodfight, where Democrats shouted over and interrupted proceedings constantly to prevent the facts from being heard. Even so, Strzok is still employed at the FBI, and STILL HAS A SECURITY CLEARANCE, unbelievably. And despite his attempts to obfuscate and lyingly imply otherwise, it was made clear over and over that FBI Inspector General Michael Horowitz clearly said in his report that Peter Strzok's texts showed such incredible bias that he had to be taken off the investigation.

I was annoyed no one asked why his investigative team gave immunity to all Hillary's aides in exchange for nothing. Or why they stood by and let Hillary and her evil minions FOR WEEKS destroy computers, cellphones and other records. And conversely made midnight arrests of Manafort and Cohen to prevent them from destroying evidence, while Hillary and friends destroyed evidence with impunity and never faced charges for it later.

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Don't speak for the rest of America please. You and other partisans can speak for yourself but that is hardly "the rest of America " as you put it. It's not a crime to not like Trump.


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No, but that hatred becomes dangerous when huge swaths of Democrats like yourself openly endorse mob rule and violation of the rule of law. You endorse burying the overwhelming evidence against Hillary, and destroying Trump by any deceitful means.
That is not equal protection under the law. I'm sure at some point polls will demonstrate that a majority of Americans think Strzok is not someone rational people want in the FBI.
He abuses his FBI power as a weapon to protect Democrats, not the law.






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I tried looking to see specifically what FBI Inspector General said about Peter Strzok and Lisa Page:


'Extraordinary' Strzok removal shows FBI agents in crosshairs from IG probe


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Strzok, who worked on both the Clinton email and Russia probes, was escorted from the FBI on Tuesday, following a referral for further investigation from DOJ IG Michael Horowitz. The watchdog, as part of his Clinton case review, found that Strzok and four other FBI employees sent “hostile” anti-Trump messages on bureau devices.

The FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility is expected to further investigate the findings against the five FBI employees.

“A referral certainly is very serious and they will investigate the accusations if it’s serious enough,” retired FBI special agent and former national spokesman John Iannarelli told Fox News Thursday. “The accusations are a violation of FBI rules.”

Iannarelli explained that FBI employees are not allowed to use bureau devices for matters other than bureau business.

“As I like to say, every FBI agent has a political opinion, we’re just not allowed to express them,” Iannarelli said. “You’re supposed to keep to yourselves and you certainly can’t let it impact your work. What we see here are individuals who disregarded this.”


So sending 100 texts a day to Lisa Page alone would be a violation. As would posting political views, particularly on a case they were working on, particularly on a case soo incredibly public and of such national significance.


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MYE, or “Midyear Exam,” was the code used in the FBI to refer to the Clinton probe.

The report noted that it was specifically concerned about text messages exchanged between FBI officials Strzok and Lisa Page that “potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations.”

Horowitz ultimately found no evidence that the bias among the several FBI agents impacted prosecutorial decisions in the Clinton email probe.

Strzok and Page, who were romantically involved, both served for a short period of time on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation team. Strzok was reassigned [within the FBI, to personnel] following the revelations of his anti-Trump texts. Page resigned last month. [Before the final IG report was released.]

But while many of those texts were made public in late 2017, the IG report revealed a new one in which Strzok vowed to "stop" Trump from becoming president -- and made clear that as many as five total FBI employees exchanged politically charged messages.


It strikes me as odd, and Democrat/FBI-favoring, that the I G would say only that their texts creat an "appearance" of impropriety, when they are openly conspiring to stop Trump from being president. (PAGE: "Trump isn't going to be president, right? RIGHT?" STRZOK: "No, no he won't. We'll stop it." And there's also the later plot to set up "An insurance policy" just in case Trump gets elected, like "just in case you die before you turn 40." )
That's way the fuck beyond just "political opinion". Clearly this is political conspiracy, not just political opinion.

These are people in very powerful FBI positions, and very coincidentally ended the Hillary investigation just in time to save her candidacy, then very opportunely opened a Trump "Russia Collusion" investigation, based on a false Russia Dossier, and used that Dossier that Comey and McCabe KNEW to be false, to open FISA surveillance warrants on Carter Page and other Trump campaign officials. They (or someone high up in the FBI) also hired Russian contract agents to approach multiple Trump officials and offer them "Russian-obtained top secret" Hillary Clinton emails (to Roger Stone, Sam Clovis, and Michael Caputo), who actually reported these offers to the FBI rather than taking the bait!

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Last week’s inspector general report largely dealt with the Justice Department and FBI’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server but uncovered numerous messages that “appeared to mix political opinion with discussions about the MYE investigation.”

MYE, or “Midyear Exam,” was the code used in the FBI to refer to the Clinton probe.

The report noted that it was specifically concerned about text messages exchanged between FBI officials Strzok and Lisa Page that “potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations.”

Horowitz ultimately found no evidence that the bias among the several FBI agents impacted prosecutorial decisions in the Clinton email probe.

Strzok and Page, who were romantically involved, both served for a short period of time on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation team. Strzok was reassigned following the revelations of his anti-Trump texts. Page resigned last month.

But while many of those texts were made public in late 2017, the IG report revealed a new one in which Strzok vowed to "stop" Trump from becoming president -- and made clear that as many as five total FBI employees exchanged politically charged messages.


Yes. So why the soft-pedal? Clearly it was conspiracy, not just "appearance of".


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The text messages and instant messages sent by these employees included statements of hostility toward then candidate Trump and statements of support for candidate Clinton," the report said.

The report also revealed instant messages between unnamed agents, which House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows suggested at a public hearing could be FBI agents Kevin Clinesmith and Sally Moyer—though neither Horowitz nor the FBI would comment on the accuracy of that speculation.

A spokesman for Meadows did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment on why Meadows cited those names.

If Strzok and others are pursued in connection with this report, Iannarelli said the FBI has an “established series of penalties,” with potential punishment for agents ranging from “censure, policing your file, to cutting off from work without pay until termination.”

“One violation is ‘lack of candor,’ during an investigation interview. That is grounds for termination and there is no exception to that,” Iannarelli said.

Former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was fired in March by Attorney General Jeff Sessions over his lack of candor when interviewed regarding an unauthorized leak of a self-serving story to the media. McCabe allegedly lied to FBI investigators and his boss, former FBI Director James Comey, though McCabe has pushed back on those findings.


A month later, and we STILL don't know who those other unnamed agents are. And no sign that they're similarly being investigated, suspended, fired or otherwise disciplined.

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Iannarelli told Fox News that Strzok’s forcible exit from the bureau was a “rare occurrence,” and that he has seen a number of FBI employees who were eventually terminated, but continued performing functions until OPR decisions were made.

“To be escorted out of the building before the OPR [Office of Professional Responsibility, FBI's internal affairs investigators]investigation is completed and a decision is rendered is fairly extraordinary,” Iannarelli said.

One former senior Justice Department official speculated on Thursday that Strzok might also be implicated in a separate inspector general’s review on the start of the Russia investigation.

“My take is that it is possible that escorting him out meant that the inspector general’s Russia investigation is going to be brutal for him,” the former official told Fox News. “If you’re the subject or mentioned by name in an OIG report, they typically show you the parts of the report that relate to you.”

The official added: “At the end of the day, one of the drafts of the next inspector general report is making its way around and the findings are alarming to the FBI.”

Horowitz on Tuesday confirmed that he is investigating whether Strzok’s anti-Trump bias factored into the launch of the FBI’s Russia investigation.

During testimony on Capitol Hill Tuesday, Horowitz acknowledged that Strzok’s text messages “clearly shows a biased state of mind.”


IG CONFIRMS HE IS REVIEWING WHETHER STRZOK'S ANTI-TRUMP BIAS IMPACTED LAUNCH OF RUSSIA PROBE


It was revealed earlier this year that Horowitz’s office was investigating allegations of government surveillance abuse tied to the start of the Russia probe. But Horowitz’s testimony this week, meant to answer questions about the conclusion of the Clinton case review, revealed some of the specifics involved in the ongoing Russia case review, including the Strzok texts.

“I can’t imagine FBI agents even suggesting that they would use their powers to investigate any candidate for office,” Horowitz said Tuesday. “I thought this was completely antithetical to the core values of the department and extremely serious.”

The former official also speculated Strzok’s escort out of the building could be related to a loss of security clearance, or even [Strzok's escort out being related to] the findings of personal texts or emails from Strzok and Page that the inspector general was not able to obtain.

But regardless of the basis for Strzok’s exit, Iannarelli told Fox News that FBI rank-and-file are “shaking their heads.”

“This is such an aberration of what the FBI stands for,” Iannarelli told Fox News. “You have a couple of people who have done these things and draw the spotlight and attention away from all of the good agents and good work being done at the FBI.”

Strzok's attorney did not respond to Fox News' request for comment but in a statement issued in response to his removal from the office earlier this week said Strzok wants to continue to serve.

"Pete has steadfastly played by the rules and respected the process, and yet he continues to be the target of unfounded personal attacks, political games and inappropriate information leaks," attorney Aitan Goelman said. "All of this seriously calls into question the impartiality of the disciplinary process, which now appears tainted by political influence. Instead of publicly calling for a long-serving FBI agent to be summarily fired, politicians should allow the disciplinary process to play out free from political pressure.

"Despite being put through a highly questionable process, Pete has complied with every FBI procedure, including being escorted from the building as part of the ongoing internal proceedings."

The report, separately, found instances of FBI employees who “improperly received benefits from reporters, including tickets to sporting events, golfing outings, drinks and meals, and admittance to nonpublic social events."

Any consequences from those perks, however, might come later. Because the gifts were outside the scope of this report, Horowitz said the watchdog "will separately report on those investigations as they are concluded."



I liked what Mollie Hemingway said on today's 6PM report. That however bad Strzok looked from his revealed text messages, he looked even worse trying to defend them before Congress in hearings yesterday.

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Lol, guilty of not liking somebody isn't a crime. More indictments rolled out today that were obviously more important than the partisan shit show the GOP had earlier. I wonder which congressional candidate was talking with the GRU? The public deserves to know.


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Oh as for your earlier speaking for America WB, your master has threatened violence at his rallies so many times that it's pretty fantastic that you only see it being the other side. For the record I don't condone violence. Neither Hillary or fat piece of shit should be above the law. If evidence rolls out either way on him he should be treated accordingly. And if Trump supporters get out of line break out the tear gas and rubber bullets.


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FBI Inspector General's Report Directly Criticized Barack Obama


How Obama repeatedly interfered with the investigation in his public statements, as reflected in e-mails and texts of DOJ and FBI officials.

As would any Trump official, or average American.


Way beyond that, it details that Obama is guilty of lying if not perjury in alleging he didn't know about Hillary's private e-mail server until he learned about it "on the news, just like everyone else."
In point of fact, Obama was one of only 13 people who communicated with Hillary Clinton on her private server (Obama doing so under a fake user-name), on some occasions when Hillary was communicating from the nation "of a sophisticated hostile adversary" (who could intercept and de-code their e-mails) with Obama. Which obviously endangered national security.

So Obama
1) lied about his knowledge of Hillary's illegal private server,
2) communicated with Hillary on her illegal server,
and
3) ENDANGERED NATIONAL SECURITY by communicating with her on her private e-mail server. One or all of which he could be indicted for.

Certainly, any sailor aboard a U.S. submarine who unwittingly took a photo out of patriotic pride in his job would be indicted and jailed for far, FAR less.

As would any Trump official, or average American.




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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Lol, guilty of not liking somebody isn't a crime. More indictments rolled out today that were obviously more important than the partisan shit show the GOP had earlier. I wonder which congressional candidate was talking with the GRU? The public deserves to know.



Indicting 12 Russian computer hackers who have never been on U.S. soil, and never will be, just so DOJ/FBI can posture tough without ever actually jailing anyone.

If they really wanted to prosecute the guilty, they could start with Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, Natalia Vesenetskaya and the others who offered bait to Trump officials that Trump officials didn't bite on, Loretta Lynch, James Holder, Sally Yates, and all the other corrupt FBI and DOJ officials who KNEW the Russia Dossier was false, but still used it to judges to get FISA warrants, and build manufactured cases against Trump officials.

They could go after the FBI/DOJ officials who deliberately threw the Hillary Clinton e-mail server case, allowed them to smash phones and computers, and gave out immunity for sinister reasons other than prosecution.

That would yield some actual results, and actual justice.
Indicting 12 anonymous people in Russia never will.

But then... justice isn't DOJ/FBI's goal is it? The only real goal is taking down Trump by any deceitful means available.
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Oh as for your earlier speaking for America WB, your master has threatened violence at his rallies so many times that it's pretty fantastic that you only see it being the other side. For the record I don't condone violence. Neither Hillary or fat piece of shit should be above the law. If evidence rolls out either way on him he should be treated accordingly. And if Trump supporters get out of line break out the tear gas and rubber bullets.



Trump made a joke and said about a DNC heckler, "Get him out of here."
And plenty of others on the Democrat side have said ALMOST EXACTLY what Trump said, about wanting to smack someone who annoyed them. Or several times in Biden's case alone, wanting to take Trump out behind the gym. You keep manufacturing the same tired accusations.

And as I pointed out the last time you raised this allegation, the guy filing suit can't even name any injuries he received. Even if the guy actually hit the heckler at the Trump rally, Trump didn't authorize the guy to hit the jerk. If he actually did.

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Snopes

He's said quite a few things and it apparently are crowd pleasers.


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Oh as for your earlier speaking for America WB, your master has threatened violence at his rallies so many times that it's pretty fantastic that you only see it being the other side. For the record I don't condone violence. Neither Hillary or fat piece of shit should be above the law. If evidence rolls out either way on him he should be treated accordingly. And if Trump supporters get out of line break out the tear gas and rubber bullets.



Trump made a joke and said about a DNC heckler, "Get him out of here."
And plenty of others on the Democrat side have said ALMOST EXACTLY what Trump said, about wanting to smack someone who annoyed them. Or several times in Biden's case alone, wanting to take Trump out behind the gym. You keep manufacturing the same tired accusations.

And as I pointed out the last time you raised this allegation, the guy filing suit can't even name any injuries he received. Even if the guy actually hit the heckler at the Trump rally, Trump didn't authorize the guy to hit the jerk. If he actually did.





As I've established with linked studies before Snopes, Factcheck and Politifact are all liberal-partisan spin sites, that 75% of the time target Republican/conservatives, and only a fraction of the time target liberals, and only for the surface APPEARANCE of balance. They're owned by liberals and reviewed and editorialized by liberals, under an obscene veil of objectivity that doesn't truly exist. As I've also cited before, they'll often take a statement that is absolutely true by Trump or some other Republican, and despite it being true, they'll make up some nuance that wasn't covered, and label it "partly true".

It's a trick of pseudo-fact, from a source that is far from neutral.


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Problem is Trump said everything they go through. Plenty of other sources verify and back up what he said publicly also in these rallies. Way to many witnesses. It's dishonest to say it didn't happen. You are not the credible source here.


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From the Politico article:

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The indictment is vague concerning the unnamed congressional campaign, saying only: “On or about August 15, 2016, the [Russian internet hacker] Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for U.S. Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate's opponent.”

At that point in the 2016 election cycle, first-time candidate Mast was embroiled in a six-way GOP primary, which he won Aug. 30 with 38 percent of the vote. He then defeated Democrat Randy Perkins in the general election.

Perry points out the campaign didn’t use some of the more vicious information it had against Perkins, and he said he was unaware of any hacking inquiries made by the campaign. He said he started after the primary and didn’t have contact with Mast’s former political consultant, Anthony Bustamante, who last year told reporters that he used hacked information from Guccifer 2.0.


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“There’s no actual information whatsoever linked to us,” said Stewart, blaming Democrats for spreading the story for political advantage in the district, one of Florida’s few congressional swing seats.

“A: It’s speculation it was [contracted political consultant]Anthony [Bustamonte]; I have no idea if that’s the case,” Stewart said. “And B: if it was him, it was 100 percent not related to our campaign at all.”



So basically, at this point it's speculation, and if it was a Republican campaign, they unknowingly bought information from a Russian hacker (Guccifer 2.0), and didn't even use the worst dirt that they could have. IF.

But the headline implies a more deliberate and malicious conspiracy.

Politico = Washington Post reporters = Trump-hating Democrat ally liberal media

This article glosses over the criminality that was exposed within the DNC at the highest level, and especially Debbi Wasserman-Bitch-Cunt-Schultz.
I'm AMAZED this woman has the nerve to remain in politics, and that the human cattle in her district still vote for her, after she rigged the 2016 primary for Hillary and against Sanders. Her being immediately hired after her forced resignation as DNC chair just highlights the shameless corruption and malice at the very heart of the DNC and Clinton campaign. But don't expect the liberal media to ever expose that.



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I think working with the GRU is going to be a problem for the GOP.


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From today's Wall Street Journal:

How Alleged Russian Hacker Teamed Up With Florida GOP Operative


I don't see any indication that what was used by the Mast campaign extends beyond Democrat grassroots "get out the vote" strategy, and a list of reliable Democrat voters, leaning-Democrat voters, and Republican voters toward that strategy. There's no top secret Hillary e-mails, there's no collaboration in Russian treason against the United States.

Until this last election, I've never heard of any past campaign being approached by Russian operatives with information. How would anyone receiving campaign strategy data even guess that it could be coming from Russians? Or in the case of Trump's 2016 campaign (not this local Florida race) that it could be the FBI sending contracted Russians as bait to entrap them? For guys like Michael Caputo, Sam Clovis, Roger Stone and Donald Trump Jr. to figure out that there could be a danger in accepting this information demonstrates they are pretty damn smart.



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That implies a lot without actually saying anything. What point are you trying to make.

What they describe as the Christian end-time prediction is something I don't think is accurate of mainstream Christianity, and that makes me question the accuracy of what they say about this secretive Christian "The Family" group. The time leading up to the Antichrist is supposed to be preceded by the Rapture, where all believing Christians are swept away to Heaven before the Tribulation begins. The Antichrist rules for 7 years, 3 and a half are prosperous, and then Hell on earth in the latter half. The Rapture is generally believed to occur before the Antichrist (or the Beast) seizes power, or before the Tribulation. Some believe the Rapture occurs later, during or after the Tribulation.


All I get out of that link is a benign prayer breakfast and diplomatic meetings are vaguelky portrayed as sinister, when it really seems benign. Persuading leaders makes them open to further evangelism in their countries. Without further detail, I fail to see that as malevolent.

The wolves and sheep thing is again vague. As a Christian, I think their vision could be seen as consistent with the parable of the prodigal son. That God is most pleased when the worst and truly lost come back to him. Like, say, an Adolf Hitler or a Saddam Hussein. Or a Vladimir Putin. Souls have to be won one at a time, it's not like just because you win the faith and support of a powerful leader all his subjects become Christian. Again, it's all pretty vague, and implying malicious intent without plainly stating it.


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I thought it said quite a bit and thought it was interesting. A little depressing too. It explains why a Russian spy would be interested in it and why what I think of traditional religious values concerning the poor and needy seem to be changing. It's less about helping and more about power.


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Assuming anything in that article is true about "The Family", let alone broader Christianity, even accepting that article's arguments as true, it makes clear that "The Family" is not representative of broader Christianity, only the secret plans of "The Family". I don't see having a private meeting between the U.S. and Russian presidents to negotiate peace without a huge public spectacle as necessarily bad. Any more than having Dennis Rodman meet with Kim Jong Un was bad. Or Jesse Jackson secretly negotiating the release of hostages. Or Ronald Reagan meeting with Pope John II to bring about the collapse of communism in Poland.

As an occasional churchgoer and occasional participant in Christian events, I've certainly seen that Christianity in the U.S. has become less WASPY and exclusive to the white middle/upper class, and much more international and multicultural, whereas in the 1970's Christianity was more in pockets of white churches, black churches, Hispanic churches, separate from Jews, and often anti-Semitic. Whereas now (you could google it) Evangelical Christians actually give more money and support to Israel than the American Jewish community.

I'm definitely not a typical Christian, but I do think I'm representative in this way, that despite not being Jewish, as a Christian I believe supporting Israel against persecution is essential for Christians, because Jews are God's chosen people and the instrument through which God gave us the Old Testament and New Testament, and through which God continues to fulfill prophecy of the End Times.
Essentially Christians are a sect of Judaism. Up until Jesus, the Bible and salvation were exclusively offered to the Jews. With the life and teachings of Jesus, it became a message and salvation offered to the entire world. And far from judgemental or elitist or racist (as "The Family" is accused of being) it is a salvation and unity offered to all. Including criminals and the enemies of Christianity. In the New Testament, Paul was imprisoned by the Romans, and realized that he was sent there to spread the gospel to the damned and lost there. Christ during his crucifixion had two other criminals on crosses right next to him, one of whom professed his faith in Christ and was saved. And again, as I cited above, God far from hating or wanting to condemn anyone, most celebrates the return and redemption of the prodigal son. Criminals, drug addicts, even enemies and murderers of Christians, as Paul was in the book of ACTS (a traditional Jewish elder who killed Christian sectarians, before his conversion), or homosexuals, are all offered salvation and welcomed back into the brotherhood of Christianity.

So it's really absurd to allege Christianity, or the sect of "The Family", is some elitist authoritarian Hitler-like group to force or trick an entire nation into Christianity as some political force. That goes against the free-will individual choice that is the core nature of Christian faith.

Christianity didn't seize authoritarian control of the country when Reagan was president. (Although it sure was portrayed that way in the liberal media!)
Christianity didn't seize authoritarian control under George W. Bush. (Who actually was a devout born-again Christian who prayed in White House meetings. But even so, I saw interviews with Christian leaders who felt used and marginalized by the Bush White House despite their strong aid in getting him elected.)
Christianity under Trump has seen restored some of their religious and political free speech rights, but is hardly seizing authoritarian control under Trump either. Trump is supportive of Christianity, and keeping his word to Christians better than Bush. But while likely being a Christian on some level, Trump is not the same kind of born-again devout guy that George W. was. Obviously Trump's lifestyle, his multiple marriages, and extramarital/adulterous affairs with women, he isn't one to make too much a show of devoutness.

If you want to whip up a scary spectre of a Christian threat, M E M, you could always point to the Westboro Baptist Church. Which has maybe 30 members last time I looked, is disowned as hateful and not Christian in spirit by any other known Christian denomination.

Or maybe the Christian Identity movement, that is basically the last remnant of the white supremacist gleichschaltung re-invention of Christianity under Nazi Germany, to make Christian religion conform with the ideology of Nazi Germany. And all the thousands of true Christians who refused to practice it were thrown in Nazi concentration camps.
A Christian Identity movement that has maybe a few hundred members in the U.S., probably all of whom are on an FBI watch list.



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Byron York, in his July 22 article for the Washington Examiner shows the language from the redacted FISA request backs up what Nunez said in his memo about it. Basically, that Christopher Steele's salacious and unreliable "Russia Dossier" was the primary, and likely the only, "evidence" that Comey and McCabe submitted for their 4 FISA requests to do surveillance on Trump officials.
(i.e., that it was deliberately fraudulent and manufactured evidence, that James Comey, Andrew McCabe, and Bruce Ohr, and wife Nellie Ohr who was directly employed by Fusion GPS and was the conduit to bring the fake evidence into the FBI, that the "Team Hillary" investigators leaped on the chance to use. )

There are now at least half a dozen ways the investigation is fraudulent and the tree of evidence is poisoned and should be evidence thrown out, that the investigation should be ended, and that the investigators themselves should be facing criminal charges and jail time.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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Reporting on FBI/DOJ's release of the first of the 4 FISA warrants on Lou Dobbs' Tuesday July 23rd broadcast, although in ridiculously redacted form, every page almost completely blacked out:


Lou Dobbs, July 21, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaQnjZCojXk



Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch gives some great commentary at the beginning of the program. On the abuse of the FISA court, the deliberate falsification of FISA evidence, the criminality of submitting false evidence to FISA judges for which the investigators can be prosecuted.
That the level of criminality in the FBI is so excessive that not just the leadership but the entire FBI hierarchy is influenced, corrupted and cannot be trusted to police and investigate itself, and needs to be purged of its criminal elements. Farrell suggests using external U.S. Marshalls to investigate.

To date, the only clear "Russia collusion" and criminality is from the Hillary Clinton campaign that financed Fusion GPS/ Christopher Steele/the Russia Dossier, and the criminality of hierarchy of the DOJ and FBI who used it as false evidence to quasi-legally (but actually illegally) spy on the Trump campaign.

CHRIS FARRELL: "The fish rots from the head down, but at some point even the rank-and-file either become negligent or complicit."

Absolutely true. If your bosses are Comey and McCabe and Ohr and Strzok and Page, and you know they want Hillary to go free and a case to be manufactured against Trump, and it's going to destroy your career to follow the evidence where it leads, what do you do?

It scares me that's the system that exists in DOJ, FBI, the State Department (one Trump official called it "occupied territory" because it is so entrenched with deep-state Democrats), and the IRS. And as we learned from the Lois Lerner corruption, that same corruption exists in other federal agencies such as ATF, EPA, and OSHA, that also targeted Tea Party leaders in collaboration with the IRS.

One can only imagine the evil these FBI/DOJ officials would be emboldened to if Hillary Clinton were president and they could sweep all this under the rug, and they had free reign to unleash federal power on anyone who even ventured to inquire about the truth.

Even with Trump as president FBI/DOJ not only falsified evidence for FISA warrants and manufactured cases against Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, George Pappadapoulos, Carter Page, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Sam Clovis and Michael Caputo, but are squeezing and extorting plea bargains out of them by bankrupting them in legal fees against manufactured charges until they take a guilty plea bargain. All just so they can smear and cripple Donald Trump as president, on clearly manufactured evidence.

It's a shakedown.

And a political coup against the president himself.






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Jesse Waters' opening editorial, from his program Saturday, July 21st.


Watters World: The Return Of Barack Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAFDEpJp9QI



Where Obama bashed Trump during a speech in Johannesburg, South Africa.

Great comments about how the media flew cover for Obama during his 8 years. As compared to how they are 90% (at least!) aligned against Trump, and how Obama attacks Trump as dangerous to the world, whereas Obama TRULY WAS dangerous and destructive to the U.S. and the world (Obama's being passive on Russian invasions in Crimea and East Ukraine, how Obama actually created the exodus of 5 million refugees from Syria by his "red line" inaction sitting on his hands, Obama invading Libya then not helping them rebuild or defend themselves from ISIS and Al Qaida, Obama giving a free pass to China's aggression and cyberhacking that costs the U.S. $600 billion a year in international theft, China's aggression toward its neighbors and building military-use islands in the South China Sea, completely unresisted by Obama).

Trump is visibly fixing these things, and is blasted for it by Obama and the media.
Obama did these things that endangered us, and the media didn't even report it.



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Apparently Cohen now says Trump was aware of the Trump tower meeting. This isn't going away anytime soon.


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CIA analyst Dr Michael Scheuer, on Obama's CIA Director John Brennan:

Dr. Michael Scheuer: It's All Coming Unravelled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9y-wmetLc


A very respected guy, to unleash such a stinging indictment of Brennan.
And really harsh comments all the way around about the Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, in how they "would bring the whole world to global thermonuclear war rather than admit Hillary lost the election."
And about the Democrat/Deep State-subservient CIA, NSA and FBI, turned under Obama "from competent organizations into Apparatchiks". Where one of the most competent intelligence officials says he no longer trusts his bosses who were appointed under Obama.


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He's a piece of garbage that suggested Obama should be assinated. I think he's respected by those that describe Obama's 2008 win as razor thin and now speak of Trump's huge electoral win. Easy pass


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Tucker Carlson in his August 1st program had some fantastic commentary about the abuse of power by DOJ/FBI and the Mueller investigators, in the Manafort and Flynn trials in particular. But also overall the politicization and weaponization of federal agencies in service of the Democrat party, akin to what is seen in authoritarian communist countries and banana republics, and the danger these institutionalized abuses present to the republic itself:




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No bias there, lol


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Feel free to be specific about what you disagree with.
The point was the partisan bias of the FBI/DOJ/Mueller investigation.

Most tax evaders, Carlson factually states, get an average sentence of 1 year and three months. Paul Manafort, who is 69, is being aggressively pursued by Andrew Weissman and Mueller investigators for 305 years, a sentence that would exceed the rest of his life.
Andrew Weissman, who was at Hillary Clinton's victory party on election night 2016, and who has made several Facebook posts that make clear his anti-Trump bias.

It is an attempt to shake down Manafort (and others) to manufacture any half-baked pretense to impeach Trump, despite no evidence to that effect. David Gergen made a telling remark a few days ago that his conversations with investigators make it clear they don't want to criminally prosecute Trump in the speculative event they get something, but instead want to immediately pursue impeachment. And their easiest and most legally abusive path to that end would be a perjury trap, where you can convict an innocent man, so long as you can pursue one other witness who says the defendant's being untruthful, or withholding some tiny part of the truth (one other witness who will "sing or compose" to keep himself out of a life sentence on manufactured charges). Which is exactly what they did to Michael Flynn. What they're doing now to Manafort. And Rick Gates, and Pappadapoulos. And Arthur Anderson (overturned by 9 of 9 justices years later, AFTER several Arthur Anderson executives had already died in prison.) And Martha Stewart. Comey, Weissman and Meuller have a lengthy history of shaking down and convicting innocent people, just so they can have a conviction.


Whatever editorial opinion or sarcasm by Tucker Carlson, his factual point is that the Meuller investigation is more interested in getting a "win" and a conviction in the cases of Manafort, and Flynn, AND TRUMP, than in actual justice. Their goal is a partisan political coup, and they're perfectly happy to ruin and convict innocent men toward that goal.


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I don't watch talking heads in general. If you got print I'll scan it and maybe comment but beyond Sunday's political shows I have no interest in republican or democrat schills. It's just funny that between posts where you attack the media for bias you post stuff from patently biased conservative sources. Does that seem principled to you at all?


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The conservative views I post are equal time, that deconstruct the liberal narrative spread across 80%-plus of the media. They point out with facts why the completely manufactured liberal narrative is blatantly untrue.

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