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Chicago teabagger organizer-goon king Steve Stevlic mysteriously went AWOL at his own TEACON lunatic festival that he put together this weekend after Gawker reported that he was arrested in 2010 for being a hooker-sex fiend who also, like all such “family values people,” compensated by screaming profusely at a Democrat sex cheater on Twitter. Neat how that “moral math” works, right? Despite having absolved himself thus, Stevlic was still a no-show at his teabagger demon circus, so from now on what we can all say about Steve Stevlic is that he loves sex with prostitutes more than he loves patriotism. Stevlic meanwhile meekly sent out a lecturing “official statement” from his hiding cave compound asking what everyone’s problem is, why care about a silly sex scandal more than “issues,” etc. Except that judging from our daily Google News homepage, sex scandals are actually the Only Issue that America cares about. So, uh, good luck with that argument, Steve!

From Patch.com:

TEACON 2011 organizer Steve Stevlic did not attend the second day of the conference he helped organize amid a report on Gawker that he was arrested for soliciting a prostitute.

The arrest occurred more than year ago in June 2010, Tea Party officials stated.

  • “My family and I dealt with this matter and we’ve successfully moved forward in our relationship,” Stevlic said in a prepared statement. “The charges surrounding this incident were dropped against me over a year ago and with all the issues we are facing in our country right now, I’m not sure why this deserves a headline.”


  • Chicago Tea Party spokesperson Eric Kohn said the issue was an “internal matter.” When asked if Stevlic had resigned from the Tea Party, Kohn had no comment.


And absolutely NONE of this reporting does anything to resolve the most important issue, which is whether this was a gay hooker or just a boring old lady hooker. AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW.




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Service providers having consensual sex with noble, heroic political leaders is nothing new.

[thread hijack] Speaking of which, where was Pro's outrage when the no-good draft dodger Bill Clinton was caught having an affair with Monica Lewinsky? [/thread hijack]

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 Originally Posted By: MisterJLA
Prostitutes having consensual sex with political leaders is nothing new.

[thread hijack] Speaking of which, where was Pro's outrage when Bill Clinton was caught having an affair with Monica Lewinsky? [/thread hijack]

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the tea party, if I understand correctly, has no true 'leaders' - anyone who's called themselves or been called one is either a convenient fall guy for the opposition or a moron with aspirations of riding a singularly decentralized (and fairly disorganized) movement.


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Ah, the self-hatred... It's Pariah all over again.
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convenient


Incredibly.


my point is that it's not really a de jure organized political party (or even a de facto one). and while one legislator's conduct shouldn't be seized upon as indicative of his entire party's morality (or at least that's what I was told for the whole weiner thing... heh), it's especially difficult in this case. not only do most people who'd admit to being adherents of the movement not point to any one 'leader', but you've got bible-thumping moral majority fundies mixed in with strident atheist libertarians and everything in between. it could (successfully) be argued that this whole hooker scandal incident establishes that the tea partier in question is in fact a typical American politician, but to take it much farther than that moves us out of the realm of reasonable conjecture.


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convenient


Incredibly.


my point is that it's not really a de jure organized political party (or even a de facto one). and while one legislator's conduct shouldn't be seized upon as indicative of his entire party's morality (or at least that's what I was told for the whole weiner thing... heh), it's especially difficult in this case. not only do most people who'd admit to being adherents of the movement not point to any one 'leader', but you've got bible-thumping moral majority fundies mixed in with strident atheist libertarians and everything in between. it could (successfully) be argued that this whole hooker scandal incident establishes that the tea partier in question is in fact a typical American politician, but to take it much farther than that moves us out of the realm of reasonable conjecture.


So, what you're saying is, because it's a side you champion it's okay to say "But, the Democrats did it first"?

Stop making excuses for the Extremist Right, Phil. Wondy will have that covered. Go be a daddy!

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convenient


Incredibly.


my point is that it's not really a de jure organized political party (or even a de facto one). and while one legislator's conduct shouldn't be seized upon as indicative of his entire party's morality (or at least that's what I was told for the whole weiner thing... heh), it's especially difficult in this case. not only do most people who'd admit to being adherents of the movement not point to any one 'leader', but you've got bible-thumping moral majority fundies mixed in with strident atheist libertarians and everything in between. it could (successfully) be argued that this whole hooker scandal incident establishes that the tea partier in question is in fact a typical American politician, but to take it much farther than that moves us out of the realm of reasonable conjecture.


You forgot the liberal orthodoxy, that any conservative's moral failings are an unpardonable sin that absolutely must end their career, and forever stain the reputation of the people he represents.

And that any liberal who is found guilty of the same scandal is to be downplayed and dismissed as insignificant, their personal choice, that is separate from their political life. And any conservative media who dares to point out their unethical actions is a white racist hatemonger bigoted evil nazi goose-stepping to right wing extremist conservative talking points! (just ask Pro)

Get with the program, Mister!



The only consistent element of the Tea Party, as I've said prior, is:
1) a push to reign in deficit spending and make our government financially solvent again.
2) make our government responsive to the will of the people again.

The Left's obsession is with branding the Tea Party (just ask Pro) as an ignorant inbred uniformly religious fundamentalist group who wants to ban abortion, establish a state Christian religion that everyone in America is forced to attend, re-establish slavery, lynch all black people (despite that it's only liberal SEIU thugs who are beating up black Tea Party members) and basically push our culture back to 1865.

Contrary to what even liberal statisticians like Gallup have proven the Tea Party to actually be: demographicaally and socially identical to the rest of America.

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So, what you're saying is, because it's a side you champion it's okay to say "But, the Democrats did it first"? Stop making excuses for the Extremist Right, Phil. Wondy will have that covered.


that's not what I was saying at all. I was mentioning what I heard during the weiner scandal as a counterargument (I didn't say I disagreed with it) that parties (of any level of organization) shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of individual politicians - especially when those actions had nothing to do with the actual process of lawmaking or anything else to do with their actual job. it's just as true for one as the other. no one's making excuses for anyone; I just wanna make sure we're all on the same page here.

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You forgot the Tea Party orthodoxy, that any Liberal's moral failings are an unpardonable sin that absolutely must end their career, and forever stain the reputation of the people he represents.

And that any conservative who is found guilty of the same scandal is to be downplayed and dismissed as insignificant, their personal choice, that is separate from their political life. And any Liberal media who dares to point out their unethical actions is a white racist hatemonger bigot apoplectic evil nazi goose-stepping to left wing extremist Liberal talking points! (just ask me)

Get with the program, Mister!



The only consistent element of the Tea Party, as I've said prior, is:
1) a push for white supremacy.
2) make our government responsive to the will of the Tea Party, and the Tea Party alone. Cause this is OUR country!

The Right's obsession is with branding the Tea Party (just ask me) as an ignorant inbred uniformly religious fundamentalist group who wants to ban abortion, establish a state Christian religion that everyone in America is forced to attend, re-establish slavery, lynch all black people (despite that it's only Republican Klan thugs who are beating up black protestors, and basically push our culture back to 1865.

Contrary to what even conservative statisticians have tried to prove, the Tea Party turns out to actually be: socially identical to a fictional, anglo-saxon version of Klan America.


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 Originally Posted By: Sammitch
that parties... shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of individual politicians - especially when those actions had nothing to do with the actual process of lawmaking or anything else to do with their actual job. it's just as true for one as the other. no one's making excuses for anyone


Shouldn't be.
But we all know that's not the reality.

We all know which side is given cover and a free pass by a media that is 80% liberal.

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What I actually wrote:
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You forgot the liberal orthodoxy, that any conservative's moral failings are an unpardonable sin that absolutely must end their career, and forever stain the reputation of the people he represents.

And that any liberal who is found guilty of the same scandal is to be downplayed and dismissed as insignificant, their personal choice, that is separate from their political life. And any conservative media who dares to point out their unethical actions is a white racist hatemonger bigoted evil nazi goose-stepping to right wing extremist conservative talking points! (just ask Pro)

Get with the program, Mister!



The only consistent element of the Tea Party, as I've said prior, is:
1) a push to reign in deficit spending and make our government financially solvent again.
2) make our government responsive to the will of the people again.

The Left's obsession is with branding the Tea Party (just ask Pro) as an ignorant inbred uniformly religious fundamentalist group who wants to ban abortion, establish a state Christian religion that everyone in America is forced to attend, re-establish slavery, lynch all black people (despite that it's only liberal SEIU thugs who are beating up black Tea Party members) and basically push our culture back to 1865.

Contrary to what even liberal statisticians like Gallup have proven the Tea Party to actually be: demographically and socially identical to the rest of America.



Pro's demented twisting of it:

 Originally Posted By: Prometheus, paraphrasing WB in full slander mode
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
You forgot the Tea Party orthodoxy, that any Liberal's moral failings are an unpardonable sin that absolutely must end their career, and forever stain the reputation of the people he represents.

And that any conservative who is found guilty of the same scandal is to be downplayed and dismissed as insignificant, their personal choice, that is separate from their political life. And any Liberal media who dares to point out their unethical actions is a white racist hatemonger bigot apoplectic evil nazi goose-stepping to left wing extremist Liberal talking points! (just ask me)

Get with the program, Mister!



The only consistent element of the Tea Party, as I've said prior, is:
1) a push for white supremacy.
2) make our government responsive to the will of the Tea Party, and the Tea Party alone. Cause this is OUR country!

The Right's obsession is with branding the Tea Party (just ask me) as an ignorant inbred uniformly religious fundamentalist group who wants to ban abortion, establish a state Christian religion that everyone in America is forced to attend, re-establish slavery, lynch all black people (despite that it's only Republican Klan thugs who are beating up black protestors, and basically push our culture back to 1865.

Contrary to what even conservative statisticians have tried to prove, the Tea Party turns out to actually be: socially identical to a fictional, anglo-saxon version of Klan America.


Agreed!!


You have no basis for your klan-view of the Tea Party, beyond your own prejudices.

Statistics of a liberal polling group, among other studies of the Tea party posted by myself and others, clearly establish that.

Do you ever get tired, Pro, of not only being wrong on the facts, but being a vicious liar as well?

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I have no basis for my conspiracy-view of the Democratic party, beyond my own prejudices.

Statistics of a FOXNews polling group, among other studies of Liberals posted by myself and others, clearly establish that.

Do you ever get tired, Pro, of not only being dead-right on the facts, but being a visionary as well?


Not really, no. It's my gift.

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
the tea party, if I understand correctly, has no true 'leaders' - anyone who's called themselves or been called one is either a convenient fall guy for the opposition or a moron with aspirations of riding a singularly decentralized (and fairly disorganized) movement.


They can have spokespersons though, can't they?

Glenn Beck makes me miss the time when Bill O'Reilly was the main Republican pundit. Would O'Reilly say something dumbfucked like this, I ask you all:

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2011 Norway attacks

In the wake of the 2011 Norway attacks, Beck received condemnation for his comparison of murdered and surviving members of the Norwegian Workers' Youth League to the Hitler Youth. He said, "There was a shooting at a political camp which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler Youth or whatever, you know what I mean. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."[196] The statement was ill-received in Norway, leading senior political commentator Frank Aarebrot to label Beck as a "vulgar propagandist" and a "fascist",[197] and Torbjørn Eriksen, former press secretary to Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg, to describe Beck's comment as "a new low", adding that "Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful".[198] Commentators pointed out that groups affiliated with the Tea Party movement and the Beck-founded 9-12 Project also sponsor politically oriented camp programs for children.[198][199][200][201][202] Beck condemned the attack in spite of his statements about its victims.[203]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck#2011_Norway_attacks


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No, because even Bill O'Reilly has SOME level of moral integrity. Beck's a sleazebag one step away from a tiny Hitler mustache...

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
I have no basis for my conspiracy-view of the Democratic party, beyond my own prejudices.

Statistics of a FOXNews polling group, among other studies of Liberals posted by myself and others, clearly establish that.

Do you ever get tired, Pro, of not only being dead-right on the facts, but being a visionary as well?


Not really, no. It's my gift.

And in choosing consistent and deliberate deceit, you lose your right to be taken seriously.

Gallup is not a "Fox News polling group".
That is a clear lie.

It scares me that you, and millions like you, vote based on your clear distotions and prejudices, rather than on the facts.



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    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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the tea party, if I understand correctly, has no true 'leaders' - anyone who's called themselves or been called one is either a convenient fall guy for the opposition or a moron with aspirations of riding a singularly decentralized (and fairly disorganized) movement.


They can have spokespersons though, can't they?

Glenn Beck makes me miss the time when Bill O'Reilly was the main Republican pundit. Would O'Reilly say something dumbfucked like this, I ask you all:

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2011 Norway attacks

In the wake of the 2011 Norway attacks, Beck received condemnation for his comparison of murdered and surviving members of the Norwegian Workers' Youth League to the Hitler Youth. He said, "There was a shooting at a political camp which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler Youth or whatever, you know what I mean. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."[196] The statement was ill-received in Norway, leading senior political commentator Frank Aarebrot to label Beck as a "vulgar propagandist" and a "fascist",[197] and Torbjørn Eriksen, former press secretary to Norway's prime minister Jens Stoltenberg, to describe Beck's comment as "a new low", adding that "Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful".[198] Commentators pointed out that groups affiliated with the Tea Party movement and the Beck-founded 9-12 Project also sponsor politically oriented camp programs for children.[198][199][200][201][202] Beck condemned the attack in spite of his statements about its victims.[203]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck#2011_Norway_attacks


I doubt you've ever even listened to Glenn Beck, except as soundbyted to a selectively ridiculous context on MSNBC or MediaMatters, or some other liberal blog.
Mental baby food spoon-fed to the most fully indoctrinated liberals.



On the above Norway/Hitler Youth remark, I won't defend Beck for making a poorly thought out analogy, in an admittedly stupid remark.

Beck has a three-hour radio program, in addition to his TV program. Both liberals and conservatives who are in front of the cameras (or mikes) that many hours a day, are going to occasionally say some dumb stuff.
Nazi comparisons, from either the Left or the Right to describe opponents, are inherently dramatic.

This much is true: it was a party outing, and the people at that picnic were all far-left liberals, who by all accounts would have risen to key positions of leadership in their party in the course of their lives and careers, if not killed. Beck was making a point about the political nature of the organization and its meeting before interrupted by gunfire. The Hitler Youth remark undermined his point and was an embarrassing reach on his part.

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I'm also not surprised that politicians of a decidedly liberal Norwegian government, that has arbitrarily given Nobel Prizes to guys like Al Gore and Barack Obama for basically doing nothing but showing up, would leap at the opportunity to attack a conservative figure like Glenn Beck.

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I doubt you've ever even listened to Glenn Beck, except as soundbyted to a selectively ridiculous context on MSNBC or MediaMatters, or some other liberal blog.
Mental baby food spoon-fed to the most fully indoctrinated liberals.


You...uh....DO realize he's not American...right? \:lol\: Moron.

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Buuuut....

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I'm also not surprised that politicians of a decidedly liberal Norwegian government, that has arbitrarily given Nobel Prizes to guys like Al Gore and Barack Obama for basically doing nothing but showing up, would leap at the opportunity to attack a conservative figure like Glenn Beck.




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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
I doubt you've ever even listened to Glenn Beck, except as soundbyted to a selectively ridiculous context on MSNBC or MediaMatters, or some other liberal blog.
Mental baby food spoon-fed to the most fully indoctrinated liberals.


You...uh....DO realize he's not American...right? \:lol\: Moron.



What the heck kind of disinformation are you babbling?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

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Glenn Edward Lee Beck (born February 10, 1964) is an American conservative radio host, vlogger, author, entrepreneur, political commentator and former television host


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Glenn Edward Lee Beck was born in Everett, Washington, to William and Mary Beck, who lived in Mountlake Terrace, Washington at the time of their son's birth.[12] The family later moved to Mount Vernon, Washington,[13] where they owned and operated City Bakery in the downtown area.[14] He is descended from German immigrants who came to the United States in the 1800s.[15] Beck was raised as a Roman Catholic and attended Immaculate Conception Catholic School in Mount Vernon.


American born, American raised.




And I didn't defend Beck's remark.
Regardless of the motives of decidedly liberal Norwegian politicians who hand out Nobel Prizes to Gore and Obama like Pez candy, a dumb Hitler Youth analogy remark by Beck is still a dumb remark, and I labelled it as such.

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Look! A graemlin! From Pro!

Yeah. Pro just poops them out all day long.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
I doubt you've ever even listened to Glenn Beck, except as soundbyted to a selectively ridiculous context on MSNBC or MediaMatters, or some other liberal blog.
Mental baby food spoon-fed to the most fully indoctrinated liberals.


You...uh....DO realize he's not American...right? \:lol\: Moron.



What the heck kind of disinformation are you babbling?


CAPTAIN SWEDEN genius! Not Beck. You quoted Captain Sweden and went apeshit on him. Or, did you not even notice and think it was me? \:lol\:

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 Originally Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
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Look! A graemlin! From Pro!

Yeah. Pro just poops them out all day long.


I find pictures help the slower people here understand when I get over their head...

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
CAPTAIN SWEDEN genius! Not Beck. You quoted Captain Sweden and went apeshit on him. Or, did you not even notice and think it was me? \:lol\:


I happen to like Captain Sweden, and was responding to the question, not his American or non-American status. I certainly have known for all the years he's posted here he's from Sweden, and wasn't blowing up on him as you mischaracterize, just responding to the issues raised.

Congratulations on manufacturing another non-issue and wasting everyone's time.

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I just re-read the what I responded to, and I did get a little testy to Captain Sweden. But I stand by my remarks, whether in the U.S. or overseas, I'm sure the way it was reported by the Norwegian press or Norwegian politicians, they exploited it to get in their digs.

That's no insult to Captain Sweden, that's no doubt the way the media reported it, and probably all he was exposed to.
I recall Robert Kagan (appearing on Charlie Rose) in 2003, who had just returned from several weeks in Europe, discussed how in the U.S. you heard both defense and criticism of U.S. military action in Iraq. But that Europeans overwhelmingly opposed the Iraq war because a counterpoint defending U.S. action is never voiced in the European press!
Likewise, I'm sure, when Beck is covered in a decidedly socialist-liberal state that, as I said, arbitrarily hands out Nobel prizes to the most liberal American politicians for what even many Europeans said didn't warrant the awards. The political leanings of those who leap to attack Beck, on either side of the Atlantic, are quite clear.


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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
CAPTAIN SWEDEN genius! Not Beck. You quoted Captain Sweden and went apeshit on him. Or, did you not even notice and think it was me? \:lol\:


Yeah, I got in a hurry and thought I was responding to you. He sounded like Liberal Scum and I wanted to make him feel bad for his belief system. Sorry! I meant to hate you, not him. My bad.


No worries. It happens sometimes when we post a lot. Just try and take deep breaths. Don't let it fluster you. Pay attention to what you are doing, be calm, and your voice will still be heard...

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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
But I stand by my remarks, whether in the U.S. or overseas, I'm sure the way it was reported by the Norwegian press or Norwegian politicians, they exploited it to get in their digs.


You're sure? Sure-sure? Really, really sure? As in, you have absolute, irrefutable proof-sure? Or are you just biased and make knee-jerk emotional overreactions to other people not believing in your universal perspective? The latter, I'd say. And you would too, if you had the capacity to be honest with yourself...

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Europeans overwhelmingly opposed the Iraq war because


...it was illegal, unsanctioned, immoral, crafted by the military-industrial complex to secure billions in war contracts and steal oil from the Middle East? Agreed!

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The political leanings of those who leap to attack Beck, on either side of the Atlantic, are quite clear.


As are his sheep. "BAH", for me Dave. Show me you still care... \:lol\:


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