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since we seem to enjoy slapping labels on each other so often in this forum, I thought it'd be helpful to find some sort of external resource by which we might actually be able to quantitatively assess where exactly we really do fit into the political spectrum. this has been attempted in this forum before; however, navigating through older posts to try and unearth previous discussions is basically strolling through a shitstorm museum, so I'll attempt to start fresh here. I found three separate quizzes on three separate sites that each use a two-axis (at least) model rather than the simple single-axis "left/right" bullshit that's always irritated me. all three quizzes seem to date from the last presidential election and could probably use an overhaul in the areas of economic intervention and gay rights, but thus far they're the least awful political alignment quizzes I've been able to find. 1.) the political compass: looks like its last major overhaul was for the 2008 general elections, but to their credit the developers of this site claim they're trying to stick to a bigger picture - and a more international focus - despite election-to-election shifts of platforms and ideologies within the US. as such, they might come across to posters here as a little left of center (they seemed to strike me that way), but it's a nice conversation starter to see where you fall on a more global map of political opinion. visually it seems the least confusing of the three as well, which is nice. my results:  2.) politopia: created by the institute for humane studies at george mason, this particular quiz seems to concentrate a little more on civil liberties and the social axis than on economic matters, which isn't too surprising given the source. all the same, it's a nice change of pace from other political alignment measurement systems, at least visually. (social intervention increases with x, economic intervention increases with y - almost the mirror image of the previous site!) as with the other two, david nolan's work forms the basis of the axes of alignment, but each 'region' (nine, rather than the four quadrants as above) receives even-handed treatment in its description and list of 'residents'. my results:  3.) world's smallest political quiz: created by advocates for self-government, this quiz has a decidedly more libertarian bent to it but still manages to treat each sector of its political spectrum objectively. this time around there are five regions, basically adding a 'centrist' catch-all to the four quadrants of the first political spectrum chart. the quiz itself has been updated since 1995 and didn't seem too unrealistic, though in order to accomplish this it felt like the questions had to be made a little more vague. my results:  all of which tells me I am slightly to the right of center and somewhere between libertarian and conservative, which doesn't really surprise me all that much. anyway, you guys should take at least one of these - you might be surprised how close together a lot of you really are.
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I did take the Politopia quiz two-three years ago; I should perhaps do it again to see if I've changed.
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I took the politopia quiz and this is the result I got: 
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I took the politopia quiz and this is the result I got: clearly a filthy liberal pinko!
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Responses from last time.
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thanks. I wonder how much the tests have been edited in the last 2 years. I also wonder how many of us have changed our minds about a few things in that span of time.
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also, since a lot of people questioned the structure of the first political compass quiz in that other thread, I thought it'd be helpful to link to the other two in case people like their results more.
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Took all 3 for the heck of it, my results-    Yeah....
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[img]http://www.theadvocates.org/images/bd/quiz/red_dots/100_100.gif?1319160719[/img]
[img]http://www.politopia.com/image.php?P1=9&E1=11[/img]
[img]http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=2.62&soc=-3.49[/img]
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Apparently, it didn't work to just copy and paste the pics. Anyway, results were 100% libertarian on world's smallest political quiz. The Northwest on Politopia and 2.62 (economic) and -3.49 social on the compass. You can copy and paste the image address to see 'em. To be clear on Politopia, my star is almost right over the w in Northwest. Compared to last time, I'm just becoming more and more an anarchist. 
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I guess I'm Liberal.  http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz_result?e=10&i=60_10.gif&p=60
Liberals usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
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I did take the Politopia quiz two-three years ago; I should perhaps do it again to see if I've changed. Centerville-You would feel most at home in Centerville, which means that you are more or less pleased the status quo-you think the US government has just about the right amount of control over your economic and personal decisions. Your neighbors include democratic and republican party leaders and others who call themselves "moderates" and "centrists." Not different from last time. Your PERSONAL issues Score is 30%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 40%
According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...
Centrist prefer a "middle ground" regarding government control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention and sometimes support individual freedom of choice. Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind, tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.
"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller
"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
-Conan the Barbarian
"Well, yeah."
-Jason E. Perkins
"If I had a dime for every time Pariah was right about something I'd owe twenty cents."
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I'm still pretty much in the Ghandi spot that I was in last time. The shorter test put me as a left leaning centrist.
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   NW-You would feel most at home in the Northwest region. You advocate a large degree of economic and personal freedom. Your neighbors include folks like Ayn Rand, Jesse Ventura, Milton Friedman, and Drew Carey, and may refer to themselves as "classical liberals," "libertarians," "market liberals," "old whigs," "objectivists," "propertarians," "agorists," or "anarcho-capitalist."  Looks like I'm a Dalai Lama Libertarian. Who knew?
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Phil's having a hard time believing it, as well...
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I had you pegged for a commie for sure!
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actually I was trying to gather everyone's data to compile a master chart and plot all the usual posters on it eventually.
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Sounds like something old Director Hoover would do. You're not secretly cross-dressing dear Captain Sammitch?
"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller
"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
-Conan the Barbarian
"Well, yeah."
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"If I had a dime for every time Pariah was right about something I'd owe twenty cents."
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Sammitch's love for cross-dressing is not a secret
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"My friends have always been the best of me." -Doctor Who
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so it was actually more like our little secret. for a while. 
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Loth--I mean, Wonder Boy, should take the test...
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one of the quizzes pegged me as a Libertarian, which is complete bull because I hate books!
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No, that means you like fucking Librarians...
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Incidentally, J. Edgar Hoover was a librarian too.
"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller
"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
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"Well, yeah."
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"If I had a dime for every time Pariah was right about something I'd owe twenty cents."
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Wow. Ever so slightly center-right. (However reliable the test is.) 3) http://www.theadvocates.org/images/bd/quiz/red_dots/70_70.gif?1319160719Apparently I'm more libertarian than I gave myself credit for. In the last 10 years, I've come to see foreign military action as less necessary and having further consequences than intended, I've seen a few police and public officials abuse their authority (while most I respect as dedicated) and therefore am less trusting of government and police to always do the right thing. And I've seen that private funding (as opposed to federal funding) tends to make our institutions more responsive to the will of the people. So in these respects I can see the shift to a more libertarian position to be correct. Not that Pro or the other liberal nutjobs here would ever acknowledge that. (edited several times to take and add the 3 tests)
- from Do Racists have lower IQ's...
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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