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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I’m not for gulags but

Oh my.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Having electors picked by republicans to choose Trump over Biden would be throwing my vote and everyone else’s out. Trump hasn’t presented anything that has stood up in a court of law. Trump’s Barr just chimed in to say there was no evidence that would have changed the outcome. Meanwhile election officials are getting death threats and harassed by trumpers if they don’t like what they hear. Trump eggs his base on with even people from his legal team calling for deadly violence for those that won’t help him steal the election. So you that’s the side you are on.


No, it would be throwing out hundreds of thousands of illegal votes where YOUR PARTY CHEATED and maliciously and fraudulently entered illegal votes. The evidence is overwhelming:

  • Votes flipped IN THE THOUSANDS on Dominion voting systems from Trump to Biden, to give Biden and illegal victory.

    Votes IN THE THOUSANDS on flash-drives that were not counted "in error" or "a glitch", that somehow ALWAYS are errors that favor Biden and take votes away from Trump.

    An estimated 1.9 million dead voters who somehow rose from their graves across all 50 states to vote for Biden. Over 21,000 (that have been detected) in Pennsylvania alone. Over 9,500 (that have been detected) in Michigan alone.

    Votes IN THE THOUSANDS of people who have been contacted by phone and verified they never requested a ballot, and never submitted the ballot that was submitted in their name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_Integrity_Fund

    Votes IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS in all the contested states where Biden is the only candidate selected on a ballot, no down-ballot candidates selected. That's because Trump was winning by such large margins that the 3% vote-shift the Dominion computer algorithms were manipulating the actual totals to create were not enough to overcome Trump's lead. At which point in multiple states they stopped the vote-counting, so the Dems could calculate how many manual fake ballots they had to create to overcome and exceed Trump's lead in the votes. They did not have time to fill out the whole ballot, so they only selected Biden on those ballots. 450,000 alone created in Pennsylvania. Maria Bartiromo in my earlier Youtube clip (while interviewing lawyer Sidney Powell) details the exact numbers of these in each of the contested states.

    Hundreds of districts with super-inflated voter participation as compared to previous elections, many having over 100% voter participation, more votes than there are people!

    Does anyone REALLY BELEIVE that Joe Biden got 11 million more votes that Barack Obama? That Donald Trump got 10 million more votes than in 2016, and yet still lost to Biden? A detailed analysis will show that in many of these precincts, it was physically impossible for Bien to have gotten these votes, because the people and the eligible voters don't exist to make that possible. That the midnight votes added increased at a faster rate than the voting machines could have physically counted them. It's a fake, it's a fraud.


Add to that how dominion employees, clearly with something to hide are covering their tracks, deleting their self-incriminating Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn accounts and posts.

How Dominion is suddenly moving its offices to hide that it shares office space with Soros-linked organizations.

How Dominion employees, pretty much all of them, try to hide their ideological fanaticism and support of Antifa, their ties to the Clinton Foundation, ties to Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff, ties to Diane Feinstein's husband who is large a Dominion shareholder. That Kamala Harris' photographer is a Dominion technician who helped rig the vote in an Atlanta suburb district on Nov 3rd, and is still in that position to do the same in the upcoming Senate runoff election in January!

You're such a partisan liar, M E M.
What part of these *FACTS* do you not understand? The evidence is overwhelming. Your only option is to pretend the evidence doesn't exist.

General McInerny, a retires Air Force general, and the assistant chief of staff of the joint chiefs (and an expert on counter-intelligence and marxist insurrections) says this is no less than a coup by the radical Left to overthrow the United States government, and that if necessary Trump should declare a national emergency to prevent that from occurring. It took Al Gore 37 days to pursue his legal options in Nov-Dec 2000 in just one contested state of Florida. And yet Trump is expected to do the same in at least 6 contested states, or be forced from office. He could declare a national emergency and stay in power until a full investigation and legal process can be allowed to play out.

Right now, I'm watching the Michigan state Senate hearings on election fraud for the last two hours or so on OAN, with witness poll observers from election day, a Colonel who is an expert on insurrection and election fraud, other experts at detecting computer and corporate fraud, an IT specialist, and of course Giuliani and his lawyers.

I've similarly watched on OAN hours of similar hearings in Philadelphia and Phoenix. The evidence is overwhelming, if you would just listen to it. But you would instead rather just repeat the lying talking points of your corrupt piece-of-shit Bolshevik-Democrat party.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...or-martial-law/ar-BB1bzBd2?ocid=msedgntp

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‘When the Bombs Go Off, the Blood Is on Mike Flynn’s Hands’: Retired Officers Blast His Calls for Martial Law


Less than a week after receiving a presidential pardon for lying to the FBI, Mike Flynn is pushing a call for martial law—and drawing sharp denunciation from other retired senior military officers.

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Flynn, who was Trump’s first national security adviser and before that his most important military validator, circulated a petition for martial law in a Tuesday tweet. “Freedom never kneels except for God,” Flynn commented.

The petition, from a Tea Party affiliate named Tom Zawistowski, implored Trump to proclaim “limited martial law” and order the military to conduct a do-over of the presidential election so as to reflect what it claims is “the true will of the people.” It explicitly envisioned “temporarily suspend[ing] the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections.” And it also reflects a recent rise in desperation from MAGA now that Trump’s efforts at overturning the election have fallen apart in multiple courtrooms.

The petition even compared America’s bloodiest conflict to the current Trumpist inability to cope with an election loss. “Today, the current threat to our United States by the international and domestic socialist/communist left is much more serious than anything Lincoln or our nation has faced in its history—including the civil war,” it reads.

But the petition suggested that unless Trump is installed for another term, his supporters would engage in violence. “Without a fair vote, we fear, with good reason, the threat of a shooting civil war is imminent,” it asserted.

The nutters in the Trump cult doubling down on the insanity.

Here's a good temper tantrum from Bone Spurs...




Another member of the "conspiracy" speaks out...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/politics/georgia-election-trump.html

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ATLANTA — In one of the most striking rebukes to President Trump since he launched his baseless attacks on the American electoral process, a top-ranking Georgia election official lashed out at the president on Tuesday for failing to condemn threats of violence against people overseeing the voting system in his state.

“It has to stop,” Gabriel Sterling, a Republican and Georgia’s voting system implementation manager, said at an afternoon news conference at the state Capitol, his voice shaking with emotion. “Mr. President, you have not condemned these actions or this language.”

He added: “This is elections. This is the backbone of democracy, and all of you who have not said a damn word are complicit in this. It’s too much.”

Mr. Sterling’s outburst of anger and frustration came amid a sustained assault on Georgia’s election process by Mr. Trump as he seeks to reverse his loss to his Democratic rival, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. Mr. Sterling, who previously said he had received threats himself, said that threats had also been made against the wife of his superior, Brad Raffensperger, the Republican secretary of state.



Trump cultists are so far gone it's sad.

It was sad to me up till they started their pathetic attempt to steal my vote. A wounded dying animal can be the most dangerous. Props to the truly brave republicans who are putting country above their party and getting death threats along with their families.


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You mean the spineless RINO Republican turncoats who, like the Jewish guards at Auschwitz, were willing to collaborate with their captors and turn on their own so they could stay alive a little longer.

That punk elections supervisor weasel in Georgia, who looks like Roger Ebert in the video, is so full of shit with his idiot posturing. I've seen him interviewed for weeks. He whines about threats against Democrats (threats I don't support) and ignores HOW TRUMP SUPPORTERS HAVEACTUALLY BEEN ATTACKED EVERY DAY SINCE TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT! One of the deposed witnesses for Giuliani was beaten up and is in the hospital now. Pretty much every witness has been threatened. EVEN TRUMP'S LAWYERS have been threatened, some of them intimidated to the point that they resigned as counsel. Facts you don't want to acknowledge, M E M.

Alleged threats against Democrat officials.
vs. ACTUAL violence on a mass scale against Trump supporters.

The Democrat-Bolsheviks (and **NOT** just a fringe in the Democrat party, but many in the mainstream of the Democrat party, including several 2020 presidential candidates) openly advocate and cheer on purges of Republicans, of violence and intimidation of Republicans, even depriving them of the ability to ever work again. Black Lives Matter protestors routinely attack Republicans, and at some marches even carry guillotines and effigy severed heads. The worst threats of Republicans pale beside what Democrats haave done FOR OVER FOUR YEARS!

I myself experienced this on the job, where a female client on the job, 32 years old, who railed on and on with her politics for 45 minutes in her session with me in 2016 just before the election, how evil Trump and his supporters are. I played it neutral saying "Yeah, that crazy election, politics..." and evaded giving an opinion. She finally cornered me and said "Well pardon me, but... I get the impression you support Trump... do you?"
And I finally said "Well... yeah!"
She went wild, shouting "HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BLA BLA BLA!" So I politely and briefly explained that I saw Trump as a guy who had been both a Democrat and a Republican, a non-partisan, a business owner who understands economics and international trade, a reformer who could clean out the corruption on both sides. She thanked me at the end of our meeting for sharing a point of view different from her own, annoyed but polite, and I thought that was it. The next day, I find out she called my boss, and complained and tried to get me fired, JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T SHARE HER POINT OF VIEW! I explained that this girl railed for 45 minutes where I hid my views, and only expressed my political views when she basically demanded it, and then tried to destroy me with it. My boss laughed it off, and just told me these are crazy times and she'd dealt with similar situations, that suddenly there is no longer a way you can deal with Democrats like this who become unhinged, and the only way is to avoid political discussion. Now I just respond to clients who rant politics: "Oh really, I didn't know that, I don't follow politics...." feigning complete ignorance and indifference. It's the only way. Any political discussion at all makes these wack jobs go wild. And I know firsthand, if you don't agree with them, they want to destroy you. When I'm not at work, I freely express my opinions, but not on the job. For 20 years I could have friendly playful discussions on the subject, wheter people agreed with my views or not, no problem. But not anymore.

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One more thing about "it has to stop" (which is really just a call for Trump to give up his legal right to contest the fraudulent rigging of the election by Democrats.) The calls for violence come from one side, the Democrat side, and have come from one side FOR YEARS. And it has been endorsed from the very top of the Democrat party, FOR YEARS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting
2017, a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer tried to kill multiple Republican congressmen. And was cheered on by some prominent reporters and Democrat leaders, who cheered on MORE shootings of Republicans!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
In August 2017, Wikipedia's liberal bias has redirected the thesis of it, but it was a Democrat mayor, an entirely Democrat city council and Democrat city police force, who deliberately did not separate protestors, and set the stage for violence by pushing the 200 or so white supremacists off their advance-permitted protest zone for giving speeches. And armored Virginia state police [Democrat governor!] pushed them (captured on video, I posted it to that topic) right into a mob of about 10,000 Antifa, who hurled rocks and glass and bags of urine at them, and pelted them with clubs as they were forced to struggle through the mob for two miles with absolutely no police protection. Not to mention the 2,000 or so veterans and retired police who were NOT white supremacists, who had to endure the same treatment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2019_Lincoln_Memorial_confrontation
Threats against Covington Catholic high school kids, who did nothing wrong, other than being white,Christian and wearing Trump hats. After multiple lawsuits against CNN and other liberal media, Nicholas Sandmann is now a very rich kid. Threats so sever the entire Covington school was closed for a few weeks.


Not to mention previous attacks and violence at speaking events for many years prior at booksignings and at college speaking appearances of Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, Milo Yiannopoulos, David Petraeus, ALL by the Democrat/Left, that go back way before Trump even became a candidate in 2015. I recall it beginning to form with the Occupy Wall Street movement and Antifa attacking a World Economic conference in the Seattle area, both around 2010, and continuing to build from there.

The point being: the violence is not caused by Trump. All this is organized violence by the Democrat/Left, and rationalizes Trump, capitalism, "the one percent", racism, climate change, or whatever contrivance they can wedge in, somehow is the rationalization for it. Democrats, both grassroots groups like BLM and Antifa, and the mainstream Democrat party leadership itself, use violence to intimidate their opposition, and manufature the excuse for their violence by whatever contrivance.

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Even Barr who has been a reliable wing man for Trump has said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the results of the presidential election. The claims of voter fraud by Trump have constantly failed in courts with republican judges even some appointed by Trump himself. I think it’s pretty clear trump is lying with his claims and drives his nutjobs to try to force election officials to do his bidding. Your Auschwitz vs Georgia republicans comparison doesn’t even make sense. Those people were doing whatever they could to survive the nazis that were in power. Trump is the one in power till January and it’s his fanatical base that is harassing and threatening members of Trump’s own party. You can’t deflect that. You are actually the turncoat choosing Trump over your country. It will never be okay that you were for throwing away my vote and god knows what else trump comes up with before his term ends.


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Link - Zerohedge: CCTV Video Of Georgia Poll Workers Sparks Election Fraud Outrage

  • Disturbing election night footage has emerged showing Georgia poll workers waiting for observers and news outlets to leave State Farm Arena in Atlanta after calling an end to counting for the night, before pulling out several large suitcases containing ballots from under a table.

    The footage, presented by an attorney working with Republicans during a Thursday state Senate hearing, is perhaps the strongest direct evidence of potential fraud, and demands serious inquiry. In it, a handful of poll workers can clearly be seen staying behind after GOP observers say they were told to clear out. After the media packs up their belongings, the workers can be seen pulling out the suitcases and opening them at approximately 11 p.m.

    Of note, earlier in the day, counting was paused for approximately 90 minutes due to what officials blamed on a 'water main break' - which turned out to be a lie, and was in fact a 'slow leak,' according to news.com.au.

    Here are two segments of the clip, which we recommend watching on full screen (as well as watching the full video):

    First, watch the media in the lower-right quadrant at the long table at 10:40 p.m. [...] Second, watch what happens roughly 20 minutes later:



    And so we ask; if this isn't election fraud, what is it? We're sure Snopes will say they were having a midnight snack, but people have questions.

    Link - Twitter: "From today’s hearing at the State Capitol. Not sure why Twitter has labeled this “disputed.” It is video from the surveillance camera at State Farm Arena where Fulton County election workers scanned ballots late into the night after falsely announcing they were shutting down."

    Link - Twitter: "Footage of State Farm Arena in #Atlanta shows that after poll monitors and media were told counting was done, four workers stayed behind to count #ballots, at times pulling out suitcases containing ballots from underneath desks."


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Even Barr who has been a reliable wing man for Trump has said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the results of the presidential election.

And Barr has in response been blasted by dozens of Republicans and pundits, for ignoing the obvious evidence. Barr has made such a statement without having the DOJ or FBI look at one piece of evidence. I think Barr is cowering in anticipation of a post-Trump Washington, where the Bolshviks on the Left have been clear about wanting to destroy every former Trump official, once the protection of a Trump presidency is gone.

Barr has also been slow about investigating the clear criminal actions of the Obama White House, of the FBI (Comey, McCabe, Sally Yates, and at least 20 others), of the DOJ (Bruce and Nellie Ohr, Rod Rosenstein), CIA (John Brennan, Gina Haspe)l, and DNI (James Clapper), and others, particularly as documented by Sally Yates in her notes after a Jan 5 2017 Oval Office meeting, discussing their plot to fraame Michael Flynn, led by Obama and Biden.

Barr has allowed the Durham investigation to slowly drift away without consequence, despite overwhelming evidence, when it should have been out at least 3 to 6 months before the Nov 3 election. Barr, like many in the Trump administration, is loyal to Trump at times, and then suddenly only loyal to his own interests.


Originally Posted by M E M
The claims of voter fraud by Trump have constantly failed in courts with republican judges even some appointed by Trump himself.

That's the lying Democrat narrative you would like to sell.
Giuliani has only presented 3 cases so far. And while I think one was ruled against Trump by a Trump-appointed judge, the majority of rulings against Trump have been by Democrat judges. The Pennsylvania court is 5 Democrats vs 2 Republicans. And there are mountains more evidence on the table now than just 2 weeks ago, thousands of witnesses, photographs, video evidence, the only thing working against Trump is the deadline factor. The evidence continues to pile up in his favor.


Originally Posted by M E M
I think it’s pretty clear trump is lying with his claims and drives his nutjobs to try to force election officials to do his bidding.

That is, of course, the MediaMatters liberal talking points narrative you've been spoon-fed. As opposed to the true facts, that abundantly demonstrate election fraud. There are more Biden votes than there are voters in many districts.
Tens of thousands of dead voters.
People who voted for Biden using the names of other voters, and deprived them of the ability to vote.
Thousands of people coming from other states with fake addresses to vote in AZ, NV, GA and other states.

The massive fraud on the Dominion computer systems, and Eric Coomer, its head of security systems saying in an online Antifa Zoom-meeting "Trump won't win, I made fucking sure of that". Extensive far-left, Antifa, Clinton Foundation, Nancy Pelosi, and Sen Diane Feinstein connections by Dominion and its employees, who (consciousness of guilt) have scrubbed their business and personal social mediaaccounts from the internet .

Your saying there's no evidence doesn't magically make all that overwhelming evidence just go away.

In many states, if the proven fraudulent votes are thrown out, that would be enough to give Trump vitcory margins comparable to what he had on election night. He only needs 3 of the 7 states (including Nevada which is now back in play) to get over the 270 elector votes line.


Originally Posted by M E M
Your Auschwitz vs Georgia republicans comparison doesn’t even make sense. Those people were doing whatever they could to survive the nazis that were in power. Trump is the one in power till January and it’s his fanatical base that is harassing and threatening members of Trump’s own party. You can’t deflect that. You are actually the turncoat choosing Trump over your country. It will never be okay that you were for throwing away my vote and god knows what else trump comes up with before his term ends.

That's some pretty twisted facts and logic on your part. The Republicans I compare to Jewish guards at Auschwitz are ones who are looking ahead to a fanatic Democrat/Biden autoritarian state, who want to distance themselves from Trump before the Democrat-Bolsheviks seize federal power. And as I've cited repeatedly, multiple Democrats have expressed their bloodlust for a purge of Republicans, particularly those who supported Trump.

And as I said before, it's OVERWHELMINGY THE DEMOCRATS who are are not only making threats, but actually ACTING on those threats, violently. there has been an average of two attacks on Republicans daily by Democrats. One of those witnesses testifying in hearings in support of Trump, just an honest citizen exposing the evidence, was put in the hospital in the last few days. Yours is the side of BLM and Antifa and mob violence and intimidation, Republicans with few exceptions look to the courts and the rule of law. It is only the absolute lack of consequences for Democrat lawbreaakerss that makes some even think of violent retribution.

And fuck you, M E M, I'm not a "turncoat". You're supporting a Bolshevik marxist revolution that has made clear it plans to overthrow Constitutional freedoms, who have openly said they plan to stack the U.S. Supreme Court and lower court with leftist judges, stack the Senate by making fake new states out of Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico (neither of which qualifies as a new state), eliminating the filibuster in the Senate, and otherwise silencing all political dissent, to turn this country into another Cuba or Soviet Union. If it's bad for America, your piece of shit Democrat-Bolshevik party is for it. Yours is the party of the globalists and crushing American sovereignty. Yours is the party of de-funding the police, while simultaneously taking aways citizens' guns so they can't defend themselves!
I'm not speculating, these are the things Demcorats have CLEARLY SAID they plan to do. Yours is the party that hates this country so much, they are tearing down statues nationwideof our nation's founders and heroes. Or openly endorsing it.
If you had an ounce of common sense you would be terrified of the party you mindlessly support. Because once they finish off Republicans and the conservative media, they'll be coming after any Democrats who aren't pure enough in their Bolshevism. They will do to this country what the Soviets, Cuba and Hugo Chavez did to their countries. And like those in Cuba and Venezuela, you'll be so hungry you'll be looking for scraps to eat out of a dumpster.

Trump is the first president of either party in over 30 years who has resurrected our economy and national sovereignty, and pulled us away from globalism and the Marxism and chaos you seem to love. Trump has re-negotiated trade agreements in our nation's favor with every major U.S. trading partner, secured our border, rebuilt our military, and given us the best economy we've had in over 50 years, in many categories, the best economic performance our country has ever seen. Strangled Iran's aggression with punishing sanctions. Trump has contained and reversed China's aggression and our dependence on China. One year of Biden would destroy all those gains.

If you had an ounce of common sense, you would see that YOU are the "turncoat", who would cheer on Biden's selling us all out to China. As he has for the past 15 years.

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Link - GatewayPundit: Gen. Flynn: E...d Tires Slashed, House Broken Into Twice

  • Former National Security Advisor to President Trump Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn (U.S. Army ret.) spoke on Thursday about the price being paid by Americans speaking out about fraud and irregularities in the recent presidential election, saying that one was hospitalized in the intensive care unit while others have had tires slashed, their home broken into twice or been forced to move.

    Flynn, who is a client of attorney Sidney Powell and is helping investigate the fraud allegations surrounding the election, spoke to Lou Dobbs via phone on the Fox Business Network to talk about his pardon by President Trump in the corrupt Russia collusion hoax investigation and about the American people’s crisis in confidence in the election and national institutions.

    "“…[...] I’m aware of people who are witnesses, one of whom is in ICU, another woman who’s had her house broken into twice, another woman who’s had her tires slashed, [...]multiple threats to people’s lives, certainly to their job losses. I mean that, I mean, [...] woman up in Michigan talked about that yesterday, she had to move, change her phone number, she’s got two children, I mean geez. So, we cannot have that.

    And, I have, I have at least one example, and, and it’s actually more than that but I’ll just–you know, one example of someone going to the FBI reporting what is clearly a crime and then never hearing back from them. [...] I’m telling you we cannot have that in this country in this crisis that we are going through right now.”


    Sidney Powell said Monday night on Hannity that a witness had been hospitalized after a beating. Presumably this is the same witness Flynn said is in the ICU.

    “They’re gonna lose their job. Their lives have been threatened. Uh, one witness we know of got beaten up and is in the hospital. There have been all kinds of repercussions against people who have come forward to tell the truth. And no, Democrats don’t like whistleblowers, they only like liars who claim they’re whistleblowers.”

    The video clip of Powell’s remarks was posted with a heavy dose of snark by a Daily Beast reporter:

    Link - Twitter: "This is just sad. Hannity takes Sidney Powell at her word that her witnesses can't come forward "without certain protections in place" and that they "require confidentiality" because their "lives have been threatened" and one has been 'beaten up and is in the hospital.'"

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Thanks. I was just about to post Trump's speech.

You bet.

Watching Bone Spurs cry for 45 minutes was almost as funny as:

Originally Posted by Pariah
Trump will win in a landslide both in the popular vote and the electoral college.


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Watch Senator Parent lose her shit when as she tries to explain away the footage:



Someone's nervous.

I love how she tries to repetitiously use the phrase "debunked for weeks" and regurgitates the yarn of "where's your evidence" when it's right in front of her accompanied by sworn affidavits.

Does anyone know if there's a phrase for someone constantly saying "where's your evidence?" even though it's been put right in front of him? It's clear that the Demmy's have been using that as a first and last line of defense since they know that the mainstream news will quote that specific statement, and no other, as a means of deteriorating the case for claims of voter fraud solely on the virtue of their criticism.

There was a good Twitter response to her silliness: "The story was “debunked” when they thought a video proving the story didnt exist. Now they’ve shifted positions again, admitting all the impropriety in front of your eyes exist while trying to explain it’s actually well and proper because the very people accused say so."

Clearly, Parent was relying on the insinuation that "debunked" refers to something finalized--and typically it does. Unless of course, in actuality, it wasn't.

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Originally Posted by MisterJLA
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Thanks. I was just about to post Trump's speech.

You bet.

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Link - GatewayPundit: Gen. Flynn: E...d Tires Slashed, House Broken Into Twice

  • Former National Security Advisor to President Trump Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn (U.S. Army ret.) spoke on Thursday about the price being paid by Americans speaking out about fraud and irregularities in the recent presidential election, saying that one was hospitalized in the intensive care unit while others have had tires slashed, their home broken into twice or been forced to move.

    Flynn, who is a client of attorney Sidney Powell and is helping investigate the fraud allegations surrounding the election, spoke to Lou Dobbs via phone on the Fox Business Network to talk about his pardon by President Trump in the corrupt Russia collusion hoax investigation and about the American people’s crisis in confidence in the election and national institutions.

    "“…[...] I’m aware of people who are witnesses, one of whom is in ICU, another woman who’s had her house broken into twice, another woman who’s had her tires slashed, [...]multiple threats to people’s lives, certainly to their job losses. I mean that, I mean, [...] woman up in Michigan talked about that yesterday, she had to move, change her phone number, she’s got two children, I mean geez. So, we cannot have that.

    And, I have, I have at least one example, and, and it’s actually more than that but I’ll just–you know, one example of someone going to the FBI reporting what is clearly a crime and then never hearing back from them. [...] I’m telling you we cannot have that in this country in this crisis that we are going through right now.”


    Sidney Powell said Monday night on Hannity that a witness had been hospitalized after a beating. Presumably this is the same witness Flynn said is in the ICU.

    “They’re gonna lose their job. Their lives have been threatened. Uh, one witness we know of got beaten up and is in the hospital. There have been all kinds of repercussions against people who have come forward to tell the truth. And no, Democrats don’t like whistleblowers, they only like liars who claim they’re whistleblowers.”

    The video clip of Powell’s remarks was posted with a heavy dose of snark by a Daily Beast reporter:

    Link - Twitter: "This is just sad. Hannity takes Sidney Powell at her word that her witnesses can't come forward "without certain protections in place" and that they "require confidentiality" because their "lives have been threatened" and one has been 'beaten up and is in the hospital.'"


That was on Lou Dobbs Tonight last night (Thursday, Dec 3 2020). It was Flynn's first interview since he was pardoned by President Trump.

And now, just a day later, another appellate judge is giving Judge Emmett Sullivan the opportunity to challenge President Trump's pardon of Flynn, after four years of completely unjustified malicious prosecution of Flynn for nothing more than FBI-manufactured perjury traps. So it's not only elections fraud whistleblowers who are exposed to this lawlessness and intimidation, but highly placed people like Michael Flynn. The message is clear: OBEY, and if you don't obey, we'll destroy you, we'll make your life a living hell.

Originally Posted by General Michael Flynn, On Lou Dobbs Tonight, Dec 2, 2020
"“…[...] I’m aware of people who are witnesses, one of whom is in ICU, another woman who’s had her house broken into twice, another woman who’s had her tires slashed, [...]multiple threats to people’s lives, certainly to their job losses. I mean that, I mean, [...] woman up in Michigan talked about that yesterday, she had to move, change her phone number, she’s got two children, I mean geez. So, we cannot have that.

And, I have, I have at least one example, and, and it’s actually more than that but I’ll just–you know, one example of someone going to the FBI reporting what is clearly a crime and then never hearing back from them. [...] I’m telling you we cannot have that in this country in this crisis that we are going through right now.”

These witnesses mentioned were in the Giuliani hearings with Michigan state House Oversight Committee members, on Wednesday, Dec 2nd:




And the Democrat state Senators on that panel, like the grassroots leftists attacking and threatening these witnesses, in hearings were similarly unhinged snots who lashed out at these witnesses with no impulse control, trying to threaten and intimidate witnesses, and clearly trying to sweep the clear fraud under a rug, completely uninterested in the true facts, or protection of these witnesses. Of particular interest is the testimony of the India-born female I T company CEO, (at 1:55 into the video) an the retired military Colonel (starting at 2:35 into the video) with an expertise in information warfare, and the statistical impossibilities he cites, as well as the Venezuelan and other foreign origins of the Dominion systems and software, and the built-in system vulnerabilities that were designed with built-in back doors for hacking and election-rigging, are things the Democrat Bolsheviks on the committe didn't want to hear. But the facts were presented, regardless.


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Thanks. I was just about to post Trump's speech.

You bet.

Watching Bone Spurs cry for 45 minutes was almost as funny as:

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Trump will win in a landslide both in the popular vote and the electoral college.

I can’t watch him anymore. So glad the turd is getting flushed in January and his whining is already fading.


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You should watch it. Funny stuff, watching a grown man throw a 45 minute temper tantrum.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-legal-defeats/ar-BB1bDQv0?ocid=msedgntp


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Trump campaign files election lawsuit in Georgia, suffers more legal defeats

Trump's team and various individuals backing him have suffered a string of legal defeats around the country, including in cases filed in Nevada and Wisconsin that sought court orders to reverse those states' election results.

President-elect Biden won the election with 306 Electoral College votes - against the 270 required - to Trump's 232.

A district judge in Nevada on Friday dismissed a case brought by would-be Republican presidential electors and said they must pay defendants' legal costs after failing "to meet their burden to provide credible and relevant evidence to substantiate" any of the lawsuit's claims.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court in a 4-3 decision declined to act on a case that sought to have the court nullify the presidential election in the state and pave the way for the state legislature to choose Wisconsin's 10 presidential electors.

"Such a move would appear to be unprecedented in American history," Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Brian Hagedorn wrote in his concurring opinion of four justices issued on Friday.

Trump's campaign has spent nearly $9 million on its unsuccessful bid to overturn the results of the election, including nearly $2.3 million to lawyers and consultants.



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I think you're referring to Trump's speech about the election you posted earlier.



While not Trump's best speech, I don't see anything wrong with it. He still gave a serviceable overview of the evidence that there is blatant vote-rigging on Nov 3rd by Democrats, multiple streams of massive election-rigging by Democrats. And how just looking at how many thousands rose from the dead to vote Democrat, how many thousands came across state lines to vote under fake addresses for Democrats, how many thousands of Republicans had their votes stolen and someone else voted in their name with a requested absentee ballot to an alternate address, and all the twisted ways Democrat Bolsheviks rigged the votes inside the polling centers themselves, on and on.

There are many districts where there were so many fake votes, either by using fake mail ballots or by manipulating thousands of votes at a time on the Dominion voting systems on computer, that there is way over 80% voter participation in many districts, or even 100%, 120% and 130% participation!
Also, the country went overwhelmingly for Trump, except in a few key Democrat-controlled urban areas (Phoenix, Albequerque, Milwaukee, Detroit, Pittsburg, Philadelphia, Atlanta), where in the middle of the night all of a sudden while there were no vote observers, these cities had an impossible spike in votes for Biden, that in many cases can be proven to be impossible relative to the population in these areas, and impossible in the speed these votes were processed, that exceeds the speed votes can be entered on these machines.



Now this one, on the other hand....



... is frigging hilarious, how unhinged and apoplectic the guy is. I think the big tough Georgia elections supervisor is a widdle upset and he's going to cwy !

As I pointed out before, he's so upset about threats to Democrat officials, but isn't at all concerned about Republicans who have been threatened AND PHYSICALLY ATTACKED, FOR YEARS, or upset about the whislteblowers who have exposed election fraud who have been put through hell , been doxed, had their homes broken into, been threatened, and will probably lose their jobs, just for doing the right thing. A lot more courageous than widdle Roger Ebert here.

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Trumpers are not just issuing death threats and harassing democrats connected to the election WB. Republican and their families are also getting them if they don’t say or do what Trump really wants. Even one of Trump’s lawyers issued a call to have that cyber security head put to death for saying this election was a secure one. Trump also fired him. You really want a coup and hold onto power no matter what. This guy you’re making fun of is really being really brave and trying to protect his people no matter their political affiliation.


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In a pair of stinging rebukes, one from a conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court justice and the other from a federal judge President Donald Trump appointed, two courts Friday balked at efforts by Trump and his supporters to toss out the results of the presidential election in the state and have the Legislature decide the winner.

This is the greatest thread EVAR.


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This is the greatest thread EVAR.

Indeed it is.

The purple shirted woman from the 'hidden ballots' video, who's name is Ruby, apparently posted her own video about her future escapade and how she was going to be working pretty hard that night. Except, it wasn't just that night apparently...



Link - GWP: NEW VIDEO Shows Anti-Trump Georgia Ballot Counter Ruby Freeman with Piles of Ballots


  • [Linked Image from thegatewaypundit.com]
    Georgia ballot counter Ruby Freeman with daughter Wandrea “Shaye” Moss

    Earlier on Thursday Cristina Laila reported on the explosive video that was revealed during the Georgia ballot counting at the State Farm Arena where crooked Democrats pulled out suitcases full of ballots and began counting those ballots without election monitors in the room.

    Trump’s legal team showed a video from the State Farm Arena tabulation center when poll workers were told to leave at 10:25 PM.

    A few “workers” stayed behind and were seen pulling suitcases full of ballots out from under tables to be tabulated!

    This was the most explosive video of the entire campaign season!

    We identified one of the operatives last night who was caught on video counting illegal ballots from a suitcase stashed under a table!
    As you can see from the video one woman in a purple top was filmed helping pull out the ballots and then sitting down to count the ballots.

    One woman in a local news video was wearing a purple top.
    She later appeared in the suitcase video!

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    Her name is Ruby Freeman.

    And she made the mistake of advertising her purse on her desk the same night she was involved in voter fraud on a MASSIVE SCALE.

    Her T-shirt says “Lady Ruby” and her purse says, “LaRuby” which is her company.
    This was not a very smart move.

    Her company is called “LaRuby’s Unique Treasures.”

    Ruby’s purse was a hit and several fans wrote her on her LinkedIn page after they saw her and her purse on TV.
    They then commented on her LinkedIn page.

    Ruby Freeman still has an active Facebook page (it was taken down Friday AM).

    On her page Ruby Freeman brags about her “Shaye” being her supervisor.
    It is clear from a video that was released that Shaye and Ruby are very close.

    Here are a few entries from Ruby’s Facebook page.

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    And here is a closeup of the woman in question via a Getty image.
    Her official name is “Wandrea Moss.”

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    Now there is video of Ruby Freeman filming herself entering the building to count Georgia ballots.

    Ruby walks by several boxes of ballots just sitting around in the room.

    The elections workers were each given their own secret cube.

    Then Ruby goes to her desk and pulls out a tray of ballots on her desk.
    There is NO supervisor or GOP observer anywhere in sight.

    [Linked Image from thegatewaypundit.com]

    And then Ruby leaves the ballots on her desk as she goes to take a break.

    This is criminal activity. The State Farm Center was full of unsecure ballots and criminal conduct.

    Link - Twitter: More Ruby Freedman videos on the lead up.



On Bitchute, someone also made the observation that the ballots she was working with didn't have return addresses. Trying to confirm that.

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Of course, while the citizens fight for their rights and voter integrity, MEM, Sammitch, and friends are still busy with voter intimidation.

Link - CitizenFreePress: Melissa Carone Testifies on Voter Fraud

  • Melissa Carone, the IT specialist I reported on earlier, testifies that she is receiving death threats; has lost family and friends; changed her phone number; got off social media; moved; can’t get a job; all because Democrats like to ruin people’s lives, including President Trump. Video is queued to that spot, only about a minute and a half; the rest of the video has some good details into the fraud, as well.


Mainstream media is going after Carone HARD, giving her the Bachmann treatment: "She's female and and she's speaking up for Trump? She's hysterical! SHE'S A CRAZY DRUNKARD!!"

I would expect nothing less of the left.

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You don’t have the right to steal an election Pariah. Glad your cult leader can’t force his own party either at the local level or in the judiciary to win by coup. This would be a different story if all this “evidence “ could withstand any scrutiny in the courts but it’s failed to do so. Even Barr knows it’s over.

I do hate evil and those that would betray our country.


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Neither the Georgia nor the Pennsylvania legislatures are being forced to call for decertification. They're doing so on the merits of common sense after the evidence has been revealed for all to see.

Not surprisingly you're avoiding speaking about it like the plague.

Which again begs the question:

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Does anyone know if there's a phrase for someone constantly saying "where's your evidence?" even though it's been put right in front of him? It's clear that the Demmy's have been using that as a first and last line of defense since they know that the mainstream news will quote that specific statement, and no other, as a means of deteriorating the case for claims of voter fraud solely on the virtue of their criticism.

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Of course, while the citizens fight for their rights and voter integrity, MEM, Sammitch, and friends are still busy with voter intimidation.

Link - CitizenFreePress: Melissa Carone Testifies on Voter Fraud

  • Melissa Carone, the IT specialist I reported on earlier, testifies that she is receiving death threats; has lost family and friends; changed her phone number; got off social media; moved; can’t get a job; all because Democrats like to ruin people’s lives, including President Trump. Video is queued to that spot, only about a minute and a half; the rest of the video has some good details into the fraud, as well.


Mainstream media is going after Carone HARD, giving her the Bachmann treatment: "She's female and and she's speaking up for Trump? She's hysterical! SHE'S A CRAZY DRUNKARD!!"

I would expect nothing less of the left.

She came off as a nut job and not very credible. Nothing needs to be added other than watching her talk to form that opinion. Nobody should be getting death threats though.


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Pariah the Legal Beagle should pass his insights to Rudy and the rest of Trump's legal team. After having over 40 cases tossed out of court, methinks they could use some help.





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Actually, I'd say Ruby is the "star witness" at this point.

Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
She came off as a nut job and not very credible. Nothing needs to be added other than watching her talk to form that opinion. Nobody should be getting death threats though.

I'm more interested in her sworn affidavit than a mainstream narrative.

Beyond that however, I'm less inclined to take your word on who comes off as credible after you argued in favor of Rachel Jeantel's value as a witness.

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Actually, I'd say Ruby is the "star witness" at this point.

Actually, I'd say your prediction gets funnier the more time goes on...


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...erturn-election-rusty-bowers/3839579001/

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PHOENIX – Republican Speaker of the Arizona House of Representatives Rusty Bowers said Friday that pleas from some GOP lawmakers to overturn the results of the state's presidential election are illegal and "cannot and will not" happen.

Republican state Reps. Mark Finchem and Kelly Townsend spent much of the day imploring their fellow legislators on social media to overturn the election results in favor of President Donald Trump.

Bowers said such action would be both illegal and inappropriate.

"As a conservative Republican, I don’t like the results of the presidential election," Bowers said in a prepared statement. "I voted for President Trump and worked hard to reelect him. But I cannot and will not entertain a suggestion that we violate current law to change the outcome of a certified election."

Also...


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The Washington Post has reported that Trump has collected more than $200 million in campaign donations after he lost the national election as supporters cling to hopes that the election can be reversed through the courts or state legislatures. The campaign sent more than 500 email pleas for cash since the election that often, if not always, repeat misleading claims the election was stolen, according to the Post.

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It's a pure and simple fact that the legislature has ultimate authority to call elections in Pennsylvania, and that Pennsylvaniaa's piece-of-shit secretary of state violate that state's laws when she signed an executive order to allow mail-in ballots to be counted many days after the Nov 3rd election date. And also a violation of Pennsylvania state law for the governor to rubber-stamp that illegal executive order. I've seen multiple legal scholars, including Alan Dershowitz, say they think Trump will inevitably win that part of the battle in court, if not the state';s electoral votes as well.

Likewise, the law gives ultimate authority to the legislaature in Georgia. (I'm not sure about the laws in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan, but at the very least Republicans control the state legislators ig not the governor seats in many of these states, and at least can demand a full investigation in each state. )
And again: Where the hell is the FBI? Where is the DOJ, in what appears to be the most compromised election in U.S. history? Clearly hundreds of thousands of ballots in question, in each of these states. (I can answer that: about 97% of campaign donations by FBI employees went to the Biden campaign, and likewise to the Hillary and Obama campaigns before them. DOJ and FBI, and USPS and Stae Dept and the Teacher unions, are Democrat-occupied territory, and a corrupt arm of the Democrat Bolshevik machine.

I don't understand the timidity of some PA and GA legislators not to use the authority legally available to them, to overturn a clearly rigged election. Thousands of sworn witnesses, photo and video evidence. Not only for Republican legislators to do what is right in this election, but to set a precedent to keep the piece-of-shit Democrat Bolsheviks from doing the same in every future election. They may have been rigging elections back to 2008. They sure as hell were doing it in 2012 and 2016. An unholy Democrat alliance among the Democrat party, the Democrat deep-state ffederal agencies, the Democrat deep-state intelligence community across FBI, CIA, DIA, FISA court and NSC, the Democrat-zealot 93% anti-Trump liberal media, and the Orwellian Democrat tech and social media, along with globalists and billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Jeff Bezos, and Google that controls over 90% of online information searches. This is how a nation dies.

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OVER 50% of DEMOCRAT CAMPAIGN DONATIONS ARE COMING FROM... UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...from--and-its-bad-news-for-dems-n2576113


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The conservative group Take Back Action Fund is sounding the alarm on millions of political donations made to former Vice President Joe Biden's presidential campaign. According to the group, more than half of the 2019 contributions Biden received on the Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue came from unemployed people, Fox News reported. That number has increased in 2020, particularly in light of the pandemic.

The organization decided to look at data from 2019, before the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic, to get a better idea of what donations were like at a time when the unemployment rate was relatively low – around four percent. Last year, 48.4 percent of ActBlue's donations were from "unemployed."

"After downloading hundreds of millions of [dollars in] donations to the Take Back Action Fund servers, we were shocked to see that almost half of the donations to ActBlue in 2019 claimed to be unemployed individuals," Take Back Action Fund's president, John Pudner, told Fox News. "The name of employers must be disclosed when making political donations, but more than 4.7 million donations came from people who claimed they did not have an employer. Those 4.7 million donations totaled $346 million ActBlue raised and sent to liberal causes."

The numbers are ticking upwards as 2020 continues on, with more than 50 percent of donations coming through ActBlue being gifted by those who are unemployed.

Data from WinRed, the Republican Party's version of ActBlue, the number of unemployed people who made donations to President Donald Trump sat at four percent. This year the number is 5.6 percent


Data from the Take Back Action Fund showed that a VERY high percentage of unemployed people donated to the Biden campaign pic.twitter.com/bnbVXeoBrH
— Beth Baumann (@eb454) September 13, 2020
Pudner took particular issue with ActBlue's lack of verification, something he says could be foreign contributions, which are illegal.

"It is hard to believe that at a time when the U.S. unemployment rate was less than 4 percent, that unemployed people had $346 million dollars to send to ActBlue for liberal causes," he said.

Of particular concern is that "4.7 million donations from people without a job," Pudner said.

According to Take Back Action Fund, ActBlue allows unverified credit cards to be used for donations. This can create a loophole, something that was seen in 2008. People would buy prepaid gift cards and use those gift cards to make their donations. It was a way for donors to skirt donation limits. But, Pudner believes foreign entities could use this loophole to directly meddle in America's presidential elections.

"Auditing these suspect donations to determine if millions lied by indicating they were unemployed when in fact they were not, or if their names were just being used by a foreign programmer or someone else to move money without their knowledge, will take time," Pudner explained. "We've planned a series of forensic procedures to identify whether or not these donors of record exist or not, if they made the contributions themselves, and whether they were legally able, and whether or not they are potential 'straw' donors, making the contributions after being given the money and direction by someone else."

ActBlue has repeatedly defended their practices, saying they use third parties to verify their system. The company did, however, acknowledge "a significant portion of donors who report their status as not employed" but attributed those numbers to being "retired donors or full-time parents."

Pudner says donation platforms like ActBlue can switch their system within a couple of hours so it's more secure and banks have to verify the transaction is from a real life human being and someone in the United States of America.

"Choosing to use an untraceable system has a higher cost in terms of the risk of credit card fraud and also tends to incur higher bank fees. And this untraceable system allows someone with a gift card to make donations in anyone's name, even if that person never actually made that donation, or even if that person doesn't exist at all," he explained.

Even though Democrats repeatedly hammer President Trump for so-called "Russian collusion" – even though that was debunked by one of their own – we shouldn't be surprised that they fail to secure their donation platform. If they were truly concerned about election meddling, particularly by foreign nations, they would do everything in their power to make sure all donations are verified and no one could skirt donation laws. This is an easy way to keep elections from being influenced by outsiders. And yet they do nothing.


Hmmm....


That sounds like money laundered from wealthy backers, possibly from foreign sources like China or Russia or globalists, set up to look like small credit card donations, to funnel hundreds of millions into the DNC to fund leftist/progressive candidates and causes.


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From the Michigan hearings, you can't laugh off this one:

Full Hima Kolanagireddy testimony before Michigan House alleging election fraud - Dec 2 2020



Who is very articulate and an I T expert and company CEO, Hima Kolanagireddy.



And regarding Melissa Carone, for whatever personality quirks that CNN likes to make fun of, is also an I T contract employee for Dominion, who saw more behind the scenes in the Detroit center's ballot counts AND Dominion's employees and business culture than anyone else testifying. I loved the part where some Democrat snot named Rep. Darren Camilleri was verbally abusing and trying to discredit her, and she goes "Did you sign a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury? Guess what, I did!" and really put the snot in his place. Carone was a bit feisty, sarcastic and confrontational, and a few times speculated about things she did not see firsthand, but that was after she was treated with a complete lack of respect by Democrat House members. And her more cocky remarks should be viewed in that context. That does not discredit the facts she presented.

The other hearings have largely been just Republican state representatives asking questions, but the Detroit hearing (that I linked earlier, the full 4 hours and 30 minutes) was unique in that Democrat legislators attended. And it was clear in their insults and their complete lack of intellectual curiosity or inquiry that they don't give a damn what the facts are, they just want to politically discredit their opposition, and rubber-stamp a corrupt win for Joe Biden. They demonstrated themselves to be completely driven by emotion and ideological zeal, and to be one in spirit with the Antifa-like Democrat thugs in the voting centers who were shouting down Republican and independent vote observers, and cheering when they were thrown out of the voting room.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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It's a pure and simple fact that the legislature has ultimate authority to call elections in Pennsylvania, and that Pennsylvaniaa's piece-of-shit secretary of state violate that state's laws when she signed an executive order to allow mail-in ballots to be counted many days after the Nov 3rd election date. And also a violation of Pennsylvania state law for the governor to rubber-stamp that illegal executive order. I've seen multiple legal scholars, including Alan Dershowitz, say they think Trump will inevitably win that part of the battle in court, if not the state';s electoral votes as well.

Likewise, the law gives ultimate authority to the legislaature in Georgia. (I'm not sure about the laws in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan, but at the very least Republicans control the state legislators ig not the governor seats in many of these states, and at least can demand a full investigation in each state. )
And again: Where the hell is the FBI? Where is the DOJ, in what appears to be the most compromised election in U.S. history? Clearly hundreds of thousands of ballots in question, in each of these states. (I can answer that: about 97% of campaign donations by FBI employees went to the Biden campaign, and likewise to the Hillary and Obama campaigns before them. DOJ and FBI, and USPS and Stae Dept and the Teacher unions, are Democrat-occupied territory, and a corrupt arm of the Democrat Bolshevik machine.

I don't understand the timidity of some PA and GA legislators not to use the authority legally available to them, to overturn a clearly rigged election. Thousands of sworn witnesses, photo and video evidence. Not only for Republican legislators to do what is right in this election, but to set a precedent to keep the piece-of-shit Democrat Bolsheviks from doing the same in every future election. They may have been rigging elections back to 2008. They sure as hell were doing it in 2012 and 2016. An unholy Democrat alliance among the Democrat party, the Democrat deep-state ffederal agencies, the Democrat deep-state intelligence community across FBI, CIA, DIA, FISA court and NSC, the Democrat-zealot 93% anti-Trump liberal media, and the Orwellian Democrat tech and social media, along with globalists and billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Jeff Bezos, and Google that controls over 90% of online information searches. This is how a nation dies.

This is why you are a turncoat WB. You want to disenfranchise everyone to keep a lying corrupt piece of shit in power. The state legislature would have to break election laws that they passed to do your evil anti democratic coup....


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The letter, released Thursday, reiterated the GOP leaders’ legal concerns.

“Some of the actions requested by our residents would require us to disregard the statutes and Constitution we have fought so hard to protect during this pandemic,” the letter states.

Along with Cutler and Corman, it was signed by Senate Majority Leader Kim Ward, of Westmoreland County, and House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, of Centre County.

Specifically, GOP leadership cited state law, which mandates that voters, not legislators, pick a presidential winner. Also, they argued that the state constitution does not allow for the General Assembly to meet before January absent an invitation from Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat.

“Ignoring these state laws to appoint electors would :set a precedent that a simple majority of the General Assembly can override the will of the people as evidenced by the popular vote,” the letter says.


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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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Ha! Savage!



Link - Zerohedge: Alito Moves Up Deadline For Supreme Court Briefing In Pennsylvania Case, Bringing Within 'Safe Harbor' Window To Intervene

  • Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has made a critical decision which may signal that court's willingness to hear a controversial case attempting to flip Pennsylvania's 2020 election results.

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    Originally, Alito set a Wednesday deadline for the state to respond to GOP Rep. Mike Kelly's lawsuit alleging that a 2019 state election reform, known as Act 77, violates both the state and federal constitutions by creating a so-called "no-excuse mail-in" voting regime.

    Many took the Wednesday deadline as political theater, as it would place the case outside the "safe harbor" window which requirest that controversies "concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors . . . by judicial or other methods or procedures" to be determined" at least six days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors," according to Law & Crime.

    In other words, the Tuesday deadline may signal that the Supreme Court takes Kelly's case, which was rejected by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court with prejudice last weekend.

    According to Kelly's filing, the 'no-excuse mail-in' voting scheme should only apply in a limited number of circumstances, and that people must vote in person unless a narrow list of excuses applies. Thus, Act 77 and related election access laws should be invalidated - along with votes cast under it in the 2020 election.

    More via Law & Crime:

    In strict theory, the U.S. Supreme Court has no jurisdiction to settle Pennsylvania constitutional issues, such as whether the state statute at question (Act 77) violates the state constitution. Generally, such matters are the exclusive realm of a state supreme court. But there are exceptions to that general concept, Kelly argues, including here. Because the state is acting under a “direct grant of authority” from the U.S. Constitution to manage federal elections, the U.S. Supreme Court can become involved, he argues, and can determine whether the Pennsylvania statutory and constitutional regime of laws violates the U.S. Constitution. Kelly invites the U.S. Supreme Court to conclude as such and, perhaps more dubiously, that the state court’s way of rubbishing the election violates his rights to petition the government and to receive due process under the First and Fourteenth Amendments thereto. He frames the issues this way:
    • 1. Do the Elections and Electors Clauses of the United States Constitution permit Pennsylvania to violate its state constitution’s restrictions on its lawmaking power when enacting legislation for the conduct of federal elections?

      2. Do the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution permit the dismissal of Petitioners’ claims with prejudice, on the basis of laches, where doing so foreclosed any opportunity for Petitioners to seek retrospective and prospective relief for ongoing constitutional violations?


  • The “elections clause” of the U.S. Constitution is Article I, § 4, clause 1. This clause basically says state legislatures can set their own rules for elections:
    • The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but Congress may at any time make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of chusing Senators.


  • The U.S. Supreme Court has said the framers intended the clause as “a grant of authority to issue procedural regulations, and not as a source of power to dictate electoral outcomes, to favor or disfavor a class of candidates, or to evade important constitutional restraints.” (Naturally, many of Trump’s supporters are attempting to do the opposite of that.)



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The U.S. Supreme Court has said the framers intended the clause as “a grant of authority to issue procedural regulations, and not as a source of power to dictate electoral outcomes, to favor or disfavor a class of candidates, or to evade important constitutional restraints.” (Naturally, many of Trump’s supporters are attempting to do the opposite of that.)

This would not result in the Supreme Court disenfranchising all the voters in PA and still not change the outcome of the election.


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Like I said earlier in the thread, I don't believe this is going to end with the SCOTUS ruling that the election was fraudulent. If it does, then....*shrug*. Since the election was clearly stolen, such a ruling would sit well with me. But I believe that would be outside of the left and right limits of Giuliani's challenge.

However, if their echelon deems it necessary to void the results of the state on account of irregularities and obvious fraud, that just leaves the process in the hands of the legislature--which it looks like is going to happen anyway since Trump has not conceded.

Anyway you slice it, I do have a strong feeling that an audit is coming--a real one. It's probably going to happen after all the brouhaha, but the corruption would ultimately be revealed.

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Wanting different results doesn’t equate to “clearly stolen “.


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Statistical impossibilities followed by harassed/ejected poll watchers and damning videos showing mass re-scanning of ballots equate to that just fine.

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You can claim whatever you want but if it can’t be proven in court than what basis do trumpers have to try to throw out the election? People who do evil usually try justifying it, I think that’s what you guys are attempting here.


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Originally Posted by Pariah
Statistical impossibilities followed by harassed/ejected poll watchers and damning videos showing mass re-scanning of ballots equate to that just fine.

The Deep State disagrees with you.


Do you have any links to these videos? I just Googled "damning videos showing mass re-scanning of ballots" but nothing came up in the first two pages other than this: https://apnews.com/article/election...l-media-cffc1bf12660177b0c651f98054a3a76

But of course, both Google and AP are part of the liberal/leftist global media conspiracy. Silly me.

It is like arguing about the existence of God:

a. "Give me evidence of God's existence and then I will believe."
b. "You don't need evidence. You need faith."
a. "But I won't have faith unless I have evidence."
b. "Faith isn't evidence based. That's why its called "faith"."


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You can claim whatever you want but if it can’t be proven in court than what basis do trumpers have to try to throw out the election? People who do evil usually try justifying it, I think that’s what you guys are attempting here.

I don't think we are seeing evil. I think we are seeing the same sort of mass disbelief that liberal voters experienced when Clinton II lost the election (against all of the polls except that of the LA Times). There was all sorts of scrambling around trying to blame Russian interference, Cambridge Analytica, Facebook... And all of these things were in play to a small but significant degree, but at the end of the day it wasn't a stolen election. Trump won it, and his election team were remarkably successful.

We are all in our media echo chambers, where we are given assurances that our world views are correct. When the world view is torn to pieces by reality, we look to conspiracy. Systemic voter fraud and corruption. Putin with one hand on the scales and the other up Trump's arse. The super spooky Deep State. Iranian trollbots. Venezuelan vote counting software (I love that one).

If Trump was to win again in 2024, and I'd say there was a really good chance of that happening if Trump goes up against Kamala Harris, DEM voters will be blaming Russia again because DEM voters could not possibly believe that having been thrown out on his arse, Trump triumphantly and gloatingly got back in.


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