Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 10 of 14 1 2 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I saw who the pollster was WB. Somebody that has polls off by more than 40 points for the republican might be fine with a partisan like yourself but I prefer accuracy. Than again I’m a bit old fashioned and value honesty and patriotism. (That’s loyalty to your country over say a corrupt lying pos)


We already went over this. McLaughlin has been a pollster for almost 40 years. To slander the guy as 100% wrong all the time, just because he worked for Trump, just because he's lost a handful of elections over that 35 plus years, despite his winning elections and being right an overwhelming majority of the time for 35 years, is just typical Democrat smear tactics. He polls accurately to insure he is selected to poll for the next election, you have absolutely no basis to allege he somehow rigged the numbers just to support Trump. Unlike the Bolsheviks you parrot talking points for, this guy has a private polling business he's not going to put at risk by fronting deliberately inaccurate propaganda, for Trump or for anyone else.

Pariah #1233552 2021-01-03 11:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html

Quote
All 10 living former defense secretaries declare election is over in forceful public letter

(CNN)All 10 living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over in a forceful public letter published in The Washington Post on Sunday as President Donald Trump continues to deny his election loss to Joe Biden.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

Since Election Day, Trump has falsely claimed that a second term is being stolen, even as there have been no credible allegations of widespread voting issues as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, and election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the US Supreme Court.

The Deep State conspiracy strikes again!


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Pariah #1233553 2021-01-03 11:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
There was no slander involved WB. He had that polling error that I correctly pointed out. Making false claims though is what a trumpers does though and doubling down on them when it’s called out. Accuracy and democracy are things I value.


Fair play!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Originally Posted by MisterJLA
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html

Quote
All 10 living former defense secretaries declare election is over in forceful public letter

(CNN)All 10 living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over in a forceful public letter published in The Washington Post on Sunday as President Donald Trump continues to deny his election loss to Joe Biden.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

Since Election Day, Trump has falsely claimed that a second term is being stolen, even as there have been no credible allegations of widespread voting issues as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, and election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the US Supreme Court.

The Deep State conspiracy strikes again!

Dick Cheney!?! You know it’s bad for trumpers when even he’s not going along with the bs


Fair play!
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Quote

18 calls.

panic

lol


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Pariah #1233558 2021-01-05 12:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
It’s no fun taking one of Trump’s “perfect” calls where your coerced and threatened to help him steal an election. Hats off to the brave republicans that are doing this.


Fair play!
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
There was no slander involved WB. He had that polling error that I correctly pointed out. Making false claims though is what a trumpers does though and doubling down on them when it’s called out. Accuracy and democracy are things I value.


I didn't see that you presented any evidence.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
It’s no fun taking one of Trump’s “perfect” calls where your coerced and threatened to help him steal an election. Hats off to the brave republicans that are doing this.


That is again a lying narrative that misrepresents what was ACTUALLY said.
As is crystal clear in the recorded call, Trump only asked him repeatedly to "do the right thing", to do what is right and correct, to do a recount.

There is nothing beyond blatant misrepresentation by you and the liberal media to indicate Trump persuaded Raffensperger to do anything other than disclose the true facts and evidence. It is suppression of the true facts that allows Biden to win.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
It’s no fun taking one of Trump’s “perfect” calls where your coerced and threatened to help him steal an election. Hats off to the brave republicans that are doing this.


The "brave Republicans" who sell out not only Republicans, but the American people, by allowing corrupt Bolshevik marxist radicals to seize power, by their bought silence, and suppression of the true facts.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by MisterJLA
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html

Quote
All 10 living former defense secretaries declare election is over in forceful public letter

(CNN)All 10 living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over in a forceful public letter published in The Washington Post on Sunday as President Donald Trump continues to deny his election loss to Joe Biden.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

Since Election Day, Trump has falsely claimed that a second term is being stolen, even as there have been no credible allegations of widespread voting issues as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, and election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the US Supreme Court.

The Deep State conspiracy strikes again!

Dick Cheney!?! You know it’s bad for trumpers when even he’s not going along with the bs


Establishment Republicans can be expected to betray Trump, they have more in common with the corrupt Democrats than with a reformer like Trump. Keeping the corrupt status quo allows both the establishment Democrats and the establishment Republicans (AND their sons, daughters, brothers, spouses, etc.) to keep cashing in at the expense of thee American people.
See again the book OBAMANOMICS by Tim Carney, that details the corporate and lobby influence on both parties.
See also the book CULTURE OF CORRUPTION by Michelle Malkin for abundant evidence of corrupt money going to Joe Biden and his family, as well as other Democrat leaders.

I love how W. Bush and Cheney were all for contesting an election in 2000, but now it's suddenly "sedition" and "disruptive" for Trump to do exactly the same in contesting a clearly rigged election. For which I've already linked abundant evidence the election was rigged. They, like Democrats, are loyal to a corrupt system that has enriched them, not to the American people.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by MisterJLA
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html

Quote
All 10 living former defense secretaries declare election is over in forceful public letter

(CNN)All 10 living former US defense secretaries declared that the US presidential election is over in a forceful public letter published in The Washington Post on Sunday as President Donald Trump continues to deny his election loss to Joe Biden.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

Since Election Day, Trump has falsely claimed that a second term is being stolen, even as there have been no credible allegations of widespread voting issues as affirmed by dozens of judges, governors, and election officials, the Electoral College, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, and the US Supreme Court.

The Deep State conspiracy strikes again!


Respectfully, it is un-American to pressure trump to concede without exhausting his legal options.
The same legal options these same Republicans supported for a more establishment George W. Bush in 2000.

And the same legal options the Democrats pursued in 1969, 2000, 2016 and 2019.

Either Trump has the same rights as these others, and it is not "subversion", or all these others are as guilty of "subversion" as Donald Trump allegedly is.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
I love how Democrats as prominent as Biden, Pelosi and Schumer are bemoaning Trump's alleged divisiveness, but are simultaneously now pushing to have him removed from office just 13 days before his term ends.

Irony, that. So much for Democrat "unity".

We are just seeing the beginning of how divisive, vicious and violent the Democrat party is going to be, once they have consolidated what they believe is enough power to steamroll over all political opposition. They are the party of BLM and Antifa, of tearing down statues of our nation's founders, urinating on our nation's history, and kicking the gates of illegal immigration wide open. Of a president Biden (and family) who are completely sold out to the Chinese Communist Party, and have eagerly taken cash for that sellout in the millions.

The Democrats have already made clear they want to "crush Trump and his supporters so completely they can never rise up again" (Jennifer Rubin, New York Times).
Or in the words of Clinton official Robert Reich, (very China or Soviet-like) appoint tribunals to force Trump officials to publicly confess and repent for their alleged crimes.

Add to that how media giants like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Amazon are silencing all conservative speech. And Google is suppressing all access to conservative information.

I suspect in the opening months of a Biden administration, they will expand their over-reach to shutting down 2nd Amendment rights, and perhaps even seizure of guns in the hands of private citizens. While, of course, de-funding the police, so that we have neither state protection or personal protection.


  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
We just had the capital stormed by protrump rioters. 50 capital police injured by the folks Trump “loves”. That literally just happened yesterday. In what reality is trump not divisive?


Fair play!
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by Pariah
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Lol, only one set of electors are official

What makes them "official"? The media companies that tell you everything's going to be okay and your party's going to be just fine?

I miss Pariah.

.gov sloth who thought he was an expert on everything, and too deluded to know when to stop arguing.


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
We just had the capital stormed by pro trump rioters. 50 capital police injured by the folks Trump “loves”. That literally just happened yesterday. In what reality is trump not divisive?


AGAIN: The "Trump protesters" have not been identified. And the Capitol police were alerted and warned at least a day in advance that BLM and Antifa were planning violence under cover of PRETENDING to be Trump protestors.

And also, you ignore the seige on the White House by BLM/Antifa a few months ago, where they burned a historic church across the street from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, while attempting to do the same to the White House, and Secret Service saw it as severe enough they evacuated the president.
**AND** Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser created a "Black Lives Matter Plaza" to honor the insurrectionists !

You know what's divisive, M E M? The pieces of shit who run your party, Biden, Pelosi and Schumer, who far from bringing the country together, raise the lying talking point about impeaching Trump in his last 13 days, instead of just letting the clock run out and more graciously taking power in 13 days.
THAT is as "divisive" and incendiary as it gets !

Going back since the 2000 election, and getting more vicious and bitter and threatening with each election, your side is the catalyst of the hate and viciousness an division nationwide, and with each consecutive manufactured incident your side incites, you have the audacity to accuse the Republicans of provoking it. Your party are Bolshevik maniacs, who increasingly win by mob intimidation, and they have made clear in speeches and texts their violent intentions. And now they are about to have the absolute power to actually do it. God help us all.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
FACIAL RECOGNITION SHOWS ANTIFA INFILTRATING PROTESTS

Quote
As the quisling “conservative” media attacks Trump and his voters, facial recognition proves that Antifa had infiltrated the MAGA marchers during the protests on Wednesday.

The news media went wild on Wednesday when a group of protesters had broken through a cordon of police to enter the capitol as Congress met to certify the results of last month’s Electoral College vote. But were the people who perpetrated the unrest really members of the MAGA movement?

Well, it appears that at least some of them were infiltrators from the anti-American terrorist outfit called Antifa.

According to the Washington Times, electronic surveillance has identified some of those among the MAGA protesters as Antifa.

Per the Times:

  • A retired military officer told The Washington Times that the firm XRVision used its software to do facial recognition of protesters and matched two Philadelphia antifa members to two men inside the Senate.

    The source provided the photo match to The Times.

    One has a tattoo that indicates he is a Stalinist sympathizer. antifa promotes anarchy through violence and wants the end of America in favor of a Stalinist-state. “No more USA at all” is a protest chant.

    XRVision also has identified another man who, while not known to have antics links, is someone who shows up at climate and Black Lives Matter protests in the West.


The paper also noted that Antifa has been telling its members to disguise themselves as MAGA marchers to cause havoc.

“Before the Nov. 4 election, an antifa chapter sent out on social media a reminder for members to disguise themselves as Trump supporters by wearing the distinctive red Make American Great Again (MAGA) hat,” the Times wrote.
“On Nov. 4 don’t forget to disguise yourselves as patriots/Trump supporters. Wear MAGA hats. USA flags. A convincing police uniform is even better. This way police and patriots responding to US won’t know who their enemies are and onlookers and the media will think there are Trump supporters rioting so it’s harder to turn popular opinion against us.”

____________________________________________

Warner Todd Huston has been writing editorials and news since 2001 but started his writing career penning articles about U.S. history back in the early 1990s. Huston has appeared on Fox News, Fox Business Network, CNN, and several local Chicago News programs to discuss the issues of the day. Additionally, he is a regular guest on radio programs from coast to coast. Huston has also been a Breitbart News contributor since 2009. Warner works out of the Chicago area, a place he calls a "target rich environment" for political news.


and...

TWO KNOWN ANTIFA MEMBERS POSED AS PRO-TRUMPERS TO INFILTRATE CAPITOL RIOT

The comments below are also interesting, and quite articulate, many of whom say they participated in the protests and were there, some of them inside the Capitol when it happened.


Oh, and of the 50 arrests, only 5 were participants in the Capitol violence. The others were all arrests for "violating curfew".

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Quote
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/8/fbi-says-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-ri/


The FBI has uncovered no evidence that supporters of the Antifa movement were involved in the pro-Trump riot at this U.S. Capitol, a bureau official said Friday.

The announcement debunks claims pushed forward by some right-wing pundits and politicians that the anarchist movement’s supporters were part of the angry mob that stormed the Capitol.

During a press briefing Friday, a reporter asked if Antifa activists had disguised themselves as Trump supporters during the riot.

Still, some Trump allies, far-right journalists and politicians have peddled baseless theories about Antifa participation in the riot.


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Pariah #1233629 2021-01-08 10:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by Pariah
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
How cute playing pretend. Official electors have already chosen and voted though. Trump turd loses again.


Link - Reuters: 'Dueling electors' pose risk of U.S. vote deadlock

Who do you think counts the votes, chooses whether or not to count the votes, or chooses which votes to count?

you're trying to stay positive MEM. I get it. But your's only fucking yourself if you think it's over.

For the love of FUCK, please come back, Pariah.


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Pariah #1233631 2021-01-08 10:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Against the liberal talking points that there is no evidence of Antifa involvement, that is what the Capitol police guarding the grounds were advised, and what they told multiple House and Senate members. The tactics are typical of Antifa and BLM, not typical of Trump supporters.


And why would the FBI not want to find any evidence of leftist radicals instead of Trump supporters involved?

97% of DOJ donations went to the Hillary Clinton campaign (The FBI is a subdivision of the DOJ).

Oh. Yeah. That's why.
The same reason FBI and DOJ never investigated rampant election fraud in at least 6 states after Nov 3rd.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by the G-man
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Even if you truly felt that way g that hardly justifies trump trying to steal the election. This bitch can’t even call and concede like Hillary did.

Going to court, or any other deliberative body set up for that purpose, and arguing one’s position isn’t trying to steal anything.

Your position that people in the opposing political party should have no right to petition for redress of grievances is duly noted and, unfortunately, hardly surprising.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/poli...-trump-misdialed-capitol-riot/index.html

Quote
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump and his attorney Rudy Giuliani both mistakenly made calls to Republican Sen. Mike Lee as deadly riots were unfolding at the US Capitol earlier this week, a spokesman for the senator confirmed to CNN -- calls that were intended for another GOP senator the White House was frantically trying to convince to delay the counting of Electoral College votes.

Lee's spokesman said the calls from Trump and his attorney were intended for Sen. Tommy Tuberville, a newly elected Republican from Alabama.

The effort by the White House to get Tuberville to delay certification of the votes provides insight into the President's thinking and priorities as a mob of his supporters lay siege to the iconic building. As the President worked to convince Tuberville to delay the process, he and other top White House officials did little to check in on Vice President Mike Pence while he and members of his family were inside the breached Capitol, a source close to the vice president told CNN.

Trump first called the personal cell phone of Lee, a Utah Republican, shortly after 2 p.m. ET. At that time the senators had been evacuated from the Senate floor and were in a temporary holding room, as a pro-Trump mob began breaching the Capitol.

Lee picked up the phone and Trump identified himself, and it became clear he was looking for Tuberville and had been given the wrong number. Lee, keeping the President on hold, went to find his colleague and handed Tuberville his phone, telling him the President was on the line and had been trying to reach him.

Trump was simply arguing his position.

Sincerely,

G-troll


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
It's alleged that President Trump, in his 12 noon speech on Wednesday, Jan 6 2021, was somehow an incendiary catalyst that "incited" a raging pro-Trump mob to violence.

And since it the rush of protestors into the Capitol building, that lying narrative has been fronted (whether they were in fact a few Trump protestors, or whether they were Democrat/Antifa PRETENDING to be Trump supporters, infiltrating the protest). And immediately after, Facebook and Twitter both suspended Trump's accounts, and Youtube likewise is purging anything that would reveal the true facts and disprove that lying narrative.

The best I could find is this transcribed text of Trump's speech :

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t...ill-never-concede-when-theft-is-involved



A few typos, but at least it's preserved in this form.

How much proof do you need that the leftist media is lying, when they won't even let you see the video, to judge for yourself?

The rally went on peacefully for hours after Trump's speech.

And it was only after Pence refused to give Republican legislators the expected legal authorization to go into 10 days of debate, and news got out to the protestors, that the protestors moved toward thr Capitol, and a small group got violent.

And shortly after the clash with Capitol police, Trump gave the more brief statement I transcribed, encouraging everyone at the protest rally to remain peaceful and go home.

Originally Posted by President Donald J. Trump
I know your pain, I know you're hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don't want anybody hurt.

It's a very tough period of time. There's never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us — from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You're very special. You've seen what happens. You see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil.

I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.

___________

edit:

I found the video of it:


Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Because the constitution totally calls for a 10 day time period if the losers don’t accept losing we probably should understand that they (the antifa posing trump supporters) had a right to storm the capital killing one cop and injuring many more while trump and rudy tried forcing our elected officials to reject legal election results.

You have to know you don’t make sense.


Fair play!
Pariah #1233661 2021-01-09 12:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
And It took a long time for Trump to tell the rioters to go home. Instead of trying to defuse the riot he was busy trying to use the riot he incited to delay certification. It’s such a huge betrayal WB that you can’t just pass off.


Fair play!
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040
Likes: 24
Society's Discontent
6000+ posts
Offline
Society's Discontent
6000+ posts
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040
Likes: 24
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
And It took a long time for Trump to tell the rioters to go home. Instead of trying to defuse the riot he was busy trying to use the riot he incited to delay certification. It’s such a huge betrayal WB that you can’t just pass off.
That's because, according to GOP Senator Mike Lee of Utah, Trump was busy wrong dialing him trying to get Tommy Tuberville to delay the certification.

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833
Likes: 7
Pariah Offline OP
The conscience of the rkmbs!
15000+ posts
OP Offline
The conscience of the rkmbs!
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833
Likes: 7
Recap:

Courts continually refuse to hear cases regarding voter fraud on the premises of "standing" and the Doctrine of Laches. Evidence is ignored.

Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania legislatures demand house sessions to analyze growing body of evidence. Governors tell them to go fuck themselves.

Trump asks very specific questions of Raffensperburglergrjonf regarding wrongdoing and then leaks his own recording of the discussion via Whitehouse aid.

AOC, MEM, Sammitch, etc demand lists of Trump voters so they can toss them into camps. And they want to arrest Trump.

The runoff elections produces the same suspicious vertical spike upticks in democratic votes in the dead of night allowing them to win by JUST the right amount of votes.

Trump calls for mass demonstration in DC on the 6th to show the congress his supporter base. Whether he knew Antifa would infiltrate crowds or if he called for the crowds to show up to stymie MAGA-dressed Antifa operators--the presence of which he had foreknowledge--is a bit of a guessing game. My thinking is it was the latter since Pelosi knew the squishy corrupt congress would need a face-saving excuse to pull back on making objections to the electors and arranged to have Antifa's presence at the capitol prior to Trump calling for a protest. And thus it's easier for Pence and the GOP to betray Trump while fueling the narrative of fomenting insurrection.....and then the Airmen gets shot. Called it:

"I'm hoping I'm wrong on this one and that Trump has a trick up his sleeve to mitigate or nullify the likely friction (to put it lightly) that will ensue today and over the course of the next month or so. But there's too many factors, too many actors, and too much on the line to assume anything other than shots fired."

All media outlets, both social and televised, run with the narrative and enforce straight radio silence on all Trump supporters--even Trump himself. All under the auspices of "preventing violence." Corporations and the general elite work in tandem with these same media outlets to deplatform free speech dispensaries such as Parler, Bitchute, and Gab (see also: Dems using El Paso to shut down infinity). Anything and anyone that does not conform to the narrative is blacklisted and destroyed.

AOC, MEM, Sammitch, etc demand lists of Trump voters so they can toss them into camps. And they want to arrest Trump.

Military intelligence operations unearth the foreign source of vote tampering in Italy via personnel working for defense contractor Leonardo SpA. Mainstream ignores on account of the clear implications involving Trump's 2018 Executive Order.

Pelosi and McConnell push for impeachment and/or 25th Amendment this week. What could they possibly be afraid of that they have to push this now of all times.........

AOC, MEM, Sammitch, etc demand lists of Trump voters so they can toss them into camps. And they want to arrest Trump.

Current speculation: Trump invoked the Insurrection Act. People have made this claim, but I'm having trouble confirming it. Especially since it might be superfluous in the face of Trump already declaring a national emergency.


And of course, the people by and large are rejecting the clearly premeditated narratives because Trump has long since castrated mainstream news.


Still believe in Fait Accomplis MEM?

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833
Likes: 7
Pariah Offline OP
The conscience of the rkmbs!
15000+ posts
OP Offline
The conscience of the rkmbs!
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by MisterJLA
Originally Posted by Pariah
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
How cute playing pretend. Official electors have already chosen and voted though. Trump turd loses again.


Link - Reuters: 'Dueling electors' pose risk of U.S. vote deadlock

Who do you think counts the votes, chooses whether or not to count the votes, or chooses which votes to count?

you're trying to stay positive MEM. I get it. But your's only fucking yourself if you think it's over.

For the love of FUCK, please come back, Pariah.

I've been busy playing Cyberpunk. Expect a review soon, JLA.

Pariah #1233764 2021-01-11 12:49 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Pariah is back!

grin

Hopefully we can get another one of those awesome predictions!

lol


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
And It took a long time for Trump to tell the rioters to go home. Instead of trying to defuse the riot he was busy trying to use the riot he incited to delay certification. It’s such a huge betrayal WB that you can’t just pass off.

You're full of shit.
It took Trump maybe an hour at most.


And as I said, The protesters left immediately. When there are calls for the Left to stand down, even by Democrats, they keep right on looting and burning.

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
And It took a long time for Trump to tell the rioters to go home. Instead of trying to defuse the riot he was busy trying to use the riot he incited to delay certification. It’s such a huge betrayal WB that you can’t just pass off.

You're full of shit.
It took Trump maybe an hour at most.


And as I said, The protesters left immediately. When there are calls for the Left to stand down, even by Democrats, they keep right on looting and burning.

Pro-Trump rioters breached the capital at 2:15 and your pos released a lame video at 4.
Pro-trump rioters timeline


Fair play!
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
And It took a long time for Trump to tell the rioters to go home. Instead of trying to defuse the riot he was busy trying to use the riot he incited to delay certification. It’s such a huge betrayal WB that you can’t just pass off.

You're full of shit.
It took Trump maybe an hour at most.

And as I said, The protesters left immediately. When there are calls for the Left to stand down, even by Democrats, they keep right on looting and burning.

Pro-Trump rioters breached the capital at 2:15 and your pos released a lame video at 4.
Pro-trump rioters timeline


Wow, slightly over an hour after it happened! To hear you tell it, you'd think it was 7 days or 2 weeks later.
Remember the beheading of an American journalist (James Foley) by Al Qaida, where it took Obama over a week to make a public comment? And then cynically started golfing less than 30 seconds later? A callous and bare minimum response.

Remember the two U.S. Marines, in two separate incidents, that were unjustly put in Mexican prison, where Obama *NEVER* made a public statement on their behalf publicly, necer made an appeal on their behalf to the Mexican government? Who were only released because they had health problems, and Mexico released them because they didn't want the blowback of being responsible for killing American soldiers. Their imprisonment was essentially kidnapping by state officials, and extorting payment for their release, a frequent tactic by officials in Mexico.

Remember the U.S. soldier killed in his recruiting office by a muslim, where again it took your piece of shit former president Obama two weeks to respond?

Or where Obama made public comments that racialized and further inflamed rioting in cities nationwide, on the occasions of both Trayvon Martin in Sanford Florida, and Michael Brown in Ferguson Missouri? "If I had a son he would have loked like Trayvon..." Throwing even more kerosine on the fire.


It took Trump maybe an hour at most. And it probably took Trump at least 30 or 45 minutes to learn there was an incident at the Capitol, and time to compose an articulate statement that addressed all the issues involved. And far from "lame", Trump hit exactly the right note with his words, both with protestors and the nation, and the crowd, even Capitol police were impressed with how quickly the crowd left. Trump addressed well the frustration his 74,223,000 voters nationwide were feeling, gave them much needed appreciation in the face of a fixed system that never gave them their day in court. But gently made the point that even any further completely peaceful protest that day would have been unproductive, and just exploited by the vicious Democrat/Left. Pundit comments said Trump was very sincere and seemed deeply grieved by what happened while giving his comments.

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Biden was on 17 minutes before your riot inciter gave his “special people” speech.


Fair play!
Pariah #1233793 2021-01-12 11:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
.


What you try to spin in a lying narrative as Trump "inciting a riot", M E M :

Originally Posted by President Donald J. Trump, January 6, 2021
I know in a few minutes you are going to march over to the Capitol, to peacefully and patriotically let your voices be heard.


How your Bolshevik-Democrat party twists that into "incitement" is absurd.

Only by not showing Trump's actual speech on video, and just having Democrat leaders and liberal media pundits themselves say, "Trump incited a riot" can that lying narrative be spread, by not allowing people to see what Trump actually said.

As Alan Dershowitz said last night, Trump is using the exact same phrasing as hundreds of other political leaders before him have said at political rallies in Washington.
You're all liars, M E M, Trump's actual words make that clear.

Pariah #1233794 2021-01-12 11:26 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Kamala Harris, interviewed by Stephen Colbert, on BLM riots


KAMALA HARRIS on BLM riots: "They're gonna keep going right up through election day, they're not going to stop, and they SHOULDN'T stop."


*THAT*, M E M, is endorsing and inciting violence.
Likewise Cory Booker, Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, and pretty much the entire Democrat-Bolshevik party.
Biden and the rest of the DNC have likewise passively endorsed BLM and Antifa violence by refusing to criticize it.


  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Pariah #1233796 2021-01-13 12:04 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
She’s talking about the peaceful protesters WB. You know like the pro-trump ones that didn’t storm and riot in the capital. Or build gallows or kill and injure cops. (Trump’s special people)


Fair play!
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
She’s talking about the peaceful protesters WB. You know like the pro-trump ones that didn’t storm and riot in the capital. Or build gallows or kill and injure cops. (Trump’s special people)

That's horseshit, M E M.
Kamala Harris is talking about riots and intimidation, "keeping up the pressure", she makes no distinction at any point to exclude violent protests from that "pressure".

As contrasted with Trump who specifically said "let your voices be peacefully and patriotically heard". And "This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people. "


So again, to review: You're a fucking liar.


  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
.



Did Trump Incite Violence? The Timeline Doesn’t Work


Quote
Written by Wes Walker, January 12, 2021



There’s a very simple and obvious reason Trump could not have incited the violence, one that has nothing to do with what he has said, and everything to do with WHERE and WHEN he said it.
The connection between these points is so simple a child could follow it — maybe even Nancy Pelosi.

For Trump to have incited violence in a crowd, that crowd must have heard what he had to say.
That makes sense, right? And it won’t require any complex explanation?
If they weren’t part of the crowd, there’s no sense in Democrats and media blaming the crowd of protesters.
If the attackers left before Trump addressed the crowd, their reasons for busting up the place must have been something OTHER than what the President said to supposedly ‘incite’ the crowd to violent action.

The other consideration is the distance between where the speech was given, and where the criminal actions took place.
Now that we’ve set up the elements in tension, here is Raheem Kassam to present his argument for why Trump could not POSSIBLY have incited violence on the 6th of January.

The website he refers to explains in more concise detail:

  • And while the Washington Post clumsily attempts to blame President Trump for the violence, despite the President calling for “peaceful” protests and the “cheering on” of Congressmen, their own article admits the “first wave of protesters arrived at the Capitol about 12:40pm.”

    President Trump’s speech didn’t conclude until 1:11pm, and with at least a 45-minute walk between the two locations with crowd-related delays, that would put the first people from Trump’s speech at Capitol Hill no earlier than 1:56pm – a full hour and sixteen minutes after troublemakers arrived.

    In fact, rioters who breached the perimeter would have had to leave before Trump’s speech even began (at 12pm precisely) to make it in time for the events as they are detailed by authorities.

    The Washington Post also states: “Sund’s outer perimeter on the Capitol’s west side was breached within 15 minutes,” meaning the Capitol was breached over an hour before Trump speech attendees could have even begun to arrive.

    This correlates with Sund’s interview, where he admits: “I realized at 1pm, things aren’t going well… I’m watching my people getting slammed.”

    Again, 1pm would have been a full 56 minutes before any Trump speech-attendees could have begun arriving, let alone breaching the perimeter and clashing with police. Downtown Washington, D.C. roads were closed. There was no way of arriving faster, let alone before the President had finished speaking.

    At 1:09pm, still before the President had finished speaking, Sund called the Sergeants-at-arms of the House and Senate. He told them it was time to call in the National Guard. He even said he wanted an emergency declaration. Both, however, said they would “run it up the chain” and get back to him.

    At 1:50pm the Capitol itself was breached. Still before most Trump speech attendees could have arrived. –TheNationalPulse


Supporting video and timeline graphs at the link.

Evidence that shows a group of people showed up at the rally (Antifa?) with a plan to initiate violence, irregardless of and unrelated to Trump's January 6, 2021 speech, that has a clear peaceful protest message.


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...nd-how-did-trump-incite-the-mob-n1328053

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Unbelievable. In the last few hours, the House Democrats passed a fraudulent vote to impeach President Trump a Second time, just as abusively and illegitimately as the first time. With the help of 10 RINO Republicans who have opposed and obstructed Trump's presidency for 4 years, with establishment Republican Liz Cheney leading the pack.

The Democrats had no hearings, presented NO EVIDENCE before they took a vote to do this. Because as I pointed out, there is no evidence to present. Many who voted against Trump, such as Maxine Waters or Eric Swalwell, are openly guilty of "incitement" and treason themselves. It is absurd that these people can vote to destroy Trump, who is guilty of nothing, while they themselves are guilty of the very things they falsely accuse Trump of !


It reminds me of the movie Mean Girls, where the mean popular girls don't like another girl, so they just make up rumors she's a slut to destroy her, just to crush her and make her life hell. And Pelosi is the meanest, most malicious girl of all.


Trump impeached by House, now the first president impeached twice

Impeached TWICE. And both times done maliciously for purely political reasons, for doing absolutely nothing wrong. While his accusers are themselves truly guilty of exactly what they accuse him of. See the above video clips of Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Maxine Waters, and the rest. This is not about "incitement", it's about Democrats trying to destroy Trump and his voter-base, by whatever contrived abuse of the law possible. Not because it's right, but just because they can, with no one to stop them or hold them accountable.


  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,796
Likes: 40
Lol, Liz Cheney is hardly a rino WB. And what do these republicans get for voting to impeach trump? I ask after watching rabid trumpers chant “hang pence” as they rioted in the capital. She just earned death threats and probably a primary challenge. While I admire her patriotism she’s still very conservative so folks like me are not going to vote for her. So why do you think she voted for impeachment WB?


Fair play!
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Offline
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..."
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I ask after watching rabid trumpers chant “hang pence” as they rioted in the capital.

inb4 "those weren't Trump supporters"...


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com] [/center]

[center][Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com][/center]
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 25,011
Likes: 31
Originally Posted by MisterJLA
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I ask after watching rabid trumpers chant “hang pence” as they rioted in the capital.

inb4 "those weren't Trump supporters"...


REP. JIM JORDAN AND REP ANDY BIGGS: REP LIZ CHENEY HAS A RIGHT TO VOTE AS SHE WANTS, BUT WHEN HER POSITION OPPOSES 190 OTHER REPUBLICANS, SHE SHOULD NOT BE IN A G.O.P. LEADERHIP POSITION


I think that's clear enough. She's the daughter of former V P Dick Cheney, that is the definition of an establishment neo-con elitist Republican.
As opposed to a nationist/populist like Trump, and the movement he leads.

And the establishment Democrats, the establishment Republicans, the globalists (that also includes the Soros-funded BLM and Antifa Left and the Bernie Sanders wing marxist revolutionaries), and their Democrat/deep state allies in the FBI, DOJ, State Department, CIA, and every other tentacle of the establishment/deep state beast. Which also includes many judges, up to and including, as we've seen over the last two months, the U.S. Supreme Court.
So, more succinctly, fuck yes it's a conspiracy.

And a conspiracy by a group of violent radicals, agents of a Democrat party who have already infiltrated Trump rallies in 2016 to start violence and then blame it on Trump, but were proven (by Project Veritas, ON VIDEO) to be thug agents of the Hillary Clinton campaign, who openly boasted they were paid through "a double wall of deniability".


Also:

Text by LISA PAGE: "Trump's not going to be president, right? RIGHT?!?"
Text by PETER STRZOK: "No. No, he won't. We will stop it."


Yeah, a false flag conspiracy against Trump and his supporters couldn't possibly happen...
rolleyes

Page 10 of 14 1 2 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5