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Biden signs the $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill into law

Biden got this popular bill done. I don’t expect the hyper partisans who were for it when fat orange pos talked about doing it but never actually got it done, to give Biden any credit. I do appreciate the republicans who supported this no matter who was in the WH though. It’s nice to see country being put before party and we all need more of that.


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"Popular bill'...

Like Obamacare in 2010, it will result in both the Democrats and Republicans who voted for it being ejected from office in the very next election.

That tells you everything you need to know about how "popular" this spending is. And like Obamacare, the Democrats knowingly lied about what it will actually cost. Obamacare was fronted to only cost $1 trillion.
In reality it surpassed 2 trillion in just its first 3 years.
The "Infrastructure bill" (of which only about 11% is actually for infrastructure, and the rest is subsidies for companies and NGO's that are allies of the Democrat party, essentially a slush fund for Democrat elections in 2022 and 2024), is fronted at its passing to cost $1.2 trillion. But it is already estimated by those in the know to actually obligate $4 trillion in actual spending, once initiated.
The only plus side is it will get a lot of Democrats ejected from office in the next two elections, as the true facts become fully apparent.

Further, the Democrats deliberately evaded analysis of the Infrastructure bill by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) because Dems knew it would expose the lie of what Democrats told us it would truly cost.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/16/democrats-rush-discredit-cbo-ahead-potentially-neg/

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I think the bipartisan support it received despite the GOP’s increasing move to the extremist right speaks for itself. It wasn’t that long ago Trump was supposedly for an infrastructure bill like this one except it was for 2 trillion dollars. Honestly partisan fools that are only for something if it’s their party in charge look like the partisan fools they are. Our country needs to invest more into infrastructure at the end of the day. That was recognized as true when Trump was in office and is still true now that it’s Biden. Some things like national security and infrastructure need to be above petty bitter politics.


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US Chamber of Commerce: Trump is wrong

US Chamber: Trump is 'wrong' on infrastructure bill
“ New York (CNN Business)Former President Donald Trump has blasted the bipartisan infrastructure legislation recently passed by Congress as a "Non-Infrastructure" bill.

Trump, long an advocate for infrastructure spending, put out a statement last weekend claiming that just 11% of the $1.2 trillion package is going toward "real" infrastructure. The former president, who repeatedly tried and failed to get an infrastructure bill passed when he was in the White House, argued Republican lawmakers should be "ashamed of themselves."
Neil Bradley, chief policy officer at the US Chamber of Commerce, told CNN that Trump is "wrong."
"There is a lot of misinformation going around about this bill, including that only a small amount goes to infrastructure," Bradley said in an interview.
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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I think the bipartisan support it received despite the GOP’s increasing move to the extremist right speaks for itself. It wasn’t that long ago Trump was supposedly for an infrastructure bill like this one except it was for 2 trillion dollars. Honestly partisan fools that are only for something if it’s their party in charge look like the partisan fools they are. Our country needs to invest more into infrastructure at the end of the day. That was recognized as true when Trump was in office and is still true now that it’s Biden. Some things like national security and infrastructure need to be above petty bitter politics.


It received "bipartisan support" from a few RINOs who will be voted out of office in the next election, because they went so outrageously against the will of the constituents who voted for this "infrastructure" legislation, that is in fact only about 11% actual infrastructure spending, and the rest going to businesses and NGO's who are allies of the Democrat party. Such as Planned Parenthood, Soros-funded groups, and Catholic charities helping the Democrats covertly spread Covid-infected illegal immigrants and criminals on 4 AM flights across all 50 states.

It is a fact that Republicans voted in support of "infrastructure" spending in a misguided desire to reach across the aisle and try to find a middle ground. But they voted, naively, for a bill that wasn't even fully written, where the Democrats can deceitfully add whatever malevolent or ideologically hard-Left spending programs they want.

A prime example is Senator Bill Cassidy (R-LA) who was grilled about it beautifully by Laura Ingraham, where she politely told him how naive and stupid he was to go along with the bill, how the Democrats would betray that trust and ram in all kinds of radical spending not negotiated with Republicans, and asked Cassidy if he would be willing to come back on her show in a few weeks and admit later how wrong he was, and how badly his group of RINOs got shafted by the Democrats. It was a very aggressive interview, and Cassidy looked like the naive idiot he was, when on point after point Ingraham pried out of him that he didn't even know or understand the finer point of what he voted for. But she did! He never came back on (predictably) but she followed up just a few days later citing examples of how Democrats had already betrayed what they promised, and were piling on hard-Left add-ons they assured they had just assured they would not.
Many of the Republicans, both House and Senate members who voted for the infrastructure bill, are not running for re-election and have no accountability. And want to go out with a little favorable coverage from the Democrat-Newspeak press, who will be nice to them for caving in to the Democrats, but would have excoriated them as right-wing nazis if they had opposed it.

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US Chamber of Commerce: Trump is wrong

US Chamber: Trump is 'wrong' on infrastructure bill
“ New York (CNN Business)Former President Donald Trump has blasted the bipartisan infrastructure legislation recently passed by Congress as a "Non-Infrastructure" bill.

Trump, long an advocate for infrastructure spending, put out a statement last weekend claiming that just 11% of the $1.2 trillion package is going toward "real" infrastructure. The former president, who repeatedly tried and failed to get an infrastructure bill passed when he was in the White House, argued Republican lawmakers should be "ashamed of themselves."
Neil Bradley, chief policy officer at the US Chamber of Commerce, told CNN that Trump is "wrong."
"There is a lot of misinformation going around about this bill, including that only a small amount goes to infrastructure," Bradley said in an interview.
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CNN = Democrat Orwellian Newspeak Central. It is where the truth goes to die. CNN is essentially a PR wing of the Democrat party. It wasn't always, but it sure is now.

The American people DO NOT want this or other trillion-dollar Democrat legislation and other authoritarian socialist and "social justice" legislation or executive orders.



WP POLL: BIDEN HAS ACCOMPLISHED "LITTLE OR NOTHING" IN HIS PRESIDENCY

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Almost half of Americans believe President Joe Biden hasn’t accomplished very much, if anything at all, during his presidency, according to a WaPo-ABC News poll released Sunday.

Of the 1,001 adults polled, 63% thought Biden had achieved “not very much” or “little or nothing” thus far, with 45% answering the latter. The figure is far greater than that of former Presidents Donald Trump, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton at similar points in their presidencies, Politico reported.
The poll was conducted after the House passed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill (BIF), which devotes approximately $1.2 trillion towards improving roads, bridges, ports, waterways, rural broadband access and more over the next decade.

The poll also showed that 51% of respondents would choose Republican House candidates over Democrats in their own jurisdictions, the highest percentage for the party since the poll first asked the question 40 years ago, Politico reported. This makes the figure higher than 2014, 2010 or 1994, which were GOP wave years.
President Biden Meets With Cabinet To Discuss Infrastructure Bill's Implementation
U.S. President Joe Biden speaks during a cabinet meeting in the Cabinet Room of the White House November 12, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Biden’s approval rating also dropped to 41%, according to the poll results, with 53% of respondents disapproving of the president’s work while in office. More, only 31% of respondents said Biden has kept most of his campaign promises, and 70% of respondents stated that the economy was “not so good” or “poor.”
However, 63% of respondents said they supported “spending one trillion dollar” on infrastructure, and 58% supported “spending about two trillion dollars to address climate change and to create or expand preschool, health care and other social programs.” (RELATED: What Do Americans Know About The Build Back Better Act?)

BIF passed in early November after lengthy negotiations between different wings of the Democratic Party in the House. Moderate Democrats gave a written commitment that they would vote for Biden’s $1.75 trillion spending package should the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score be aligned with White House estimates.
The thirteen Republicans who voted in favor of BIF are facing intense backlash from some within the party. Six Democrats voted against the bill.

The Democrats are digging their own electoral graves by ramming through legislation the American public clearly doesn't want.

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WHY BIDEN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL WILL ONLY WORSEN SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS

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President Joe Biden on Nov. 15 signed his infrastructure bill, a trillion-plus-dollar handout to left-wing special interests masquerading as a solution to the supply chain crisis he created.

The administration is touting the bill as a fix, but the truth is, the bill is at best irrelevant, and most likely will make the crisis worse, at an enormous cost to taxpayers.
The core of the supply chain crisis is a lack of capacity at ports and among truckers—and a historic shortage of workers, now at 10.4 million unfilled jobs nationwide.
Together, these shortages drive inflation, empty shelves of even basic goods, and shutter factories that can’t get the parts and inputs they need.

Rather than fixing this crisis, this bill instead uses it as an excuse to push a gigantic handout for special interests, radical left-wing activists, and unions. As a result, the money won’t be going where supply chains need it, but rather to irrelevant make-work projects that please activists and unions, such as subsidies for electric cars that have nothing to do with supply chains; to plowing hundreds of billions of dollars into tearing down and rebuilding Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg’s “racist” highways; to building trains to nowhere; and to bailing out failed urban transit.
This isn’t just about wasting money, however. Rather, these projects use up the resources and workers the private sector desperately requires to build capacity that’s actually needed.
For example, warehouses nationwide are at just 3.6% spare capacity—beyond their “capacity to even function properly”—yet they cannot expand because steel, concrete, and even construction workers are all in short supply.

Now, the federal government lumbers in with hundreds of billions of your tax dollars to outbid the remaining resources and workers for activist boondoggles, further starving the projects that are actually needed.
So, what’s in the infrastructure legislation?
The most important infrastructure problem at the moment is port automation, the lack of which makes California ports among the least efficient on earth—behind even those of Mombasa, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania—and which unions have fought tooth-and-nail for decades.
Alas, the infrastructure bill specifically forbids money for automation, instead spending ports money on emissions reduction.

Even the useful bits of the bill, such as dredging, roads, and rail, go to projects that have little to do with actual supply chains. The $100 billion going to rail is almost all for subways, Amtrak handouts, restarting abandoned rural lines, or replacing at-grade train crossings. For roads, the money overwhelmingly goes to maintenance, not expansion, including tearing down and rebuilding those allegedly “racist” overpasses.
Some of these may be good housekeeping in the long run, but tearing up highways, bridges, and rails in the middle of a nationwide capacity crisis is like replacing one’s roof during a hurricane. It only makes matters worse.
Moreover, these hundreds of billions of dollars shouldn’t be decided by a remote federal government in the first place. State and local governments have a better idea of what’s needed, while the private sector actually has an incentive to build stuff people actually want.
What should the federal government be doing instead? Go where the problem is; namely, ports, truckers, and lack of workers.

That means telling port unions that automation is coming whether they like it or not, and replace them if they keep dragging their feet. It means standing down on activist-driven environmental and labor mandates that have knocked the vast majority of trucks out of California and threaten to take that nationwide.
Finally, it means stopping paying people to sit on the couch instead of taking one of the 10.4 million unfilled jobs—that is, no more benefits divorced from work, whether as stimulus checks, enhanced unemployment benefits, or “child allowance” payments as a shadow vote-buying universal basic income.

Unfortunately, all the real solutions would require Democrats to stand up to their special interests, the left-wing activists and unions. So, instead, they will likely continue this pattern of creating crises through incompetence, then using those crises as excuses to push more activist agendas—with American families left to struggle with rising prices, empty shelves, and shuttered factories.
As for this infrastructure bill, at best it will do nothing for the supply chain crisis, and most likely it will only deepen the crisis by hogging resources and disrupting struggling networks when we need them most.

Biden and Congress had an excellent opportunity to get out of the way, but they squandered it.
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Peter St. Onge is an economic research fellow in the Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation. He holds a doctorate in economics from George Mason University.

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THE MASSIVE DECEPTION OF DEMOCRATS' INFRASTRUCTURE BILL

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The Democrats’ pending $4.7 trillion dollar Infrastructure Bill is a compound deception, not limited to $4.7 trillion, not “paid for,” not infrastructure. Democrat strategy – like Obamacare – is to speak lies with conviction, demand loyalty, concentrate power, spread fear, jam it through.

First, $4.7 trillion dollars – the $1.2 trillion “bipartisan” Senate bill and $3.5 trillion House bill, represents unthinkable spending, raising our $28.7 trillion national debt by a sixth.

Understanding how irresponsible this is tests language. This is a 45 with 11 zeros behind it – or $4,500,000,000,000. Each dollar earned by an American is then taken or assumed as debt.

Key fact: The middle class – roughly 52 percent of the country in 2018, more in 2019, less in 2021 – pays the nation’s tax bill. That is you and me. No amount of “taxing the rich” will reduce accelerating federal debt and spending. See, e.g., Which Income Class Are You?.

On the numbers, in 2021, the top one percent of earners – making $540,000 – earned 21 percent of income and paid 40 percent of taxes, while the top 10 percent (upper-middle class) earned 48 percent of income and paid 71 percent of taxes.

Incredibly, more than 107 million Americans – 60.6 percent – paid no income taxes, 59 million collecting federal welfare. See, e.g., COVID-19 Tax Relief Added to Increasing Share of Households Paying No Income Tax; Straight Talk On Welfare Statistics.

Overall, the federal government administers 80 welfare programs (not including those to which Americans contribute, such as Social Security and Medicare). Congressional Research Service reports the top 10 federal welfare programs grew by 378 percent since 1990. See, e.g., United States Senate Committee on the Budget.

Taken together, the lower and upper-middle classes pay the bulk of taxes – as they work, are most numerous, and are neither top one percent nor the bottom 60 percent. Forty percent carry-all.

No matter what Democrats say, we – the middle class – will pay for massive new spending. Making matters worse, Democrats plan to raise tax rates, pushing unemployment up, too.

At the same time, mass federal spending and debt trigger inflation since more dollars get printed without increases in labor participation, productivity, output, growth, income, or wealth. In other words, the dollars you earn will be taken at a faster rate and then devalued, even as prices rise.

Labor unions will ask for more money, which accelerates price increases and employment cuts (to pay higher costs), which reduces overall consumer spending, further slowing the economy.

What does that do? A shrinking economy shrinks the tax base – giving the lie to assumptions of a robust economy “paying for” reckless federal spending. Separately, inflation pushes the middle-class into higher tax brackets. This $4.7 trillion bill is a macroeconomic disaster.

Second, while $4.7 trillion is a mess, things get worse. As the Wall Street Journal observed, this is NOT a $4.7 trillion dollar bill. That, too, is a deception.

The real cost is far higher. Democrats are playing with language, placing traps that force higher spending. The stated price is a phony number.

Why? Because “Democrats are grasping for ways to finance their cradle-to-grave welfare state.”
Beyond twisting “reconciliation,” the $3.5 trillion bill “hides the real cost of their plans.”

For example, the “child allowance” increase will cost $1.1 trillion over a decade but is extended only to 2025, with the expectation that dependence will force extension on the GOP.

Another trick is Medicare expansion, with limited benefits over two years, then spiking them in 2028, described as saving $500 billion, as the massive jump is delayed.

Another trap: The “universal child-care entitlement” gives $90 billion to states, but only for five years, enticing providers to raise costs yet only paying a seven percent of any family’s costs.

Elsewhere, the bill forces States to pay for “universal pre-K entitlement” costs over time. Ditto for mandatory “free” community college, which will be hard to reduce once online and will absorb students from paid educational institutions.

Other tricks, half-truths, time shifts, hidden lags, mandates, and pretend “savings” appear through the bill.
See, e.g., Dems’ reconciliation bill has a $6B transportation ‘slush fund’ that GOP aide warns could fund backdoor earmarks. The bill is a lie.

Truth: This bill does not come anywhere near paying for itself. As the economy slows, costs incurred with higher obligations, mandates, taxes, and debt will multiply, with inflation and job cuts.

Notably, the Wall Street Journal confirms “the press has reported none of this,” adding, “do not expect an honest accounting from the Congressional Budget Office.” The bill is pure deception.

Third, bill contents are a disgrace, not honestly presented. One-fortieth of the bill is “traditional infrastructure,” while 39 fortieths redefine “infrastructure” as socialist largess, packaged as “must-have” federal entitlements, subsidies, and program growth.

Examples: Countless Democrat “wish list” programs, including within the $1.2 trillion bill “renewable energy,” “high speed internet,” “school and child-care” upgrades for water (traditionally state and local), “climate change resilience,” “electric vehicle” money, and vaguely defined “reconnection communities.”

The $3.5 trillion piece is worse, spending on leftist priorities, federalizing local programs, and gutting constitutional prerogatives – education and college to zoning and economic policy.

The list includes forcing “universal pre-K ,” “universal tuition-free community college,” “maternal, behavioral and racial health equity,” “pandemic preparedness” (maybe to include for elections?), “affordable housing,” “rental assistance,” “zoning” “public housing,” “clean electricity,” “weatherizing and electrifying homes,” “climate research,” money to “prevent wildfires,” “seek lawful permanent status” for immigrants, “community violence intervention initiatives,” “healthy oceans,” “low-income solar and climate-friendly” programs, “climate equity,” “green materials,” “electrification of the federal fleet,” a “Native Civilian Climate Corp” for Indian Reservations, and the list goes on.

Net-net, what does false price, false limits on spending, false payment scheme, open-ended socialist content mean? The Democrats’ “Infrastructure bill” is a massive deception.

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The Chamber of Commerce is hardly a far left group WB. You rely on partisan sources and as usual call any republicans that don’t tow the Trump talking points/and or lies at whatever particular moment rinos. Do you have anything that looks like you would put country over partisanship? Don’t worry, I gave up on you after Jan 6th.


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Btw Obamacare like infrastructure demonstrates the GOP’s ability to be against something until they actually have the power to get rid of it. Lots of votes to end Obamacare that stopped once they had the WH and Congress. Infrastructure was okay up till your fat orange pos wasn’t for it.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
The Chamber of Commerce is hardly a far left group WB. You rely on partisan sources and as usual call any republicans that don’t tow the Trump talking points/and or lies at whatever particular moment rinos. Do you have anything that looks like you would put country over partisanship? Don’t worry, I gave up on you after Jan 6th.

Any source you don't like is a "partisan source".

It's just your way to sweep away into a dismissive category any objective reported facts that present a case in opposition to the Bolsheviks you side with.

What I support are not "lies" or "partisanship" or "Trump talking points", I support the restoration of our Constitutional republic, and rolling back the Democrat-Bolshevik moves toward crushing that, and moving us toward becoming an authoritarian one-party nation, and crushing the capitalist system we've had for over 200 years. Your party openly despises that Constitutional republic. Yours is the party of Ilhan Omaar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and the barely hidden Marxism of the Obamas and the Clintons.

Whereas I've remained for over 40 years a Reagan conservative. My views have barely changed, and I've always considered myself only slightly right-of-center, as has been most of the entire nation in those 4 decades. But suddenly over the last 10 years, my unchanged views are suddenly portrayed by the slanderous Bolsheviks in your party and the media as "extreme", "right wing" , "white supremacist, and even "insurrectionist".

Yes, someone here is an extremist who is putting party over country, and it sure as hell isn't me. It's the Bolsheviks you side with, who openly talk about "destroying the Republican party so completely they can never come back" (N Y Times, Jennifer Rubin).
About putting Trump Republicans in Gulags, or just massacre-ing them all, all 74 million of them (several interviewed in Bernie Sanders' senior campaign staff, saying it on camera, as exposed in videos by Project Veritas).
Calling for videotaped public confessions of Trump officials, communist China-style, broadcast on television (former Clinton cabinet-member Robert Reich).
Having the federal goverment use HHS to take away the children of Trump supporters and raised by leftist federal-appointed caretakers, to indoctrinate them in the correct/leftist way of thinking (a senior PBS lawyer, as again exposed on video by Project Veritas).
Multiple Biden officials have openly said they want to destroy the oil, natural gas and coal industries in the United States. One Chinese-Marxist-educated pending CBO appointee openly said in the last few days that these industries have to be destroyed. Joe Biden as a candidate said this himself, that he wants to "destroy the fossil fuel industry".

One party are anti-American genocidal lunatics who openly state their rabid hatred of this country, and hatred of those who defend it.
And it sure as hell isn't me or the Republicans.

The problem with RINO Republicans who vote with the Democrats is that they naively make too much of an effort to reach out Democrats and be bipartisan, when they are blind to the things I just cited, and many more statements along those lines. They want to be "reasonable" and meet the Democrats halfway, in a naive belief Dems will soften their rhetoric and reciprocate with similar goodwill, not fully realizing they are dealing with the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Alinsky and Chaves. These RINOs blind themselves to the level of fanaticism of the Democrats, who OPENLY ADMIRE and EMULATE the tactics of these genocidal Marxists.
Transportation czar Ron Bloom, ON VIDEO: "We agree with Mao, that capitalism is mostly a sham, and that power is mostly administered at the barrel of a gun..."
FCC "diversity czar" Mark Lloyd, ON VIDEO: Hugo Chavez's authoritarian takeover o the Venezuelan media was "Very effective, and a good model to follow."
Anita Dunn.
Valerie Jarrett.
Van Jones.
These are the people whose words and actions you would like to pretend don't exist.

Democrats voted for Joe Biden as a moderate alternative to the fanaticism of Bernie Sanders and the rest of the 2020 Democrat far-left primary field, the Democrat Bolshevik-Left. But exactly as I predicted, Biden, far from a moderating force in the DNC, gave free reign to the worst elements in the Democrat party, and they are running wild. And the entire nation is terrified and turning on the Democrats.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/#!

I know you want to dismiss these as "right wing" polls and sources, but that is literally an amalgam of every national poll. Quinnipiac (a liberal source) currently has Biden's support polled at 36%. And V.P. Kamala Harris at 28%. That's barely 10 months after their inaauguration. These people literally destroy everything they touch.

84% polled don't want Biden and/or Harris to run for re-election in 2024. Your corrupt Bolshevik party is destroying itself. And the nation with it. There's absolutely no way to misinterpret that.

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your fat orange pos...

Is that your attempt at a civil discussion?
You are so unhinged, you sink to this, and reveal only yourself to be a "P O S" by doing so.


Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Btw Obamacare like infrastructure demonstrates the GOP’s ability to be against something until they actually have the power to get rid of it. Lots of votes to end Obamacare that stopped once they had the WH and Congress. Infrastructure was okay up till your fat orange pos wasn’t for it.

As I detailed above, Trump was for an ACTUAL infrastructure bill. But the majority of this bill is subsidies for "green" technology that doesn't work, and handouts to Democrat corporate allies and NGO's who will help them in the 2022 and 2024 campaigns. NOT actual "infrastructure". But spending that will cause hyperinflation that will negatively impact the lower and middle classes the worst.
In siding with the Democrats to pass this legislation, RINO Republicans betray the will and the best interests of the people who voted for them, and betray the national interest, for some hidden agenda, in a corrupt back-room deal, whose true purpose is hidden from the American public. That purpose is globalism, cultural marxism, and selling out the sovereignty of the United States. Its most immediate effect is inflation, that most adversely hurts the middle class and poor, even those middle class and poor who voted Democrat.

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Any source you don’t like is a partisan source WB. The Chamber of Commerce isn’t the radical left but you dismissed that because CNN reported on it. Trump lying about the infrastructure bill of course is no problem for you. Your use of “rino” no longer applies to actual conservative principles but is based on loyalty to lying pos wannabe authoritarian.


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Any source you don’t like is a partisan source WB. The Chamber of Commerce isn’t the radical left but you dismissed that because CNN reported on it. Trump lying about the infrastructure bill of course is no problem for you. Your use of “rino” no longer applies to actual conservative principles but is based on loyalty to lying pos wannabe authoritarian.

With all due respect, Trump sacrified a great deal to restore the nation's constitutional freedoms, and push back against the authoritarian power grab of the Democrat/Left. Your side wants no debate, they just want to intimidate and silence anyone who gets in their way. Kyle Rittenhouse is just the latest example of that, and Trump is the ultimate example of of a dissenter they want to crush and silence, and anyone who served in his administration. And any one of the 74.3 million who support Trump.

The chamber of commerce is essentially Wall Street, and all they care about is their corporate bottom line. They love printing of dollars and any kind of printing of money to prime the system, whether an economic bailout or a 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th round of Covid-19 stimulus. If Democrats pass trillions in spending legislation, that helps their bottom line and their shareholders, at least in the short term. They don't care about the best interests of the nation or its people, particularly the middle class and poor that deficit spending and printing of dollars is destroying. Nor are the Wall Street/ Chamber of Commerce bureaucrats concerned about U.S. national sovereignty. They are perfectly content to see the nation enslaved to China if it will boost their profits. And in that, they are whores who have no loyalty to the country. They are the John Boehners and the John MCains, and the Paul Ryans and the Mitch McConnells and the Andrew McCarthy's and the Ronna McDaniels (Romney's niece, by the way) and the Liz Cheneys and the Mitt Romneys and the Lisa Murkowskis and the Susan Collinses.

They posture about opposing Obamacare or other Democrat spending legislation and destruction of civil rights, but when it counts they vote with the Democrats, because they are in it for the money and are bought off, rather than doing the right thing for the national interest and the rights and safety of the American people. In other words, they are RINOs, who in truth are stealth Democrats, and fake Republicans, doing the OPPOSITE of what conservative voters elected them into office to do, to preserve, protect and defend. And they sell out and become lobbyists or are given high-paying cushy corporate jobs when they leave office, them and their children. Whether children of the Bidens, John Kerry, or any number of other corporate/lobbyist insiders, both Republican and Democrat. And China is just another lobbyist, who has bought off the Bidens and others in his administration.

And Democrats can always find one or several of these bureaucrat RINOs willing to front as "bipartisan", to prop up the Democrats' lying narrative. That doesn't make it true, or good for the nation. Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx are in that category. Likewise Mark Milley. Mike Pence made clear his true loyalties on January 6th. Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney have made clear they're also part of the Republican establishment/globalist/neo-con wing of the Republican party, who might as well be the Clintons. Did you happen to notice that George W. Bush and Cheney never said a word in criticism of Barack Obama during his 8 years, but came out of the woodwork to attack and slander President Trump? That makes CRYSTAL clear they are not Republicans, but some kind of agents within the Republican party. Likewise McCain. Likewise Romney, and all the other Republicans who signed bills to undermine Trump, or openly attacked him, but never attacked Obama or Biden. Anyone who is part of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the OAS, the Federal Reserve, and other globalist organizations that undermine U.S. sovereignty. I would certainly put the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in that category. Lou Dobbs would often target the Chamber for derision, as a group who openly undermined Trump and the national interest.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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I’ve listened to Trump’s calls to election officials in Georgia and his attempts to force his DOJ to lie about the election. (Just 2 off the top of my head) You are a fool if you think you look like someone that really hates authoritarian power grabs WB. The accusations you throw out in your long winded rants are the things Trump is usually blatantly guilty of. Fortunately I no longer bother to expect extremists like yourself to make sense or value democracy.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I’ve listened to Trump’s calls to election officials in Georgia and his attempts to force his DOJ to lie about the election. (Just 2 off the top of my head) You are a fool if you think you look like someone that really hates authoritarian power grabs WB. The accusations you throw out in your long winded rants are the things Trump is usually blatantly guilty of. Fortunately I no longer bother to expect extremists like yourself to make sense or value democracy.

Trump never weaponized to IRS to audit, intimidate and crush his political opposition. Barack Obama did. Bill Clinton did. As have LBJ, JFK, and FDR.

Trump, for all his criticism of the "enemy of the people" liberal partisan media, never tried to censor the media, never tried to shut any media out of White House press briefings, or to destroy them from even being able to broadcast the news at all. Barack Obama did. Judicial Watch FOIA-requested and detailed all the Obama White House internal communication plotting to do precisely that, which I've previously linked here.

Biden is going even further than that, trying to appoint a head of the FCC who wants to get OAN taken off of Direct TV, and wantss to do the same to Newsmax, FOX News and other conservative outlets. And within the last month, Direct TV (owned by A T & T) has announced they are ending OAN's contract sometime in April. Newsmax as well has been taken off several cable subscription services.

Obama started a war in Libya and destroyed that country, made it a haven for ISIS/Al Qaida terrorists in the process. Obama did so illegally, never at any point seeking Senate approval to go to war.
Trump at no point did so, he ended the Iraq war, BY ACTUALLY DEFEATING THE ENEMY, something neither W. Bush or Obama seemed the slightest bit interested in. Trump prevented the opening of a new war with Iran over Iran attacks in the Persian Gulf, and in doing so opposed the advisors (both Democrat and Republican neo-con advisors) that prevented us from unnecessarily going into another trillion-dollar war.
Conversely, Biden and his puppetmasters are doing their damnedest to start a war with Russia. He is trying to regain his lost support by becoming a war president ("Wag the Dog") but a majority of the nation no longer trusts Biden, so it's all for nothing. And Biden could inadvertantly start a much larger world war, far beyond his intended petty sabre-rattling.

Trump restored religious freedoms, created the most quantifiably prosperous economy in over 50 years, re-built and modernized our military, re-negotiated international trade agreements with the EU, Japan, South Korea, Canada, Mexico, Central America and South America, every major U.S. trading partner, negotiated a peace deal between Israel and its neighbors (for which Jared Kushner is right now about to receive a Nobel Peace prize), slashed business regulation, and in his closing months pressed to create multiple Covid-vaccines completed before election day, and announced by big pharma (for political reasons, to damage Trump in the election) AFTER the election. Among many other accomplishments. Trump is a vigorous defender of our Constitutional freedoms, he has restored much of what has been destroyed by multiple badd presidents of both parties over the last 30-plus years. Trump is quantifiably by his accomplishments equal to, or arguably surpassing Reagan, who Lou Dobbs has called "the most transformational president since FDR". Arguably a president who done what was best for the nation despite incredble Democrat/RINO/globalist/leftist opposition, on a part with Abraham Lincoln, who initiated reforms comparable to Teddy Roosevelt.

And we've seen Biden and the Democrats do their absolute damnedest to destroy everything Trump has rebuilt in a matter of months. The Democrats have tipped their hand and shown the level of revisionist/Marxist /globalist hatred they have for the country, in how much damage they have done to the country in barely a year. And as I pointed out in a previous topic, Biden's reign of terror began the moment Trump conceded on Jan 6.

So quantifiably, it's not Trump who at any time in his four years demonstrated himself to be authoritarian. Those authoritarian/Marxist tendencies clearly are manifest in the actions of multiple Democrat presidents, including both Trump's predecessor Obama, and his successor Biden (whose ultimate puppetmaster may again be Obama). And by a series of Constitution-trampling Democrat presidents going back to Woodrow Wilson. But never more nation-threatening than under Obama and Biden.


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