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http://www.kptv.com/story/31698341/most-voters-say-meh-at-best-on-the-presidential-field
WASHINGTON (AP) - Most American voters say "meh" - at best - about the 2016 field of presidential candidates in both parties.
That's according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which shows that a majority of Americans believe none of the remaining candidates for president represents their opinions at least somewhat well.
At least half of Americans say they would be disappointed or even angry if either of the front-runners - Donald Trump for the Republicans or Hillary Clinton for the Democrats - are nominated, the survey shows. And a quarter said they would be disappointed or angry if both win nominations. Still another quarter would feel at best neutral if both are nominated.
Among all registered voters, 63 percent say they wouldn't consider voting for Trump and half say the same about Clinton.
About one-fifth of those surveyed say they'd either probably or definitely vote for a third-party candidate if Trump and Clinton are the nominees.
Roland Bauer, 64, a retiree from Winter Springs, Fla., plans not to vote if Clinton and Trump are nominated. "I don't trust politicians," he says. "Everybody is on the take."
Bruce Bertsch, a libertarian and retired human resources director from San Diego, says the public's lukewarm reaction to the major-party hopefuls doesn't come from disinterest or apathy - quite the opposite. Here's how his friends and family see the candidates:
"Hillary Clinton is a liar. Donald Trump is an idiot. And Bernie (Sanders)? He's an old fool," Bertsch, 78, said in a telephone interview Monday. To Bertsch, the Republican and Democratic competitors look like this: "The Democrats want to spend my money. The Republicans want to tell me how to live my life - and then spend my money."
Even within their own parties, neither Trump nor Clinton generates much enthusiasm. Only 26 percent of Democratic voters say they'd be excited about Clinton being their nominee, and 27 percent say they'd be satisfied. Another 23 percent would feel neutral, 19 percent would be disappointed and 5 percent would be angry, the poll found.
Trump fares even worse among Republican voters, with 19 percent saying they'd be enthusiastic, 19 percent satisfied, 20 percent neutral, 25 percent disappointed and 16 percent angry.
Less than half of Americans say any of the remaining candidates, including Sanders, Ted Cruz or John Kasich, comes close to representing their opinions on the issues.
And in a year dominated by Trump-generated theatrics and his so-far scant policy details, substance matters, most voters say. Nearly 9 in 10 Americans call a candidate's positions on the issues extremely or very important to them.
Among all the remaining candidates, only Sanders, Clinton's Democratic rival, generates significantly more positive than negative ratings from Americans, with 48 percent saying they have a favorable opinion of him and 39 percent unfavorable. He's also the only candidate described by a majority of Americans as at least somewhat likable, civil, honest and compassionate.
Nearly 7 in 10 Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, nearly 6-in-10 have an unfavorable view of Cruz and a majority - 55 percent - have an unfavorable view of Clinton, according to the poll.
Americans are fairly evenly divided on Kasich, with 34 percent expressing a favorable view and 31 percent an unfavorable one. Another 34 percent still don't know enough about him to say.
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Nearly 7 in 10 Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, nearly 6-in-10 have an unfavorable view of Cruz and a majority - 55 percent - have an unfavorable view of Clinton, according to the poll.
Americans are fairly evenly divided on Kasich, with 34 percent expressing a favorable view and 31 percent an unfavorable one. Another 34 percent still don't know enough about him to say. When it comes to Trump, Hillary, Cruz and Sanders, I've frequently thought of this as the year of the unelectable candidate, all the way around. In fairness to Kasich, I think the response of many polled is "Who?" There are many better candidates who never seemed to get any traction. Largely because the media allowed Trump to suck all the oxygen away from them till they dropped out. There's absolutely no doubt that Trump is the candidate the media wants Hillary to run against, and they have certainly done their part to make sure he is the Republican with the most exposure, and is the last Republican standing. Even as they simultaneously minimize negative coverage and scrutiny of Hillary Clinton.
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I'm happy with the candidates on the dem side. As for the GOP side, this is what you get when you cultivate the crazies and worry about offending them. Either Clinton or Sanders won't have that problem with Trump or Cruz.
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You're okay with Hillary Clinton, who is guilty of treason (Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, and violating national security with her private server, who is being investigated for some of these by the FBI, and to top it all off is an Alinsky-trained cultural Marxist).
And you're just fine with Bernie Sanders (who is a socialist, and was an independent before registering Democrat only for this campaign, who would double the national debt that is ALREADY on the brink of collapsing the dollar. )
God help us if either of these America-hating fanatics get elected.
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Your willingness to make accusations doesn't make them true WB. As for economic plans, if that was truly a concern for you than you need to defend your support for Trump or any of them coming with unpaid for tax cuts and spending.
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Your willingness to make accusations doesn't make them true WB. As for economic plans, if that was truly a concern for you than you need to defend your support for Trump or any of them coming with unpaid for tax cuts and spending. Not me. The FBI and director Comey. Plus several news agencies and watchdog group that have used the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to obtain copies of whatever hasn't been redacted. Please also explain to me how it is honest of Hillary Clinton (vs fearing legal action and prosecution) for Hillary to have ignored sobpeonas and destroyed her private server to avoid having her e-mails retrieved. Likewise donations to the Clinton Foundation that are blatant payoffs by Wall Street firms such as Goldman Sachs, and brutal, murderous and misogynist governments such as Saudi Arabia, who have bought the silence of Hillary Clinton. And the fact that Hillary Clinton sold to the public that a Youtube video was responsible for the 9-11-2012 Benghazi attack on the U.S. Embassy, even as she e-mailed daughter Chelsea Clinton and the president of Libya that she knew it was an Al Qaida attack (while publicly giving lipservice to the lie alleging otherwise, blaming the Youtube video). And even selling the lie to the surviving families at their funeral. Nice attempt at changing the subject, though. But the subject is still Hillary Clinton's criminal behavior and blatant PROVEN lies. And that Hillary and Sanders are no less flawed candidates than Trump or Cruz. It is a source of laughter that you can even try to allege otherwise.
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Bengazi was a bust for your party and revealed how low it will go. If the FBI clears her your party is actually stuck eating the shit sandwich it's been making for a long time. And it would be interesting how you think Trump's spending wouldn't be a budget buster btw. He'll never win so probably a waste of time though.
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There's a difference between not being able to prove these charges, and being able to "slick Willie" her way past conviction, on charges that are obviously true.
Bill Clinton would have gotten away with his lies, perjury and cover-up, if not for Monica Lewinsky whipping out a semen-stained dress.
Again: the subject is whether Hillary and Sanders are more free of scandal than Trump or Cruz. They are certainly not.
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Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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My guess is like Benghazi, the FBI is going to find Hillary didn't commit any criminal acts. She's already wiping the floor with your top two front runners so I think you have a problem with what is "obviously true" when it comes to the general voting population that doesn't live in the republican information bubble.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/First off, these polls all show Democrats like Sanders better than they like Hillary. Second, the Republican side is a 3-way race, while the Democrat primary is a 2-way race. Third, Carter had a 30-point lead over Reagan in 1980, and Reagan still won. And Dukakis had a 17-point lead in 1988, and G H W Bush still won. And AGAIN, the issue you keep evading is that the Democrat candidates are not more scandal free than the Republican candidates. Hillary is more laden with scandal than any candidate I've ever seen. From bribes by foreign governments (Clinton Foundation) to treasonous violation of national security (sending top secret State Dept e-mails on her private server, ripe for Russian, Chinese and Iranian hacking) to deceiving the public and obstructing investigation of what really happened (Benghazi), and being soft on Islamic terrorism (Benghazi), and more treason (the Russian re-set, selling arms to questionable groups in Syria, making clear she'd do the same as Obama), in Iraq and Syria, and absolute silence regarding Russia invasion of Ukraine, again making clear she would do nothing there in the oval office as well. That she is guilty of all the above is beyond question. The only question is whether she will be prosecuted for these crimes. Or whether the Democrats will corruptly give Hitlery a free pass, just because she has a (D) next to her name. I foresee that even if the Justice Dept and FBI director push for Hillary's prosecution, Obama will ultimately pardon her before he leaves office. Because the Democrats truly have a contempt for the rule of law, and have no reservation about circumnavigating it to advance their own (cultural Marxist/radical) agenda.
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