Republicans will fight anything that allows greater numbers of people voting but what happened in WI was crazy. Big cities had their polling stations reduced to a fraction while voters essentially had to choose risking their lives to vote. That shouldn’t have happened. Also an obvious issue is Congress being able to vote during situations like this. Plus high speed internet for all needs to be an actual priority.
"Never let a crisis go to waste?", right?
Score another victory for the Bolshevik party, and their efforts to move their Trojan Horse inside the gates.
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He stopped short, however, of endorsing any new policy positions. Biden has opposed the types of big structural changes presented by Sanders, including Medicare-for-all and several key economic solutions. For Sanders’s part, he has used the pandemic to put forward a broad economic agenda, including a universal basic income of $2,000 per month until the economic crisis is over.
Still, it’s a shift to see Biden talking about structural change in his campaign. What’s become increasingly clear over the past several weeks is that returning to normal may not be possible, and Democrats may end up needing someone more than a normalcy candidate this fall.
That doesn't sound like anything approaching an endorsement of Biden. The far-left Vox are clearly dripping in their panties for Bernie Sanders. But that ship has sailed.
And that's different from the other 171 infected nations... how?
I would argue that Trump's exceptional economy (quantifiably the best economy in over 50 years) better allows the U.S. to endure the hardships of shutdown than other nations.
As I expressed earlier in the topic, I'm deeply concerned about not just the severe economic impact in the United States, but far more so the potential for a snowballing global economic collapse.
It’s just such a huge number. Even under best case scenarios this will have huge ramifications. I’ll just point out that most of the economic expansion happened under Obama’s last term and some of his first. Trump inherited a good economy and blew up the economy for not even much of a gain in GDP. His record now includes this.
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
WB can you provide me a quote from Biden about China’s handling of coronavirus that outdoes Trump’s gushing here? Pretty sad that Trump can butt lick China like that. Than again they both hate free independent news media so perhaps a common bond helps.
It’s just such a huge number. Even under best case scenarios this will have huge ramifications. I’ll just point out that most of the economic expansion happened under Obama’s last term and some of his first. Trump inherited a good economy and blew up the economy for not even much of a gain in GDP. His record now includes this.
You go on beleiving that, M E M. Eight Obama years, of which none achieved 2% growth, where Obama economic officials called that "the new normal", that they couldn't even imagine higher annual growth than that.
Then Trump becomes president, and achieves almost 4% growth his first year. Despite 3 devastating hurricanes that hit the U.S. that first year. Without which, Trump's policies likely would have achieve over 4% growth the very first year. If Obama's economic advisors could not even imagine 3% growwth, and did not achieve it in 8 years, how can they possibly take credit for over 3% growth in Trump's very first year? That puts the lie to your lips, M E M.
Trump has quantifiably the highest growth and the lowest unemployment in at least 50 years across a multitude of demographic categories. The lowest black employment ever recorded (annually measured since 1972). The lowest hispanic unemployment. The lowest women's unemployment since the 1950's. The lowest under-30 unemployment.
And that's not just lower than Obama. That's also lower than W. Bush, lower than Bill Clinton, lower than Bush Sr, lower than Reagan!
There's no way to spin that to say Obama had better economic performance. Those are the hard numbers.
Republicans will fight anything that allows greater numbers of people voting but what happened in WI was crazy. Big cities had their polling stations reduced to a fraction while voters essentially had to choose risking their lives to vote. That shouldn’t have happened. Also an obvious issue is Congress being able to vote during situations like this. Plus high speed internet for all needs to be an actual priority.
"Never let a crisis go to waste?", right?
Score another victory for the Bolshevik party, and their efforts to move their Trojan Horse inside the gates. ....
Honestly don’t you think after this some structural changes could be made? I’m sure there won’t be agreement on everything, probably even most but I would be surprised if the GOP doesn’t press and accept some itself.
It seems wrong to say we got lucky but imagine a virus that was this contagious with an even higher fatality rate. This could potentially prepare us for that if we act smart and implement things to prevent or blunt the next pandemic.
It’s just such a huge number. Even under best case scenarios this will have huge ramifications. I’ll just point out that most of the economic expansion happened under Obama’s last term and some of his first. Trump inherited a good economy and blew up the economy for not even much of a gain in GDP. His record now includes this.
You go on beleiving that, M E M. Eight Obama years, of which none achieved 2% growth, where Obama economic officials called that "the new normal", that they couldn't even imagine higher annual growth than that.
Then Trump becomes president, and achieves almost 4% growth his first year. Despite 3 devastating hurricanes that hit the U.S. that first year. Without which, Trump's policies likely would have achieve over 4% growth the very first year. If Obama's economic advisors could not even imagine 3% growwth, and did not achieve it in 8 years, how can they possibly take credit for over 3% growth in Trump's very first year? That puts the lie to your lips, M E M.
Trump has quantifiably the highest growth and the lowest unemployment in at least 50 years across a multitude of demographic categories. The lowest black employment ever recorded (annually measured since 1972). The lowest hispanic unemployment. The lowest women's unemployment since the 1950's. The lowest under-30 unemployment.
And that's not just lower than Obama. That's also lower than W. Bush, lower than Bill Clinton, lower than Bush Sr, lower than Reagan!
There's no way to spin that to say Obama had better economic performance. Those are the hard numbers.
I don’t have to believe in facts. The economic expansion started long before Trump was elected. You can play with stats to try to hide it but all the unemployment numbers were going down under Obama after recovering from a global recession.
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
WB can you provide me a quote from Biden about China’s handling of coronavirus that outdoes Trump’s gushing here? Pretty sad that Trump can butt lick China like that. Than again they both hate free independent news media so perhaps a common bond helps.
Biden brought along his son, Hunter Biden, and despite being a drug addict who was kicked out of the military for smoking crack, and despite that he had absolutely no experience in banking, the Chinese state bank extended him and his colleagues a $1.5 BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT DEAL. For which when the interest matriculates at somewhere between 2-6% commission, will give Hunter a payoff in the tens of millions of dollars. In addition to his other corrupt deals in Ukraine, which he ALSO got only because he was a passenger on Vice President Biden's plane into that country. Investigation and prosecution pending. Further, according to Chinese expert Michael Pillsbury, at the time Hunter Biden was given that 1.5 billion bank investment deal, Joseph Biden had fronted as a hawk against China. But immediately after that deal with son Hunter transacted, V.P. Biden used his influence to get U.S. Navy ships to stop patrolling certain parts of the South China Sea that Chinaa didn't want us patrolling. That's quid pro quo up the yingyang.
If you want to see much more of Biden's corruption and corporate backroom payoffs, just read the first 30 pages of Michelle Malkin's 2010 book, Culture of Corruption.
There are further Biden payoffs just with son Hunter Biden involving Amtrak and MBNA, both of which were huge donors to Biden as Deleware Senator, and young Hunter was appointed to each's board of directors with no experience, right out of college, just because he is Biden's son. For the level of influence of MBNA over Biden, he was jokingly called "The Senator from MBNA" instead of the Senator from Deleware. I worked for MBNA a few years. When MBNA was bought out by the Bank of America, they had become the largest issuer of credit cards in the world. MBNA and all the credit card companies all headquarter in Deleware because they have the most lenient interest laws of any state in the U.S. (meaning based in Delaware, they can charge higher interest rates nationwide than if based anywhere else in the U.S.)
That's just the tip of the iceberg regarding Joe Biden's corruption.
Regarding Hunter, the guy made millions from corrupt deals in Ukraine, China and Rumania (from Ukraine/Burisma alone, over 3 million), and while he was sleeping with the widow of his deceased brother, he was also frequenting strip clubs, smoking crack, and on top of that knocked up another girl. She sued him for $16,000 in child support he was not providing, despite all his corruptly obtained wealth. That's the kind of guy he is. And the corruption that connects to Joseph Biden himself, his sons and his brothers, all selling Biden's political office for profitable contracts to his family, are extensive.
I shit on Biden's integrity, and that of the entire corrupt Democrat party. As laid out in tecchnicolor detail by Malkin. See also Obamanomics by Tim Carney, or Clinton Cash or Profiles in Corruption by Peter Schweizer. There is no one the Chinese Communist Party would rather have in office than the Democrats, and Biden in particular, no one easier to buy off. Except for maybe the Clintons, or the Obamas, or Harry Reed, or Nancy Pelosi... all of which have enriched themselves off inside deals while in public office. Corrupt to the core.
I don’t have to believe in facts. The economic expansion started long before Trump was elected. You can play with stats to try to hide it but all the unemployment numbers were going down under Obama after recovering from a global recession.
So... you rely on your prejudice and zealotry over the quantifiable facts?
You are immune to logic. Frighteningly so. Guys like Castro, Mao and Stalin relied on the blind loyalty of guys like you. And there is very little difference between the ruthlessness of the Democrats and the ruthlessness of these murderous dictators. You don't even blink when the Obamas, the Clintons, Bernie Sanders and others in your party openly exhort praise on these murderous regimes, and you somehow believe they wouldn't engage in the exact same tactics as the authoritarian regimes they admire? With mentors like Frank Marshall Davis, Obama chief advisor Valerie Jarrett and her parents who worked for Soviet funded communist front group newspapers, Obama appointees Anita Dunn, Mark Lloyd, Ron Bloom who openly praised Mao Tse Tung, Obama mentor William Ayers who bombed police and military bases and hosted Obama's first political fundraiser in his home. Jeff Jones and the Apollo Alliance who wrote Obamacare's legislation.
I don’t have to believe in facts. The economic expansion started long before Trump was elected. You can play with stats to try to hide it but all the unemployment numbers were going down under Obama after recovering from a global recession.
So... you rely on your prejudice and zealotry over the quantifiable facts?
...partisan garbage.....
Your party is evil.
Really need to apply what you accuse to yourself, We both know that most of the drop in unemployment after the Great Recession occurred under Obama. You can’t even honestly acknowledge the gains under Obama. That happened while he expanded healthcare for more people and a gop that fought bailouts once Obama was in office. Now bailouts are good again and deficits only matter if a democrat wins the WH.
I don’t have to believe in facts. The economic expansion started long before Trump was elected. You can play with stats to try to hide it but all the unemployment numbers were going down under Obama after recovering from a global recession.
So... you rely on your prejudice and zealotry over the quantifiable facts?
You are immune to logic. Frighteningly so. Guys like Castro, Mao and Stalin relied on the blind loyalty of guys like you. And there is very little difference between the ruthlessness of the Democrats and the ruthlessness of these murderous dictators the leaders of your party OPENLY ADMIRE.
You don't even blink when the Obamas, the Clintons, Bernie Sanders and others in your party openly exhort praise on these murderous regimes, and you somehow believe they wouldn't engage in the exact same tactics as the authoritarian regimes they admire?
With mentors like Frank Marshall Davis, Obama chief advisor Valerie Jarrett and her parents who worked for Soviet funded communist front group newspapers (see Jarrett, Valerielisting at DiscoverTheNetworks for details). Obama appointee Anita Dunn. Obama FCC czar Mark Lloyd who praised Venezuela's authoritariaan takeover of that nation's media as "very effective, and a good model to follow". Ron Bloom who openly praised Mao Tse Tung, Obama mentor William Ayers who bombed police and military bases and hosted Obama's first political fundraiser in his home. Jeff Jones and the Apollo Alliance who wrote Obamacare's legislation.
Your party is evil.
Really need to apply what you accuse to yourself, We both know that most of the drop in unemployment after the Great Recession occurred under Obama. You can’t even honestly acknowledge the gains under Obama. That happened while he expanded healthcare for more people and a gop that fought bailouts once Obama was in office. Now bailouts are good again and deficits only matter if a democrat wins the WH.
Your capitalism-hating party under Obama sank the U.S. economy so low, for over 2 years AFTER Obama was elected, there was finally nowhere else to go economically but up. It was in spite of, not because of, Obama/Democrat policies that the U.S. economy finally began to recover. And even then Obamacare and smothering new regulations restricted growth. I worked about a year for a company in 2012-2013 where "full-time" was 30 hour a week, because they didn't want to be crushed by the expense of 40-hour full-time healthcare benefits. That held true for millions of employers, stifling economic expansion. Finally unleashed under Trump.
Your party is immersed in marxism, worships murderous authoritarian marxist dictators (I've cited examples multiple times), openly hates the very idea of America as the capitalist constitutional republic it has been for 250 years, and is hell-bent on destroying it and replacing it with a marxist utopia.
Your party's impulse at every turn is deception and misinformation, abuse of federal power, and authoritarian power grabs.
I repeat, based on the absolute facts: Your party is evil.
I added links to back up what I've said, what I've sourced many times previously. Far from "partisan garbage" it is thoroughly verifiable as the uncontestable facts. As compared with your lying propaganda and factless bumper-sticker talking-point slogans.
It’s extremely difficult to track vote fraud. Most states put only half-hearted efforts into purging their voter-registration rolls of the dead or those who’ve moved out of state. Prosecutions for vote fraud are rare. But prosecutions for perjury are rare, too — and not because it “doesn’t exist.” Earlier this year, the Virginia Voters Alliance found that more than 44,000 people were simultaneously registered to vote in Maryland and Virginia. Catherine Englebrecht’s True the Vote found some 6.9 million overlapping voter registrations in the 28 states they examined. For those unburdened by conscience who live close to the border, it’s more than possible to vote early and often.
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Several House seats, and one very significant Senate seat, were probably won by Democrats on the strength of illegal votes. In 2008, the authors note, Senator Al Franken won by just 312 votes in Minnesota. That seat was the sixtieth vote to give Democrats a filibuster-proof supermajority to pass major legislation such as Obamacare. “[Voting] participation by just 0.65 percent of non-citizens in Minnesota is sufficient to account for the entirety of Franken’s margin,” the authors write. “Our best guess is that nearly ten times as many voted.”
Conservatives just making accusations of voter fraud isn’t actually proof but I think you’ve made it clear that you’re just going to go with your partisan accusations and lies with name calling. Some states already have a mail voting system in place and it’s worked. It’s not okay to disenfranchise voters like they were in WI WB.
And after the Great Recession, that started before Obama took office, the unemployment rate went down year after year. Trump inherited a great economy and he had republicans that no longer demanded that the deficit needed to be dealt with. Likewise republicans feel very differently about bailouts these days. Bet that all changes if shitbag loses in 2020, right?
Conservatives just making accusations of voter fraud isn’t actually proof but I think you’ve made it clear that you’re just going to go with your partisan accusations and lies with name calling. Some states already have a mail voting system in place and it’s worked. It’s not okay to disenfranchise voters like they were in WI WB.
And after the Great Recession, that started before Obama took office, the unemployment rate went down year after year. Trump inherited a great economy and he had republicans that no longer demanded that the deficit needed to be dealt with. Likewise republicans feel very differently about bailouts these days. Bet that all changes if shitbag loses in 2020, right?
Linked and sourced, M E M. There's nothing I said that you can truly dispute.
When Trump was elected, the stock market surged in the two months before he was inaugurated,a sign of the market's confidence that Trump's new policy would be very good for business.
When Obama was elected in Nov 2008, the already declined market plunged to unimaginable new lows, and continued to up to and through his inauguration, a clear sign of the market's dread of what he would implement. The recession and job losses continued to plummet for more than the first two years of Obama's presidency. Finally, not because Obama did anything right, but just because the stock market had sunk so low that stocks were perceived as being under-valued and a bargain at that point, the market finally began to recover. And all along, the fed under Obama printed trillions and trillions (QE-1, QE-2, QE-3...), pouring printed cash into the economy, and still barely got a return on that printed cash. Not one year of even 2% annual growth in 8 years, the weakest recovery since the great depression. And further borrowing trillions beyond that in new deficit, that I term (combined with the Fed printing trillions) "burning the wick at both ends". No other president has poured so much into the economy and yet gotten such a small return on all that spending. The path of Weimar Germany, Zembabwe, and Venezuela.
The rest of what you front beyond that is just smoke and mirrors, to deflect and put a happy spin on what actually happened under Obama. Obama's campaign rhetoric to "fundamental transformation of America", indeed.
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr is asking China’s communist government to give him permission to speak with the many disappeared citizen journalists who sounded early alarms on the severity of the coronavirus outbreak, which began in the city of Wuhan. On Thursday, a Chinese government spokesperson suggested on Twitter that U.S. officials should visit China to experience “freedom,” and the FCC commissioner accepted the offer, adding that first he wants to speak with the brave journalists.
In a Twitter thread posted late Thursday, Carr said he would first “like to speak with Dr. Al Fen”, a doctor who worked in Wuhan’s Central Hospital, who tried to warn about the virus and quickly disappeared. His list followed with eight other brave doctors and citizens who risked their lives to save countless others, but were never to be seen again.
[ FCC commissioner Brendan Carr's incendiary twitter posts shown at link ]
Carr concluded his Twitter thread with some scathing questions for the Chinese official: “does your offer still stand? Or has it suddenly disappeared as things tend to do over there?”
Carr has long been an opponent of China’s authoritarianism and has raised concerns over their influence in the U.S. and he’s now taking aim at China Telecom Corp’s which wants to implement its services in the U.S. “It is time to reconsider our relationship with companies owned or controlled by the People’s Republic of China,” Carr said of the move in a statement Friday.
U.S. agencies, including the Department of Justice recommended Thursday that the FCC deny their operations citing “substantial and unacceptable national security and law enforcement risks associated with China Telecom’s operations.”
Some ballsy posts by the FCC commissioner, that must be humiliating for the Chinese government. And they richly deserve the humiliation. They still have not disclosed their research on the virus or allowed CDC or WHO scientists to examine the evidence of what occurred in China. And needless to say, the number of Covid-19/Wuhan flu cases and deaths are estimated anywhere from 15 to 50 times higher than the official Chinese communist government's state numbers.
Reporters and other investigators have tapped 2 sources to estimate the true unreported numbers: 1) the inventoried number of urns for cremated ashes that surged at funeral homes across China during and after the outbreak, 2) the number of individual cel phones across China that suddenly discontinued service across China. The early estimate, without the slightest Chinese communist government cooperation is at least 45,000 dead, and millions infected.
China will lose trillions in industry for this cover-up and deliberate infection of the world, as U.S. and other nations move manufacturing out of China. China suspended flights and travel within China during the outbreak to contain infection, but knowing how contageous and deadly this was, still allowed infected travellers out of China to nations worldwide. Monstrous.
And nations worldwide will seize Chinese assets and refuse to pay debts, to regain just a fraction of the devastation and mass death China has unleashed on their countries.
Conservatives just making accusations of voter fraud isn’t actually proof but I think you’ve made it clear that you’re just going to go with your partisan accusations and lies with name calling. Some states already have a mail voting system in place and it’s worked. It’s not okay to disenfranchise voters like they were in WI WB.
And after the Great Recession, that started before Obama took office, the unemployment rate went down year after year. Trump inherited a great economy and he had republicans that no longer demanded that the deficit needed to be dealt with. Likewise republicans feel very differently about bailouts these days. Bet that all changes if shitbag loses in 2020, right?
Linked and sourced, M E M. There's nothing I said that you can truly dispute. .....
US economy under Trump: Is it the greatest in history? Basically you’re trying to give Trump credit for things that mostly happened under Obama. At a certain point black unemployment did hit a record low under Trump for example. You’re technically correct but leave out that most of that drop in unemployment happened under Obama. Smoke and mirrors indeed.
March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” — Trump after meeting with Republican senators.
March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” — Trump after meeting with Republican senators.
You would make a great Soviet or Chinese Communist minister of propaganda, M E M.
Relative to the estimated 1 to 2 million estimated dead without the preventive measures Trump and his Coronavirus team enacted, the numbers would be a lot higher. If John Kerry or Obama, or Biden or Hillary were president, those numbers would be in the millions. Your side has made it clear they would have done nothing to stop travel from infected countries, nothing to secure our borders. They would have just let it happen. As Obama did in 2009 with H1N1/Swine Flu, where 60 million were infected, 375,000 hospitalized, 12,000 dead.
But please, go on with your lying talking points, that are in complete contradiction of the facts. While the U.S. has more in numbers, as a proportion of our population the infection and deaths are lower. And it is precisely because the U.S. has done more testing that we have identified more cases that are confirmed to be Corvid-19/Wuhan Flu. While China, the nation responsible, hides its records of Covid-19, and hoarded medical equipment to further deprive the rest of the world of the ability to protect themselves against what the Chinese unleashed. That is quite telling, that they suppressed air travel in[p/b] China, but knowingly allowed infected people to fly [b]out of China to infect other nations. While witholding and hoarding medical supplies other nations needed!
IT IS CHINA that is responsible for this global pandemic, not just in the United States, but across over 180 nations. But you hate America so much, you would undermine our president who is doing his best to contain the damage.
Originally Posted By: lying SHITBAG Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
Originally Posted By: lying SHITBAG Matter-eater Man
Conservatives just making accusations of voter fraud isn’t actually proof but I think you’ve made it clear that you’re just going to go with your partisan accusations and lies with name calling. Some states already have a mail voting system in place and it’s worked. It’s not okay to disenfranchise voters like they were in WI WB.
And after the Great Recession, that started before Obama took office, the unemployment rate went down year after year. Trump inherited a great economy and he had republicans that no longer demanded that the deficit needed to be dealt with. Likewise republicans feel very differently about bailouts these days. Bet that all changes if shitbag loses in 2020, right?
Linked and sourced, M E M. There's nothing I said that you can truly dispute. .....
US economy under Trump: Is it the greatest in history? Basically you’re trying to give Trump credit for things that mostly happened under Obama. At a certain point black unemployment did hit a record low under Trump for example. You’re technically correct but leave out that most of that drop in unemployment happened under Obama. Smoke and mirrors indeed.
It's certainly the best U.S. economy in 50 years. And clearly surpasses that under Obama, the Bushes, Clinton or even Reagan. Quantifiably.
For the billionth time, despite your lying partisan propaganda, Trump achieved DOUBLE Obama's annual growth in just his first year as president, whereas Obama never surpassed 2% any of his 8 years as president. PERIOD. THE END.
Obama's advisors called lower than 2% growth "the new normal", the best that could be hoped for, and they could not even imagine achieving higher growth than that. So it is absurd to say that Trump's DOUBLED annual growth in just his first year was actually achieved by Obama. It is just a blatant lie, for the Bolshevik human cattle like yourself who will believe whatever the Democrat Central Committee tells them.
Originally Posted By: lying SHITBAG Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
Originally Posted By: lying SHITBAG Matter-eater Man
Conservatives just making accusations of voter fraud isn’t actually proof but I think you’ve made it clear that you’re just going to go with your partisan accusations and lies with name calling. Some states already have a mail voting system in place and it’s worked. It’s not okay to disenfranchise voters like they were in WI WB.
And after the Great Recession, that started before Obama took office, the unemployment rate went down year after year. Trump inherited a great economy and he had republicans that no longer demanded that the deficit needed to be dealt with. Likewise republicans feel very differently about bailouts these days. Bet that all changes if shitbag loses in 2020, right?
Linked and sourced, M E M. There's nothing I said that you can truly dispute. .....
US economy under Trump: Is it the greatest in history? Basically you’re trying to give Trump credit for things that mostly happened under Obama. At a certain point black unemployment did hit a record low under Trump for example. You’re technically correct but leave out that most of that drop in unemployment happened under Obama. Smoke and mirrors indeed.
It's certainly the best U.S. economy in 50 years. And clearly surpasses that under Obama, the Bushes, Clinton or even Reagan. Quantifiably.
For the billionth time, despite your lying partisan propaganda, Trump achieved DOUBLE Obama's annual growth in just his first year as president, whereas Obama never surpassed 2% any of his 8 years as president. PERIOD. THE END.
Obama's advisors called lower than 2% growth "the new normal", the best that could be hoped for, and they could not even imagine achieving higher growth than that. So it is absurd to say that Trump's DOUBLED annual growth in just his first year was actually achieved by Obama. It is just a blatant lie, for the Bolshevik human cattle like yourself who will believe whatever the Democrat Central Committee tells them.
I can cite plenty more WB. You’re basically trying to pretend that the economy suddenly changed under Trump. The fact is most of this latest economic expansion happened under Obama. That is a fact. Trump did greatly increase the deficit with tax cuts that also juiced some of the economic numbers but that’s all gone now. I suspect his economic numbers are going to be under water by November.
March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” — Trump after meeting with Republican senators.
You would make a great Soviet or Chinese Communist minister of propaganda, M E M.
Relative to the estimated 1 to 2 million estimated dead without the preventive measures Trump and his Coronavirus team enacted, the numbers would be a lot higher. If John Kerry or Obama, or Biden or Hillary were president, those numbers would be in the millions. Your side has made it clear they would have done nothing to stope travel from infected countries, nothing to secure our borders. They would have just let it happen. As Obama did in 2009 with H1N1/Swine Flu, where 60 million were infected, 375,000 hospitalized, 12,000 dead.
But please, go on with your lying talking points, that are in complete contradiction of the facts. While the U.S. has more in numbers, as a prroportion of our population the infection and deaths are lower. And it is precisely because the U.S. has done more testing that we have identified more cases that are confirmed to be Corvid-19/Wuhan Flu. While China, the nation responsible, hides its records of Covid-19, and hoarded medical equipment to further deprive the rest of the world of the ability to protect themselves against what the Chinese unleashed. That is quite telling, that they suppressed air travel in China, but allowed knowingly infected people to fly to and infect other nations. While witholding and hoarding medical supplies other nations needed!
IT IS CHINA that is responsible for this global pandemic, not just in the United States, but across over 180 nations. But you hate America so much, you would undermine our president who is doing his best to contain the damage.
I’m not sure what you’re calling a lie? The quote is accurate. Are you trying to say Trump didn’t say that? You seem to just be accusing me of lying because you don’t like the facts. I think you would actually make a great minister of propaganda for Trump. Your hatred of a free press and loyalty to Trump makes you a natural.
Honestly if Trump expected and depended China to be honest and transparent on this he was a fool. Nor do I believe he didn’t have an idea by March that things were truly under control. And since Trump failed to actually lead during this pandemic, it’s going to actually be the Govenors and lower levels of government that stepped up during the crisis. The guy who spent the pandemic playing it down early on and constantly misinforming isn’t the hero here. I can’t imagine the endless undeserved self praise Trump is doing really sits well outside his loyal supporters.
CNN)A new report on the Trump administration's missteps in the early days of the coronavirus' spread into the US was published in the New York Times on Saturday, detailing new instances showing how President Donald Trump ignored the warnings of his advisers about the lethal infectious disease approaching America's doorstep.
According to the report, Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Department of Health and Human Services, convened the White House coronavirus task force on February 21. During his meeting, the group conducted a mock-up exercise of the pandemic. It predicted 110 million infections, 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths. As a result, the group "concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans." However, it would take more than three weeks for Trump to enact social distancing guidelines on March 16. Two days after that meeting Kadlec learned of human-to-human transmission from asymptomatic individuals, the Times report states. But instead of immediately implementing mitigation steps, the President's focus turned to messaging.
Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, issued a warning that the virus would disrupt daily life. Trump canceled a meeting where mitigation efforts would be discussed. Instead, he appointed Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the task force and funneled coronavirus messaging through him. There were also other administration officials who went on television saying the virus was contained. Over nearly three weeks from February 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The Times also describes how Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had been briefing the President on the issue. Azar "briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus" during a January 18 phone call. A few days later, in what appeared to be his first comments about the virus to the press, Trump told a reporter at Davos, "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's -- going to be just fine." On another call on January 30, Azar warned Trump of the possibility of a pandemic. Trump reportedly responded by saying Azar was being alarmist. ...
In China this reporting would never be allowed. Fortunately we have a free and independent press.
I’m not sure what you’re calling a lie? The quote is accurate. Are you trying to say Trump didn’t say that? You seem to just be accusing me of lying because you don’t like the facts. I think you would actually make a great minister of propaganda for Trump. Your hatred of a free press and loyalty to Trump makes you a natural.
A half-baked speculation from a media source that has been relentlessly been attacking Trump with similar unsourced allegations for over 3 years is NOT "accurate" or "facts". It is a hit job that alleges wrongdoing by Trump without any actual facts, just wild speculation by a newspaper source that has proven itself to be unrelentingly Democrat-partisan and hell-bent on trying to damage Trump. And really, to damage Republicans in general.
Originally Posted By: lying SHITBAG M E M
Honestly if Trump expected and depended China to be honest and transparent on this he was a fool. Nor do I believe he didn’t have an idea by March that things were truly under control. And since Trump failed to actually lead during this pandemic, it’s going to actually be the Govenors and lower levels of government that stepped up during the crisis. The guy who spent the pandemic playing it down early on and constantly misinforming isn’t the hero here.
I still fail to see where either you or any of your sources have made a solid case for where Trump did anything wrong. As soon as the CDC came to him and said restaurants and businessess and schools needed to be closed, Trump issued an advisory to close them. In late January, both China and the World Health Organization were still saying the virus was not transmissible human-to-human (only animal-to-human). And we STILL don't have disclosure from China of how many were truly infected or died there.
Even so, Trump went against the best CDC advisors and shut down travel from China to the U.S. on Jan 31st. But it eventually spread to the U.S. anyway, from Europe.
And again, I don't see where any of these "news" sources who are editorializing now that Trump didn't act more quickly, were sounding the alarm in February and early March. Quite the opposite, the media were downplaying the threat, Democrats like N Y city mayor Deblasio, Cuomo, Schumer and Pelosi were downplaying the threat, even as they called Trump "racist" and "over-reacting" for the protective measures President Trump did take!
As I've cited multiple times, there are multiple layers of steps Trump took early on to protect the country that Democrats never would have done. And were in fact calling Trump "racist" and "over-reacting" for doing what they now criticize as Trump's alleged under-reaction.
The Democrat and liberal-media hypocrisy is on full display. And they have no credibility to flip 180 degrees now and say the opposite now of what they were saying not even a month ago. This is just the latest slander-fest to try and discredit Trump. And meanwhile, Democrats hold up funding that should already be helping 30 million working Americans who have been deprived of all income, just so Democrats can extort funding from Republicans for museums, NPR and PBS, sanctuary cities, and abortion clinics.
Democrats and the liberal media are eagerly parroting the Chinese communist party's talking points. Nice job.
CNN)A new report on the Trump administration's missteps in the early days of the coronavirus' spread into the US was published in the New York Times on Saturday, detailing new instances showing how President Donald Trump ignored the warnings of his advisers about the lethal infectious disease approaching America's doorstep.
According to the report, Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Department of Health and Human Services, convened the White House coronavirus task force on February 21. During his meeting, the group conducted a mock-up exercise of the pandemic. It predicted 110 million infections, 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths. As a result, the group "concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans." However, it would take more than three weeks for Trump to enact social distancing guidelines on March 16. Two days after that meeting Kadlec learned of human-to-human transmission from asymptomatic individuals, the Times report states. But instead of immediately implementing mitigation steps, the President's focus turned to messaging.
Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, issued a warning that the virus would disrupt daily life. Trump canceled a meeting where mitigation efforts would be discussed. Instead, he appointed Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the task force and funneled coronavirus messaging through him. There were also other administration officials who went on television saying the virus was contained. Over nearly three weeks from February 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The Times also describes how Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had been briefing the President on the issue. Azar "briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus" during a January 18 phone call. A few days later, in what appeared to be his first comments about the virus to the press, Trump told a reporter at Davos, "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's -- going to be just fine." On another call on January 30, Azar warned Trump of the possibility of a pandemic. Trump reportedly responded by saying Azar was being alarmist. ...
In China this reporting would never be allowed. Fortunately we have a free and independent press.
First off, the New York Times is a paper that has made its holy mission to bring down Trump, and has multiple times reported unconfirmed sources that have blown up in their faces and hurt their credibility as a newspaper.
Second, I still don't see any specifics of anything that Trump did that quantifiably caused harm. Simultaneously, they ignore that N Y city mayor Deblasio, his health director, and other Democrat politicians were openly encouraging people in the New York area to "not be racist like Trump" and go out and socialize in Chinatown festivals and bars in New York city. Which JUST MIGHT be the reason that New York City is now experiencing the worst outbreaak of Covid-19 and deaths of ANY REGION IN THE WORLD!!!!!
But yeah, sure, blame it on Trump, who halted travel from China and stopped 20,000 potential Covid-19 infected people a day from entering the United States. Hindsight is 20-20, but the fact is, Trump did way more than any of his critics would have done. As their comments alleging he was racist and over-reacting for taking any preventive steps clearly demonstrates.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
Democratic Michigan state lawmaker has credited President Trump's publicizing of the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine with saving her life after her health "plummeted" when she contracted coronavirus. State Rep. Karen Whitsett of Detroit told "The Ingraham Angle" on Monday that if it wasn't for Trump pushing the drug through the Food and Drug Administration's approval process for off-label use and touting it repeatedly during his daily press briefings, she may not have made it through the terrible contagion.
"I really want to say that you have to give this an opportunity," she said. "For me, it saved my life. I only can go by what it is that I have gone through and what my story is, and I can't speak for anyone else. So that's not what I'm trying to do here. I'm only speaking for myself." Whitsett said she went into home quarantine on March 12 -- the she day she last attended a session at the State House in Lansing -- and her health quickly deteriorated over the following week.
"It took the longest [time] for me to actually be able to get an appointment and getting with my doctor, which was the 18th of March, and then actually getting the COVID test," she said, adding that at first, she thought she had only contracted a bout of pneumonia and was put on the popular antibiotic drug amoxicillin. On March 31, Whitsett continued, she tested positive for coronavirus and her well-being "just plummeted."
"It went from the headaches being severe to fluid building up in my lungs, to sweats breaking out to the cough and my breathing being labored," she said. "It all happened in a matter of hours." When Whitsett did make it to the hospital, she found out about a state order prohibiting the use of hydroxychloroquine. The Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, under Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, had issued the order, only for the governor to retract it several days later. "I did have a difficult time, even that day, obtaining the medication because of an order that was put down in my state," said Whitsett. "And it was on that day so you can imagine how terrified I was that I had to beg and plead and go through a whole lot to try to get the medication."
"I did have a difficult time, even that day, obtaining the medication because of an order that was put down in my state," said Whitsett. "And it was on that day so you can imagine how terrified I was that I had to beg and plead and go through a whole lot to try to get the medication." Whitsett says that she has chronic Lyme disease and had heard of hydroxychloroquine but would not have thought of it as a potential coronavirus treatment if not for Trump's briefings.
"If President Trump had not talked about this it wouldn't have been something that would be accessible for anyone to be able to get right now," she said, adding that within a few hours of taking her prescription, she was feeling much better.
Despite what Trump says this drug does have some side effects that can be fatal and he’s lying when he says there is nothing to lose. This was something he should have let his experts handle instead of his usual load of misinformation.
CNN)A new report on the Trump administration's missteps in the early days of the coronavirus' spread into the US was published in the New York Times on Saturday, detailing new instances showing how President Donald Trump ignored the warnings of his advisers about the lethal infectious disease approaching America's doorstep.
According to the report, Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Department of Health and Human Services, convened the White House coronavirus task force on February 21. During his meeting, the group conducted a mock-up exercise of the pandemic. It predicted 110 million infections, 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths. As a result, the group "concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans." However, it would take more than three weeks for Trump to enact social distancing guidelines on March 16. Two days after that meeting Kadlec learned of human-to-human transmission from asymptomatic individuals, the Times report states. But instead of immediately implementing mitigation steps, the President's focus turned to messaging.
Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, issued a warning that the virus would disrupt daily life. Trump canceled a meeting where mitigation efforts would be discussed. Instead, he appointed Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the task force and funneled coronavirus messaging through him. There were also other administration officials who went on television saying the virus was contained. Over nearly three weeks from February 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The Times also describes how Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had been briefing the President on the issue. Azar "briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus" during a January 18 phone call. A few days later, in what appeared to be his first comments about the virus to the press, Trump told a reporter at Davos, "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's -- going to be just fine." On another call on January 30, Azar warned Trump of the possibility of a pandemic. Trump reportedly responded by saying Azar was being alarmist. ...
In China this reporting would never be allowed. Fortunately we have a free and independent press.
First off, the New York Times is a paper that has made its holy mission to bring down Trump, and has multiple times reported unconfirmed sources that have blown up in their faces and hurt their credibility as a newspaper.
Second, I still don't see any specifics of anything that Trump did that quantifiably caused harm. Simultaneously, they ignore that N Y city mayor Deblasio, his health director, and other Democrat politicians were openly encouraging people in the New York area to "not be racist like Trump" and go out and socialize in Chinatown festivals and bars in New York city. Which JUST MIGHT be the reason that New York City is now experiencing the worst outbreaak of Covid-19 and deaths of ANY REGION IN THE WORLD!!!!!
But yeah, sure, blame it on Trump, who halted travel from China and stopped 20,000 potential Covid-19 infected people a day from entering the United States. Hindsight is 20-20, but the fact is, Trump did way more than any of his critics would have done. As their comments alleging he was racist and over-reacting for taking any preventive steps clearly demonstrates.
Ignoring his intelligence warning him of the pandemic certainly did cause harm. Apparently you seem to think a mayor who didn’t have access to the intelligence the POTUS did was supposed to make more informed decisions. Trump said nobody could have seen it coming. I think that is an obvious lie. He just made bad decisions and ignored his own intelligence. The one thing Trump did do earlier on is being way overblown. As I cited earlier Trump actually didn’t halt all travel from China. US citizens were not restricted. With such a contagious virus it was pretty foolish to somehow think the virus respected someone’s citizenship. It’s not a case of hindsight. It’s a case of an unfit leader and a nation paying a steeper price for it.
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In recent days, Mr. Trump has denied that he saw the memo at the time. But The Times report reveals that aides raised it with him at the time and that he was unhappy that Mr. Navarro had put his ideas in writing.
Despite what Trump says this drug does have some side effects that can be fatal and he’s lying when he says there is nothing to lose. This was something he should have let his experts handle instead of his usual load of misinformation.
More liberal media propaganda.
I see interviews with multiple doctors every day detailing their frustration over the Democrat-state resistance to Hydroxychloroquine, a medication that for them is proven to be effective in saving lives and even preventing patients from being hospitalized and ending up on a respirator. But clearly, Democrats like the Michigan governor would prefer to let people die rather than give credit to Trump for suggesting a medication that has been demonstrated to work.
As I cited in an earlier post, the foremost physician in the U.S. treating Lupus patients, who has treated thousands of Lupus patients in his 42 years, has prescribed hydrochloroquine for decades, and says he has never seen health-threatening side effects or hospitalization of a patient over Hydrochloroquine. And many of his patients have been prescribed hydrochloroquine for years, not just 5 days as is prescribed for Covid-19.
Further, there was a study I read where they asked doctors in 40 countries what they prescribed to treat Covid-19 patients, and overwhelmingly, 3,300 doctors said their treatment of choice is hydroxychloroquine. A French doctor with hundreds of Covid-19 patients expressed astonishment at the resistance to Hydroxychloroquine by [Democrat] officials in the U.S.
Something you would never guess at watching the Hydroxychloroquine fear-porn on CNN and MSNBC.
As I cited just a few posts above, a Michigan Democrat state representative said she was at death's door, and despite obstacles set up by the Michigan governor, fought like hell to get the drug, and made an immediate recovery. She said it was only because she saw Trump discussing it at one of his daily press conferences that she knew it existed and to request it. She credits President Trump with saving her life.
I don't expect to see that reported on CNN or MSNBC.
CNN)A new report on the Trump administration's missteps in the early days of the coronavirus' spread into the US was published in the New York Times on Saturday, detailing new instances showing how President Donald Trump ignored the warnings of his advisers about the lethal infectious disease approaching America's doorstep.
According to the report, Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Department of Health and Human Services, convened the White House coronavirus task force on February 21. During his meeting, the group conducted a mock-up exercise of the pandemic. It predicted 110 million infections, 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths. As a result, the group "concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans." However, it would take more than three weeks for Trump to enact social distancing guidelines on March 16. Two days after that meeting Kadlec learned of human-to-human transmission from asymptomatic individuals, the Times report states. But instead of immediately implementing mitigation steps, the President's focus turned to messaging.
Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, issued a warning that the virus would disrupt daily life. Trump canceled a meeting where mitigation efforts would be discussed. Instead, he appointed Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the task force and funneled coronavirus messaging through him. There were also other administration officials who went on television saying the virus was contained. Over nearly three weeks from February 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The Times also describes how Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had been briefing the President on the issue. Azar "briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus" during a January 18 phone call. A few days later, in what appeared to be his first comments about the virus to the press, Trump told a reporter at Davos, "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's -- going to be just fine." On another call on January 30, Azar warned Trump of the possibility of a pandemic. Trump reportedly responded by saying Azar was being alarmist. ...
In China this reporting would never be allowed. Fortunately we have a free and independent press.
First off, the New York Times is a paper that has made its holy mission to bring down Trump, and has multiple times reported unconfirmed sources that have blown up in their faces and hurt their credibility as a newspaper.
Second, I still don't see any specifics of anything that Trump did that quantifiably caused harm. Simultaneously, they ignore that N Y city mayor Deblasio, his health director, and other Democrat politicians were openly encouraging people in the New York area to "not be racist like Trump" and go out and socialize in Chinatown festivals and bars in New York city. Which JUST MIGHT be the reason that New York City is now experiencing the worst outbreaak of Covid-19 and deaths of ANY REGION IN THE WORLD!!!!!
But yeah, sure, blame it on Trump, who halted travel from China and stopped 20,000 potential Covid-19 infected people a day from entering the United States. Hindsight is 20-20, but the fact is, Trump did way more than any of his critics would have done. As their comments alleging he was racist and over-reacting for taking any preventive steps clearly demonstrates.
Ignoring his intelligence warning him of the pandemic certainly did cause harm. Apparently you seem to think a mayor who didn’t have access to the intelligence the POTUS did was supposed to make more informed decisions. Trump said nobody could have seen it coming. I think that is an obvious lie. He just made bad decisions and ignored his own intelligence. The one thing Trump did do earlier on is being way overblown. As I cited earlier Trump actually didn’t halt all travel from China. US citizens were not restricted. With such a contagious virus it was pretty foolish to somehow think the virus respected someone’s citizenship. It’s not a case of hindsight. It’s a case of an unfit leader and a nation paying a steeper price for it.
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In recent days, Mr. Trump has denied that he saw the memo at the time. But The Times report reveals that aides raised it with him at the time and that he was unhappy that Mr. Navarro had put his ideas in writing.
This is from the same paper that tried to revive the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh, a story that blew up in their faces when people quoted in the article went public and said "I never said this". And the other "confirming source" turned out to be a partisan Democrat lawyer with a grudge against Kavanaugh from when they clashed during the Whitewater speciaal investigation over 20 years ago.
That's on top of getting the Russia "Collusion" investigation wrong, the Mueller special investigation wrong, the Eric Ciaramella whistleblower/Ukraine story wrong, and many other stories from the New York Times over the last 3 years where they reported something, and it was proven to be completely false a day or two later, no sources, no facts, just another Democrat/liberal-media attack on the president. The N Y Times also alleged Fauci and Trump were clashing and parting ways when on one day Fauci was not onstage because of other commitments. No apologies or correction from the media. The N Y Times also alleged that Trump was infected with Covid-19, so Trump took a Covid-19, and Vice President Pence, to prove they were not infected. Then the media railed on how Trump had access to Covid-19 testing that most of America doesn't.
So once again, with no sources or facts, this is just another propaganda New York Times hit job.
Why are you so obsessed with slandering Trump? I think it's to hide the incompetence and hypocrisy in your own Democrat Bolshevik party. Who railed on Trump as "over-reacting" and "racist" for taking the preventive steps that he did, demonstrating that they the Democrats would do a lot less to protect the country if they had the White House. And after 2 months, Biden finally admitted that Trump made the right move Jan 31st by suspending all travel from China. Again, that was 20,000 potentially infected Chinese travellers a day who would have been entering the country.
Your Trump-misdirecting propaganda campaign also hides that Democrats like Cuomo, Deblasio and Pelosi were openly encouraging people to go to social festivals in New York and California where huge numbers were infected at a rate far higher than anywhere in the country. Why does New York have a higher infection rate than anywhere else in the world? THAT'S WHY.
Your lying propaganda campaign also hides that New York City since 1993, and especially since 9-11-2001, has been well known as the most sought-after islamic and bioterrorism target in the world, and in a 2015 report which I linked in an above post Gov. Andrew Cuomo was specifically warned that he was short several thousand respirators. But Cuomo ignored that report and spent money on green energy environmental projects instead, and now blames Trump for his own failure.
Your Democrat Bolshevik party, and the liberal media that beds with them, are completely reliant on deception, misdirection, and scapegoat demagoguery to re-direct the voters from their own incompetence, failures, and Bolshevik radicalism.
The New York Times is just another subservient wing of that propaganda beast. And that's why increasingly less of the public trusts the the N Y Times or any of the liberal media have to say. It was especially satisfying that the entire liberal media, and all but 2 major newspapers endorsed Hillary, and yet she lost in an electoral landslide. Despite that same liberal media's touting the unbreakable elecectoral "blue wall" that was supposed to guarantee Hillary Rodent Clinton'ss electoral victory. And the public trust in the media has far deteriorated since then. Three straign years of getting it wrong and being exposed as the partisan liars they are. How much less credibility now? Story after story after story, for 3 years, they've gotten it wrong.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
CNN)A new report on the Trump administration's missteps in the early days of the coronavirus' spread into the US was published in the New York Times on Saturday, detailing new instances showing how President Donald Trump ignored the warnings of his advisers about the lethal infectious disease approaching America's doorstep.
According to the report, Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Department of Health and Human Services, convened the White House coronavirus task force on February 21. During his meeting, the group conducted a mock-up exercise of the pandemic. It predicted 110 million infections, 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths. As a result, the group "concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans." However, it would take more than three weeks for Trump to enact social distancing guidelines on March 16. Two days after that meeting Kadlec learned of human-to-human transmission from asymptomatic individuals, the Times report states. But instead of immediately implementing mitigation steps, the President's focus turned to messaging.
Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, issued a warning that the virus would disrupt daily life. Trump canceled a meeting where mitigation efforts would be discussed. Instead, he appointed Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the task force and funneled coronavirus messaging through him. There were also other administration officials who went on television saying the virus was contained. Over nearly three weeks from February 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, more than half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The Times also describes how Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had been briefing the President on the issue. Azar "briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus" during a January 18 phone call. A few days later, in what appeared to be his first comments about the virus to the press, Trump told a reporter at Davos, "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's -- going to be just fine." On another call on January 30, Azar warned Trump of the possibility of a pandemic. Trump reportedly responded by saying Azar was being alarmist. ...
In China this reporting would never be allowed. Fortunately we have a free and independent press.
First off, the New York Times is a paper that has made its holy mission to bring down Trump, and has multiple times reported unconfirmed sources that have blown up in their faces and hurt their credibility as a newspaper.
Second, I still don't see any specifics of anything that Trump did that quantifiably caused harm. Simultaneously, they ignore that N Y city mayor Deblasio, his health director, and other Democrat politicians were openly encouraging people in the New York area to "not be racist like Trump" and go out and socialize in Chinatown festivals and bars in New York city. Which JUST MIGHT be the reason that New York City is now experiencing the worst outbreaak of Covid-19 and deaths of ANY REGION IN THE WORLD!!!!!
But yeah, sure, blame it on Trump, who halted travel from China and stopped 20,000 potential Covid-19 infected people a day from entering the United States. Hindsight is 20-20, but the fact is, Trump did way more than any of his critics would have done. As their comments alleging he was racist and over-reacting for taking any preventive steps clearly demonstrates.
Ignoring his intelligence warning him of the pandemic certainly did cause harm. Apparently you seem to think a mayor who didn’t have access to the intelligence the POTUS did was supposed to make more informed decisions. Trump said nobody could have seen it coming. I think that is an obvious lie. He just made bad decisions and ignored his own intelligence. The one thing Trump did do earlier on is being way overblown. As I cited earlier Trump actually didn’t halt all travel from China. US citizens were not restricted. With such a contagious virus it was pretty foolish to somehow think the virus respected someone’s citizenship. It’s not a case of hindsight. It’s a case of an unfit leader and a nation paying a steeper price for it.
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In recent days, Mr. Trump has denied that he saw the memo at the time. But The Times report reveals that aides raised it with him at the time and that he was unhappy that Mr. Navarro had put his ideas in writing.
This is from the same paper that tried to revive the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh, a story that blew up in their faces when people quoted in the article went public and said "I never said this". And the other "confirming source" turned out to be a partisan Democrat lawyer with a grudge against Kavanaugh from when they clashed during the Whitewater speciaal investigation over 20 years ago.
That's on top of getting the Russia "Collusion" investigation wrong, the Mueller special investigation wrong, the Eric Ciaramella whistleblower/Ukraine story wrong, and many other stories from the New York Times over the last 3 years where they reported something, and it was proven to be completely false a day or two later, no sources, no facts, just another Democrat/liberal-media attack on the president. The N Y Times also alleged Fauci and Trump were clashing and parting ways when on one day Fauci was not onstage because of other commitments. No apologies or correction from the media. The N Y Times also alleged that Trump was infected with Covid-19, so Trump took a Covid-19, and Vice President Pence, to prove they were not infected. Then the media railed on how Trump had access to Covid-19 testing that most of America doesn't.
So once again, with no sources or facts, this is just another propaganda New York Times hit job.
Why are you so obsessed with slandering Trump? I think it's to hide the incompetence and hypocrisy in your own Democrat Bolshevik party. Who railed on Trump as "over-reacting" and "racist" for taking the preventive steps that he did, demonstrating that they the Democrats would do a lot less to protect the country if they had the White House. And after 2 months, Biden finally admitted that Trump made the right move Jan 31st by suspending all travel from China. Again, that was 20,000 potentially infected Chinese travellers a day who would have been entering the country.
Your Trump-misdirecting propaganda campaign also hides that Democrats like Cuomo, Deblasio and Pelosi were openly encouraging people to go to social festivals in New York and California where huge numbers were infected at a rate far higher than anywhere in the country. Why does New York have a higher infection rate than anywhere else in the world? THAT'S WHY.
Your lying propaganda campaign also hides that New York City since 1993, and especially since 9-11-2001, has been well known as the most sought-after islamic and bioterrorism target in the world, and in a 2015 report which I linked in an above post Gov. Andrew Cuomo was specifically warned that he was short several thousand respirators. But Cuomo ignored that report and spent money on green energy environmental projects instead, and now blames Trump for his own failure.
Your Democrat Bolshevik party, and the liberal media that beds with them, are completely reliant on deception, misdirection, and scapegoat demagoguery to re-direct the voters from their own incompetence, failures, and Bolshevik radicalism.
The New York Times is just another subservient wing of that propaganda beast. And that's why increasingly less of the public trusts the the N Y Times or any of the liberal media have to say. It was especially satisfying that the entire liberal media, and all but 2 major newspapers endorsed Hillary, and yet she lost in an electoral landslide. Despite that same liberal media's touting the unbreakable elecectoral "blue wall" that was supposed to guarantee Hillary Rodent Clinton'ss electoral victory. And the public trust in the media has far deteriorated since then. Three straign years of getting it wrong and being exposed as the partisan liars they are. How much less credibility now? Story after story after story, for 3 years, they've gotten it wrong.
Actually the Times story is sourced but they are anonymous. Also Trump has acknowledged at least part of it but says he never saw it. It would be pretty amazing that he had no briefings or intelligence warning him of a pandemic or steps to prepare for one prior to March. Trump has told so many lies he has zero credibility. Even quoting Trump on his actual lying on tape gets attacked as “fake media”. No, you can keep attacking me personally all you want WB but I will keep holding shitbag accountable. “I take no responsibility “ Trump needs to have his fat ass thrown out in November. And I think he owes everyone that has Covid a big hug before than.
We’re on the side of democracy WB. When a president says their authority is total that should bother everyone.
No, you (the Democrats) are parroting the lying talking points of China, and are therefore on China's side, against democracy and the American people. If Hillary Clinton were president, we'd have the predicted 2 million deaths, no travel bans (which your side, like the Chinese propaganda regard as "racist") and a wide open southern border to further spread the virus. Plus no pushback or negotiations against unfair trade practices and outright theft by China, and theey would have far surpassed us economically. Plus Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden and Biden's brother would have all cut huge billion-dollar dealss to enrich themselves, at the cost of the nation and U.S. taxpayers who would suffer for it. Your party is viciously anti-American, and only about proifiting off this nation's corpse. #JoeChina
There's plenty of pre-existing evidence of Biden and his family's 50 years of corrupt payoffs. And likewise Bill and Hillary Clinton. And Pelosi. And Harry Reid.
So in the middle of a pandemic Trump halts funding of WHO.
A World Health Organization headed by a corrupt leader bought and paid for and appointed to head the WHO by the Chinese government.
A WHO that didn't investigate the Wuhan Flu outbreak, that told us (on China's lying talking points) that Covid-19 was only transferrable animal-to-human, and not human-to-human, not a danger to the U.S. or the world. But it was. And the WHO head called Trump "racist" for implementing a travel ban on China, that turned out to be the right move that sheilded the U.S. from a much greater outbreak. At every stage, the WHO has offered the worldd no protection, and loyally fronted whatever lies the Chinese government was promoting.
As have the Democrats and the liberal media here in the U.S.
The **minimum** Trump should accept to restore funding for the WHO is the immediate resignation of their entire leadership, a full investigation and restructuring of the WHO, with new highly trusted medical experts appointed by the industrialized nations most impacted by the outbreak. I would actually prefer if those funds were moved to creating a U.S. pandemic response medical team, entirely controlled by and trusted by the government and people of the United States. Take that trust away from the corrupt U.N.
I increasingly think Fauci (NIH) and Redfield (CDC) should be replaced after this crisis too. They were unprepared for this crisis, despite that Fauci predicted this kind of a pandemic in a videotaped Jan 2017 conference speech, and yet did nothing to prepare for it. And Fauci was giving assurances that the U.S. was not in danger, and that U.S. nationals should be safe taking cruises as late as March 7th! And That Redfield is responsible for the delays in having an available test kit that prevented us from targeting and isolating these cases early. Five weeks later, we are still waiting for the tests. Fauci and Redfield have also delayed treatment on "untested" therapies like Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir, despite that these have been used for a month in Europe and elsewhere. There are 2,000 sample test patients dying every day, and as I said above, a majority doctors in 40 other nations have proven the effectiveness of these drugs in preventing death in almost 100% of cases. These guys are bureaucrats sitting on their hands, while Trump is pushing to implement these cures that have saved lives worldwide, and should be doing the same in greater numbers here in the U.S.
The CDC even funded viral studies in China, even as the Chinese were witholding information from the CDC. They are too chummy with the Chinese and WHO who betrayed us.
A month ago, this crisis emerged from China, slipping under the radar because of hidden and misleading information from the Chinese communist government and their paid stooges at the WHO. A month ago and now, Democrats and the liberal media are repeating the lying Chinese talking points verbatim. Making clear whose side they're on.
China expert Gordon Chang looks at the facts and comes to the conclusion that China knew how infectious and deadly this virus is, and purposely allowed the virus to leave China and infect the rest of the world, so that out of the wreckage China would emerge with greater hegemonic influence over the rest of the world.
Through the WHO, China tried to sucker the United States, but Trump didn't buy it and established a ban on travel from China. But through Europe, it was still later indirectly spread to the United States. While it appears the initial release of the Covid-19 virus was an accident, China cut their losses and weaponized it against the world. And used the China-subservient WHO to issue assurances to sucker the rest of the world. Despite that Taiwan researchers warned the WHO that the virus was highly contagious and lethal, due to Red China's influence, Taiwan was ignored and silenced by the WHO.
Some of the questions asked about various conspiracy theories are hilariously absurd. At first I thought some were dumb questions to even ask, but they are probably questions many are asking, even though they are not considered sophisticated questions. And sometimes what is at face absurd is actually what really happened. Such as Xi and a compliant WHO, that deliberately spread Covid-19 worldwide to 200 other nations, when they could have stopped it.
And the Democrats and liberal media are still aiding China's lying narrative, siding against the U.S., and against Trump. That is discussed by Chang as well.
