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#1232224 - Sat Jun 27 2020 11:41 AM Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers
Matter-eater Man
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Russia Offered Afghan Militants Bounties for Killing U.S. Soldiers: NYT
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United States intelligence agents believe that Russia offered Afghan militants bounties to kill U.S. soldiers and other coalition troops during peace talks between the U.S. and the Taliban, The New York Times reports. The talks were part of an effort to wind down U.S. military presence in the Middle Eastern nation, but the covert effort by Russia appears aimed at undermining them. U.S. intelligence officers reportedly reached the startling conclusion months ago and have been debating a response since. President Donald Trump has been briefed on the matter, as has the White House National Security Council, but neither has made a direct response. Islamist militants and their associates killed 20 U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan in 2019, and intelligence officers believe that the insurgents did collect bounties from Russia, but itís unclear how many of those deaths are considered paid for by Russia.


So while Trump was pushing for Russia to be included into the G7 he knew they were doing this.

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#1232226 - Sat Jun 27 2020 10:50 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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Where does it say he knew it at the time? It says heís been briefed but not when the briefing occurred.
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#1232231 - Sun Jun 28 2020 07:45 AM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: the G-man]
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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Where does it say he knew it at the time? It says heís been briefed but not when the briefing occurred.


The WH now says he wasnít briefed. I suspect that isnít true but if so itís pretty disturbing that information wasnít presented to him. Trump should be upset at those who failed him on not getting that vital information to him. So far his response has been to attack the media for reporting on it. Why canít he show the same passion for bounties being placed on our guys that he does for stone replicas of those that betrayed this country?

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#1232233 - Sun Jun 28 2020 01:52 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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...or, like a lot of anonymously sourced stories, itís BS. Iíll adopt a wait and see attitude.
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#1232234 - Sun Jun 28 2020 02:55 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: the G-man]
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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
...or, like a lot of anonymously sourced stories, itís BS. Iíll adopt a wait and see attitude.


I can understand the whole anonymous source and wait and see attitude G-man. I do think itís something very much in the realm of Trump though. The denials from what Iíve seen so far donít extend to the intelligence itself but that it never reached anyone in the WH.

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#1232236 - Sun Jun 28 2020 05:51 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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I just saw a general interviewed on OAN, and he said that five high-level Trump and military officials have denied that Trump was briefed so far. As he put it, there is always documentation of meetings, particularly with classified military information, and there is no way these high-level people would deny Trump was advised, if there was documentation out there proving that he was advised.

Increasingly, "anonymous source" at the New York Times translates to: we hate Trump so much we just made something up to bury him in false allegations. BIDEN 2020!!



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#1232237 - Sun Jun 28 2020 06:13 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Kind of funny how this article is coming out right around the time the investigation into the intelligence community abusing its powers vs General Flynn seems to be heating up
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#1232238 - Sun Jun 28 2020 06:20 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Wonder Boy]
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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


I just saw a general interviewed on OAN, and he said that five high-level Trump and military officials have denied that Trump was briefed so far. As he put it, there is always documentation of meetings, particularly with classified military information, and there is no way these high-level people would deny Trump was advised, if there was documentation out there proving that he was advised.

Increasingly, "anonymous source" at the New York Times translates to: we hate Trump so much we just made something up to bury him in false allegations. BIDEN 2020!!



Just to note everything you just provided there is anonymous besides OAN that doesnít appear to be anything but a pro-Trump propaganda service. What was the name of the general?

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#1232239 - Sun Jun 28 2020 07:14 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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The military officer appeared on camera on OAN when interviewed, with his name shown on the screen, even though I can't recall it. It wasn't anonymous. If I see the report again, I can add it. But it is credited, and not anonymous. Nor are Trump and the other 5 anonymous.

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#1232240 - Sun Jun 28 2020 07:33 PM Re: Russia paid Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Here's an article from The Hill (which is a pretty dead-center publication politically, not center-left or center-right).

TRUMP, AND TRUMP OFFICIALS, DENY TRUMP WAS BRIEFED ON REPORTED BOUNTIES ON U.S. SOLDIERS BY RUSSIA

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On Saturday, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany also denied a report from the Times on Friday that Trump and Vice President Pence were briefed on American intelligence findings that Russian military operatives offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants to kill coalition forces in Afghanistan, including U.S. troops, amid peace talks.

"While the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," McEnany said in a statement.

She said the U.S. ďreceives thousands of intelligence reports a day and they are subject to strict scrutiny.Ē McEnany added that she was not denying the intelligence exists but said the president was not briefed on it.



This is yet another down-a-rabbit-hole liberal media diversion and lying narrative.

And even if (hypothetically) Trump was advised, what would that prove? It's up to the military to take action against those attacks. If Trump (hypothetically) was advised of the bounties offered and went public about it, the media would just accuse him of giving publicity to Russian threats, and undermining our soldiers on the field there.

So no matter what is reported or confirmed, the near-100% negative anti-Trump liberal media will somehow spin it as Trump doing something wrong.
Which aids who? The Russians and the Taliban. The question is: Whose side are the media and the Democrats on. Apparently, they side with the Russians, Taliban, Chinese and Iranians, wanting to depose Trump, who is the only obstacle to their aggression.

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