Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Google trump Russia Gop plank WB and you won't like what comes up. Trump asked for few changes but specifically fought to weaken language against Russia.



Asked and answered in the other topic.

Trump -stooge of Russia topic:

 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine


Just pointing out from the outset, Obama has not provided ANY aid to Ukraine for the 2 years or so of the ongoing Ukranian conflict. Interesting that you call this "treason" by Trump (hypothetical treason, if elected) but don't hold the same standard to the ACTUAL "treason" by Obama over the last 2 years.


I don't see anything in the Wash Post that contradicts what I said above. The Trump group didn't include language that obligates the U.S. to provide military aid to Ukraine, but still leaves a nonspecific door open to provide Ukraine whatever is deemed "necessary" assistance, which could include military, but does not obligate.

And I'm very sure that if Trump did insist on specific language to provide military aid, the same Washington Post and other lying pro-Hillary liberal media would say "Trump is a warmonger, he's going to start a war!" That they would never do with even the most hawkish remarks by Hillary.

Trump could always provide assistance as soon as the election is over, without it being used to bludgeon him by a one-sided media during the election. (and this article was written BEFORE the Republican convention, so some of this issue may not be the same as what is in this WP hit-piece article).

Also, I'd like to point out that Ukraine is not a NATO member we are obligated to protect. And it's in the center of Eurasia, where Russia has a great logistical advantage.



I frankly think this is a dishonest attack on Trump, where you hold ambiguity of language by Trump's platform on Ukraine to a standard you don't hold actual YEARS of callous indifference by Hillary and Obama, who are actually in a position to help Ukraine. (vs. Trump, who may or may not be able to finally do so in January 2017, if he wins).

A dishonest partisan attack, no doubt launched to divert from discussion of Hillary Clinton's hacked e-mails that are ACTUAL treason.
And her treason through nations buying her loyalty through the Clinton Foundation.
And her leaving an ambassador and U.S. soldiers to die in Benghazi.

ACTUAL treason.

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