I'm to busy for partisan talking heads from either side WB. I'm fine with Biden being investigated too but the "evidence " so far doesn't match Trump's rhetoric.
As I linked above, Biden bragged
on video that he wanted Ukraine's prosecutor fired, and issued an ultimatume that Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the U.S. if the prosecutor was not fired (a Ukranian prosecutor who the State Department had just informed VP Biden that his son Hunter Biden was about to be investigated and interviewed by the prosecutor. And "well son of a bitch! He got fired..." in less than 6 hours, at which point Ukrain got its 1 billion in aid.
That, my friend, is intimidation and corruption.
Do you think he's [Trump is] being a virtuous truth teller here?
Yes. What slightest evidence is there that Trump is not?
Trump today released the entire transcript of his phone conversation with the Ukranian president (something that has never been asked for or done of a previous U.S. president's communication with a foreign leader). An outrageous demaand, but Trump released it because he has nothing to hide.
Also today, Trump had a
joint press conference with the Ukranian president, where Ukranian president Zelensky made clear it was a very routine diplomatic conversation, and there was no pressure, no intimidation, no blackmail, no undue influence in Trump's request for records on the former V P Biden's dealings with the Ukranian government.
This is yet another example of the vicious Democrats slandering Trump. For decades, Democrats have been the party of treason, weak against communism, undermining U.S. military defense against China, meeting with the Russians while Ronald Reagan was negotiating missile reductions in the late 1980's, siding against the U.S. during the Vietnam war, during the Persian Gulf war, during the Iraq war, Democrats FOR DECADES giving free publicity and legitimacy to the enemy's anti-America propaganda talking points. And even Hillary Clinton and the broader DNC engaged in enabling and spreading Russian propaganda during the 2016 election through Glenn Simpson/Fusion GPS/Christopher Steele and their propaganda directly pipelined from Russian intelligence agentss...
these are the people who have the audacity to front a narrative that Trump and his mean are "Russian assets" and acting treasonously against the U.S.
And now... the same thing again. Biden and his son Hunter Biden have clearly acted to enrich themselves in corrupt deals, and Biden has openly boasted >>>>ON VIDEO<<<< about his intimidation and blackmail. But now Democrats are trying to flip the table and manufacture a case that Trump engaged in intimidation and blackmail of the Ukranian leadershi to extort dirt on Biden. A few points:
1) The Ukranian government, far from needing to be blackmailed to give information on Joseph Biden and his son, have been offering this information to the State Department, DOJ and FBI
for years, but these U.S. agencies have shown a complete lack of interest (before William Barr took office). Far from being leveraged, they are only again presenting information that they have for roughly 3 years, and Hunter Biden's corruption goes back in Ukraine to at least 2014. This is absolutely not something Trump has created. The Biden corruption been there, and obviuous, for a very long time.
2) the phone transcript revealed today backs Trump up
3) the Ukranian president in a joint conference today backs Trump's account of their communication up.
4) the Burisma Holdings company records and money transfers through multiple countries (money laundering) backs Trump's request for records from the Ukranian government up. There is abundant evidence of Biden corruption. Beyond wild speculation by the likes of piece-of-excrement Rep Adam Schiff and Rep Nancy Pelosi, there is no evidence of Trump corruption or any pressure on Ukraine. It is a deliberate lie by Democrats to accuse Trump, to hide the
actual corruption that leads right back to the Democrats.
Predictably, despite full disclosure by Trump, no credit is given for his open-ness, or for the lack of evidence against him.
And meanwhile, it hides and mutes any media coverage of his remarkable leadership at the U.N. conference the last two days.
I get why Dems are starting the impeachment process. Trump's actions demand it.
Yes. Because they are positioned to lose badly in 2020, and this is their last desperate bid to damage Trump, despite there being no evidence against Trump. They would destroy and balkanize the nation, just to make another desperate attempt to gain some short-term political advantage.
I also can see why Pelosi didn't want to start it before now.[/quopte]
Yes. Because Pelosi knows her party can't successfully impeach Trump, and to do an ACTUAL impeachment would not only fail, but would cause all the moderate Democrats in red or purple disctricts to lose and have their seats go to Republicans.
Pelosi is trying to walk a fine line, to talk impeachment, without doing an actual impeachment. But we'll see that what she's done with her head-fake to appease the far-left Democrat base, in just discussing impeachment, looks like an actual impeachment to moderate Dems and the rest of mainstream America, and it will quickly cause a precipitous drop in the polls for Dems. The craziness is on full display.
[quote=M E M]Hopefully we'll get to see what the whistleblower had to say that the IG saw as credible and urgent. From reports I've seen this whistleblower does want to speak with Congress. In any case I think with a republican controlled senate it will be up to the voters to get Trump out. And that is the best way of removing a president.
We already know that the "whistleblower" (a misnomer)
1) filed their complaaint based on hearsay and doesn't have any firsthand knowledge, and when filed had only seen a partial transcript of Trump's Ukraaine phone call. So they didn't know anything, it was a scam, a front, a posturing PR stunt.
2) that the person who filed the whistleblower report is a partisan for one of the Democrat candidates, with a partisan motive to defame Trump.
3) That the whistleblower laws are to report suspcius activity in the intelligence community (FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, DNI). The president is outside of that intelligence loop, so beyond the fact that it is a false accusation, that whistleblower law was never set up to include the presidency.
President Trump has complied far more than any other president, has quickly shown transparency and full disclosure. And his full disclosure shows that he has nothing to hide.
Meanwhile, uninvestigated:
1) Obama's treason, never deposed, never investigated, regarding the FISA warrants, the IRS weaponization against Tea Party and religious groups, and large donors like Frank Vansersloot.
And, of course, Obama's rtreasonous open-mic moment:
OBAMA: "This is my last election. I can be much more flexible after this election."
MEDVEDEV (Eagerly!:] "Yes! I will traansmit this information to Vladimir [Putin]."
2) A) Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server that compromised U.S. national security every day of her 4 years as secretary of state to the Russians and Chinese, ripe for the hacking.
B) Hillary's deleting 33,000 e-mails,
after they were subpoenaed by House/Senate investigative committees and the FBI/DOJ.
C) Hillary's pay-to-play selling of State Department access to foreign governments in exchage for about $150 million in Clinton Foundation donations.
D) not to mention multiple other illegal dirty tricks during the 2016 campaign, including her millions in payments to Fusion GPS, where unlike Trump, the Clinton campaign
>>>ACTUALLY DID<<< directly pay for information from Russian agents, two of them highly placed Russian intelligence officials.
The chasm between what Dems accuse Trump of, vs. what they ignore overwhelming evidence of in the ranks of their own party, is just amazing. The bottom line is clear: Democrats don't care about actual corruption, they only care about what will eliminate Trump and other Republicans, and give Democrats power. No laws, not ethics, whatever will give Democrats power. Power to abuse and further destroy the nation.
