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You play around a lot with unproven half-baked speculaion.

The FACT is, both of Epstein's lawyers, Dershowitz and Schoen, said they pushed Epstein really hard for anything they could use as leverage in Epstein's defense.
And they both were adamant that Epstein had nothing, NOTHING to use against Trump.
I still say that Epstein had 300 under-age girls who were giving videotaped massages/sex to thousands of political and industrial leaders, and had the ability to blackmail them. And that those videotapes are out there somewhere, someone has them, and that is what Trump's DOJ team is quietly negotiating to find. They at least did exist, those tapes could topple world leaders, captains of industry and maybe cabinet members or heads of federal agencies. Or leaders in foreign governments or foreign intelligence services.
IF they still exist. And I find it hard to believe anyone would destroy something that valuable.

I frankly don't buy the narrative that they NEVER existed. They were either destroyed, or someone still has them.
And it's further complicated that these formerly under-age girls are now adult women with husbands and children, and don't want to be identified or testify.

I also was deeply disappointed that Kash Patel, Dan Boningo and Pam Bondi assured us there were stacks of evidence, and then a few weeks later unconvincingly said that evidence didn't exist. That could mean the evidence was destroyed or hidden by others, to prevent them from getting it. But I didn't like or believe the narrative that it never existed, and that from their comments they were shuttitng down the DOJ and FBI investigation, and not looking any more for missing evidence.

As I said before, I even consider the possibility that THEY THEMSELVES could be intimidated or blackmailed into silence. Because clearly, Epstein has obvious ties to the Deep State.


But completely unrelated to Trump and certainly not covering up for him, Alan Dershowitz and David Schoen said they pushed Epstein, and Epstein swore up and down here was nothing he had on Trump. And if he HAD something on Trump, he would have definitely whipped it out, to leverage his way out of a jail sentence.
But I'm convinced there's still evidence and videotapes that could destroy thousands of other rich and influential people. That seems to be how Epstein built his billion-dollar fortune. No other explanation is ever offered for how Jeffrey Epstein built his fortune.

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Maxwell getting interviewed by Trump’s old personal lawyer isn’t half baked. Her getting moved to a nicer prison afterwards happened. Why? And the interview itself was shameful. The victims basically get fucked again.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Maxwell getting interviewed by Trump’s old personal lawyer isn’t half baked. Her getting moved to a nicer prison afterwards happened. Why? And the interview itself was shameful. The victims basically get fucked again.

Ghislaine MAxwell is STILL IN PRISON, M E M. She may have slightly better jail conditions at a new prison she was moved to, but she is still in jail, for well into the future. Deputy attorney general Blanche interviewed her and was trying to get information out of her about Epstein's operation, the victimized under-age girls forced to work as prostitutes, the men out there who slept with them, and the blackmail videotapes that clearly exists since every room of Jeffrey Epstein's multiple homes were wired with cameras for precisely that purpose.

Recorded audio of Blanche's interview of Maxwell has been publicly released, so it's not like there was some sweetheart deal that Blanche did with her that is somehow hidden from the public.
So where is the "disgrace" except in Democrat talking points propaganda?

As compared to the Democrat-Bolshevik machine in FBI and DOJ and IRS that prevented Joe Biden and Hunter Biden from being prosecuted, by deliberately letting the statute of limitations run out on their crimes.
And then tried to slip a super sweetheart deal by a judge that would exonerate Hunter Biden from any future charges, even for crimes he had not even been accused of yet. And the judge said no frigging way to that deal, presented to the judge in court by the FBI.
And the FBI, DOJ and IRS whistleblower agents who reported orders within their agencies to not prosecute and protect Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama from investigation and prosecution, federal agents who were THEMSELVES destroyed by the Democrat machine, suspended and demoted without pay, and otherwise harassed by the Democrat-Bolsheviks above them in their own agencies.

Your maniac Democrat party JUST TODAY is siding against ICE agents, and siding for the leftist lunatic activists Adrian Guerrero and about 20 others, who openly threatened and attempted to stab ICE agents and their families and children to death.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/keffiyeh...ent-harm-family-san-francisco-mob-attack
https://nypost.com/2025/04/10/us-ne...em-weeps-as-hes-ordered-to-stay-in-jail/

Democrats consistently side against ICE and law enforcement, and with the people who would kill them, and prey on all Americans.


And the crazies in your party are still wailing about and defending Kilmar Obrega Garcia from deportation, a well known MS 13 gang member, human trafficker, wife beater, and also allegedly killed someone's mother just because the guy somehow offended Obrega Garcia. He was ordered by multiple judges in multiple cases to be deported, and your maniac party defends him on a technicality, to try and prevent this ADMITTED GANG MEMBER from being deported.
( He admitted that precisely because he is MS 13, he was in danger of being killed by a rival gang if deported to El Salvador. But that threat existed about 10 years ago when a judge first ordered him deported. But now that rival gang that would have killed him in El Salvador no longer exists.
So it's a technicality to say Obrega-Garcia is in danger if deported o El Salvador, that situation no longer exists.
And EVEN IF Obrego-Garcia could not be TECHNICALLY deported to El Salvador, he can legally be deported to any other country on the planet instead, as multiple judges have already ordered. So I hope he enjoys his new life in Uganda. If Obrega Garcia were allowed to stay in the U S, as Senator Van Hollen and other Democrat lunatics advocate, he would be a threat to any person in the U.S. he would meet, ESPECIALLY any women.)
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/de...nt-evidence-mounts-against-abrego-garcia

https://nypost.com/2025/08/23/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcia-to-be-deported-after-refusing-plea-offer/

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She got a cozier prison so far. And Trump’s guy questions were not great. At one point Maxwell mentions that there are people in the Trump administration connected to Epstein. There’s no follow up question of who? All this did was allow a known liar of heinous crimes tell more lies with zero pushback. This was done basically as a distraction from the files that have Trump’s name in them.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
She got a cozier prison so far. And Trump’s guy questions were not great. At one point Maxwell mentions that there are people in the Trump administration connected to Epstein. There’s no follow up question of who? All this did was allow a known liar of heinous crimes tell more lies with zero pushback. This was done basically as a distraction from the files that have Trump’s name in them.


That's a lie, and you cannot begin to back that up with ANY proof.

Ghislaine Maxwell is a proven liar as well, and a manipulative person well versed in psy-ops. She will say anything to save herself. That doesn't mean anything she says is true or believable.
Jeffrey Epstein, as I've sourced repeatedly, was pushed by his two respective lawyers, Alan Dershowitz and David Schoen, for ANYTHING he could use as leverage against Trump to get a lighter sentence, and even at his most desperate, he admitted he had nothing, NOTHING against Trump. Period, the end.

And Ghislaine Maxwell is still IN PRISON. She is going nowhere.
Deputy Attorney General Blanche simply met with her and listened to what Maxwell had to say. And she's STILL in jail after that.
And the entire interview of Maxwell was publicly disclosed, so there was nothing hidden or sinister in Blanche's interview of her, as you desperately try to smear Trump. Swing and miss, M E M.

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It’s a fact that she got transferred to a lower security prison not normally available for offenders like Maxwell. It’s a fact that she did reference people in the Trump administration connected to Epstein and Trump’s old personal lawyer didn’t follow up on that. Maxwell is a proven liar but why would there be no follow up on that? Since then a bunch of Epstein victims have a press conference while Trump flies planes overhead to drown them out. Trump has consistently downplayed his friendship with Epstein & Maxwell and is trying to keep the files with names coming out.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
It’s a fact that she got transferred to a lower security prison not normally available for offenders like Maxwell. It’s a fact that she did reference people in the Trump administration connected to Epstein and Trump’s old personal lawyer didn’t follow up on that. Maxwell is a proven liar but why would there be no follow up on that? Since then a bunch of Epstein victims have a press conference while Trump flies planes overhead to drown them out. Trump has consistently downplayed his friendship with Epstein & Maxwell and is trying to keep the files with names coming out.

It's a fact that Ghislaine Maxwell remains in prison, and is not enjoying any luxuries.
SPECIFICALLY WHO "in Trump's administration" did she "reference" ?
I assume you're referring to Blanch as "Trump's personal lawyer". Again, a lot of bullshit innuendo there on your part, factlessly trying to smear Trump or persons in his administration, but I don't see that you've presented any facts whatsoever to back that up.



And by the way, as I've said often, the DOJ and FBI are a rat's nest of Democrat-Bolsheviks, who donated 97% for Hillary Clinton and other Democrats, overwhelmingly, almost 100% Democrat, so DOJ/FBI is an overwhelmingly Democrat agency that resists direct orders from Trump and Pam Bondi and Kash Patel, and undermines them at every turn.
But FOR FOUR YEARS under Joe Biden's presidency, the FBI and DOJ could have investigated and released all records regarding Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, and they did NOT.
So how is it Trump's fault that records are not released, when the Democrats in power for four years never did?


Pam Bondi visited one DOJ office, and was outraged when she walked in and they had framed photos of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Merrick Garland on the wall in the lobby. Which she perssonally took down immediately, and had replaced with framed photos of their 3 replacements, Trump, Vance and Bondi.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...s-matters-into-her-own-hands/ar-AA1yVqx3

That makes crystal clear where FBI and DOJ officials' loyalty remains, even in a Trump administration. And on a number of cases, FBI and DOJ are obstructing and burying information to prevent the Trump administration from acting on it. And if a Democrat administraion remained in power, would hide and bury these files forever.
I could see the 97% Democrat DOJ/FBI doing the same with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell files during Trump's 2nd term, just to spite and obstruct the Trump administration from keeping its promise to release those files.

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Sounds like she is getting preferential treatment WB. Just the transfer alone shows special treatment but there’s reporting that even in the lower security prison she’s getting preferential treatment WB.

What a roller coaster for Trump on this btw, lol. He fought against releasing the files until it became clear he wasn’t going to be able to stop it.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Sounds like she is getting preferential treatment WB. Just the transfer alone shows special treatment but there’s reporting that even in the lower security prison she’s getting preferential treatment WB.

What a roller coaster for Trump on this btw, lol. He fought against releasing the files until it became clear he wasn’t going to be able to stop it.


HOW?!? HOW is Ghislaine Maxwell getting better/preferential treatment at her new prison?
She's still in prison.

AGAIN: The Democrats and Biden had FOUR YEARS to release these files, and they didn't. So why is all this Trump's fault?



Trump has said that the only restriction on releasing files and making redactions is protecting the girls who were forced into sex by Maxwell and Epstein.

And that, I see as breaking into two camps of victimized girls:
1) The girls who are now in their 30's and married with children who DON'T want to testify and have their names and personal lives put back in the global media.
and
2) The girls who are still pushing to have ALL the Epstein files released, who have no reservations about testifying, and want vengeance against not just Epstein and Maxwell, but against all the men who victimized them by taking advantage of Epstein's using them as sex slaves. Who even ran an ad during the Super-bowl yesterday to push for release of those files and further prosecution.


You seem only interested in exploiting this as a way to attack and slander Trump. I'm interested in what's true and what's right, in pursuing actual justice in these cases. It's complicated by the fact that some of these roughly 300 victimized girls/women want these cases fully pursued, while a good percentage will not cooperate or testify. And whatever other political pressures have been, or still are, being applied, during multiple presidencies and DOJ / FBI investigations spanning more than 20 years, under both political parties.

But you don't seem to care about that. For you it's all about... HATE TRUMP panic


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lol, you help protect the pedos. You voted for Trump who has a long history of grab em by the pussy. Your words are empty

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Biden isn’t in the files btw nor tried stopping any release like your orange pos has.


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There have been House investigations of Ghislaine Maxwell and all the other records and persons surrounding Jeffrey Epstein for several weeks.

Yesterday, Hillary Clinton gave testimony before the House committee, behind closed doors. And the video and transcript of that will be released in a few days.

Today, Bill Clinton is before the House giving closed-door testimony. That too will have video and transcripts released a few days after.


This much is known from testimony of the girls exploited, from e-mails exchanged, and from other records:

  • Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president.
    Former Rep Jason Chaeffetz said that in all the time he served in the House, across several presidencies, he only visited twice, and that someone has to be very well known and connected to visit the White House that many times.
  • Further, Jeffrey Epstein was a large and regular fundraiser and donor to the Clintons, and to many others in the Democrat party. While he may have made occasional donations to Republicans, he was unquestionably and overwhelmingly a Democrat donor and fundraising bundler.
  • Ghislaine Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding. And there are photos of Maxwell attending. Asked about Maxwell atending, Hillary Clinton said in her testimony the Clintons did no invite Maxwell, that Maxwell came as a guest of someone else who was invited. But she could not name who brought Maxwell to the wedding.
  • Jeffrey Epstein was among the first and largest donors, at the time when the Clinton foundation was begun. But he wasn't well known by the Clintons?
  • Across testimony and e-mails of several of Epstein's girls, multiple girls remember seeing Bill Clinton on Pedophile Island.
    There are photos of Bill Clinton with these girls, scantily clad, laughing as they sat in his lap.
  • A very odd painting of Bill Clinton wearing a blue dress reminiscent of Monica Lewinsky's famous semen-stained dress, was prominently displayed in the halls of Epstein's island mansion.
  • And as mentioned before, Bill Clinton was in the flight logs as having traveled about 25 times on Jeffrey Epstein's private plane. And on 5 occasions, Clinton left behind his Secret Service detail, so as to prevent them from being witnesses to what occurred after Clinton left with Epstein and his girls.



But to hear Democrat leaders, all the evidence of sinister dealings with Epstein are connected to Donald Trump, and they clamor endlessly for Trump to be dragged in to testify.
For WHAT?

  • Donald Trump is on record having traveled on Epstein's private plane ONCE, from New York to West Palm Beach, and he was in the company of Melania Trump the entire time.
    So when exactly, knowing this, would Trump have been involved inexploiation or a liason with any of Epstein's girls?
  • As has long been known, Donald Trump had Epstein thrown out of Mar A Lago and banned from ever coming back, because of Epstein's bad behavior with one of the girls employed a Mar A Lago, that Epsein apparently tried to recruit.
  • It appearss to be new information revealed by the House committee, that Trump is the one who first reported Jeffrey Epstein to the West Palm Beach police, and encouraged the police repeatedly to investigae Epstein.
    Which raises he question: If Trump had ANYTHING to hide, why would he do that?


Jus a few obvious data-points at this stage of the investigation.

And further: During the Obama administration, and also during the FOUR YEARS of the Biden adminisration, during which Democrats controlled the DOJ and FBI, and could have further investigated and/or released all the known documents about Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, they DIDN'T. And no Democrat Senator or House member had anything to say, voicing any need to further investigate, make arrests, or release ANY documents or information about Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, or their many wealthy politically connected statutory-rapist clients.

While a Democrat was in the White House, Democrats wanted to keep a lid on this information as long as possible, because they are far more connected to Epstein, and politically liable when those records are released.
And Democrats are now clamoring and putting on a show of outrage, because they think Republicans won't actually release this information, or that at this point the evidence and witnesses are not there to prosecute, so Democrats can posture alleging a cover-up of information that might actually no longer exist. That Democrats had the power to reveal all the years they were in power, but didn't.

I hope Democrats get surprised, tha the evidence DOES still exist, and their clamor to have it revealed, when it IS revealed, blows up in their faces.
Because in the example of the Clintons, for openers, those Democrat ties to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell run deep.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Biden isn’t in the files btw nor tried stopping any release like your orange pos has.

I never said or implied Joe Biden was involved with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
But as said, Biden DID HAVE the ability to release FBI and DOJ files during his 4 years in office on Epstein, and DIDN'T. Because it is a liability for the Democrat party, who are far more tied to Epstein than Trump is, or than any other Republican is.


And a reminder, Joe Biden was well known for grabbing the asses of Secret Service agents' wives and girlfriends, to the point that some agents didn't even want to bring them to White House dinners.


And video certainly exists of Joe Biden regularly groping little girls at the White House, even if not girls in service to Epstein.

And Biden was also well known for swimming naked and walking around naked, to deliberately make female Secret Service agents guarding him uncomfortable.

So Joe Biden is a loathesome and creepy guy, probably the most unsavory to occupy the White House since LBJ.
But yeah, Joe Biden wasn't a known patron of Jeffrey Epstein or the Lolita Express.

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Epstein Files Are Missing Records About Woman Who Made Claim Against Trump
“Documents released by the Justice Department briefly mention a woman’s unverified accusation that Donald J. Trump assaulted her in the 1980s, when she was a minor. But several memos related to her account are not in the files.”


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Epstein Files Are Missing Records About Woman Who Made Claim Against Trump
“Documents released by the Justice Department briefly mention a woman’s unverified accusation that Donald J. Trump assaulted her in the 1980s, when she was a minor. But several memos related to her account are not in the files.”


This would be the same New York Times that gave a glowing obituary of Ayatollah Khomeini killed by a bombing raid in Iran, N Y Times lamening Konenei's death the same month he ordered the slaughter of at least 30,000 peaceful Iranian protesters?

Yeah, I give that Democrat-leadership-pushed report about a girl accusing Trump absolutely no credibility.

This has already been exposed as a girl who lied about Trump, and has absolutely no credibility. Except to Democrat-Bolsheviks, who KNOW this story is a lie, but keep repeating it anyway in a desperate attempt to falsely slander Trump, and shift news coverage away from Trump's massive presidential accomplishments..


That's just the Democrat-Bolshevik way: terror, arson, slander, murder. Whatever serves the Revolution :

  • Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi, or anti-semitic... The association will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the public mind.
    Moscow Central Committee, 1943







White House Slams 'Fake Narrative' as Dems Twist Epstein Emails to 'Smear' Trump

https://www.newsmax.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-white-house-democrats/2025/11/12/id/1234268/

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And...


Ro Khanna's State of the Union "Trump victim" guest was actually a victimizer: Who by her own admission recruited over 20 underage girls for Epstein, and boasted being 'Like Heidi Fleiss'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ro...recruited-over-20-underage-girls-epstein


So that totally blew up in Rep. Ro Khanna's --and the broader Democrat party's-- faces.

Their "Trump victim" turned out to be a liar and a predator herself.

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She was a 16 year old girl.


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Dems getting a 16 year old girl to lie for them. The usual shameful behavior.


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Odd how that only works on Trump. All those women coming forward lying knowing that they will get death threats and harassed by his enablers.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Odd how that only works on Trump. All those women coming forward lying knowing that they will get death threats and harassed by his enablers.

1) Out of all Trump's "accusers", it is a strain to find one that can credibly be called a rape or sexual assault.
Miss America contestants saying "He looked at me creepy". Well that is a perception, and not a sexual assault.

Ivanna Trump alleged Trump raped her, and then later not only admitted she made it up, but reconciled and again became friends with Trump, and even wrote the introduction to one of Trump's books. A woman doesn't do that for a guy who actually raped her.
But the Democratt-Bolshevik liars, despite that Ivanna Trump completely retracted the allegation, still say "Trump raped his wife Ivanna."
No, he clearly didn't.

Virtually every one of the 18 or so women who alleged Trump sexually groped or otherwise was "creepy" toward them, have expressed a political motive for their accusations, that "Trump has o be stopped" from becoming president. And for 50 yearss never made an allegaion, until the 3 weeks or so right before the 2016 election, an orchestrated Democrat-machine October Surprise.

Or oherwise, woimen who had business dealings with Trump, where they LOVED LOVED LOVED Trump for years, and then suddenly when they didn't get what they wanted, they got back at Trump by making sexual allegations, as pure payback, or just to exploit their associaion with Trump, for financial or political gain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

2) I don't know of any Trump accusers that have been attacked ot recieved death threats. But I sure can of Bill Clinton accusers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegations

But the hreas against these women are very clearly detailed by hese women.
Not hat even ultra-Lef Wikipedia clearly adds he word sexual ASSAULT, where no such credible allegations exist against Trump, except as a political smear weapon. he violence and hreas against Clinton accusers is far more clear.

As was the threat against Joe Biden accuser Tara Reade, who fled to Russia to escape FBI and DOJ lawfare and imprisonment, or worse, during Joe Biden's presidency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_misconduct_allegation

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The 13 year old he probably raped received threats for starters. You just have to do a search of Trump accuser death threats and you will see. But you already knew that. He’s a pos and his loyalists are just as bad


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
The 13 year old he probably raped received threats for starters. You just have to do a search of Trump accuser death threats and you will see. But you already knew that. He’s a pos and his loyalists are just as bad


The only "POS" is you, M E M. And the other slanderers on the Democrat-Bolshevik Left.

What you say about "death threats" against this girl is an obvious lie. Because she doesn't even have a name, she has not been photographed or spoken on camera, so NO ON KNOWS WHO SHE IS to make "death threats" against her. Even the media doesn't know who she is yet.

And this is just the latest, after TEN STRAIGHT YEARS of disproven false allegations against Trump, one after another proven wrong.
I won't believe this one until the 13 year old girl (30 years later, now at least 43) comes forward, gives her name, a signed affidavit, and some supporting witnesses and evidence. Otherwise it's just another made-up "anonymous source" allegation.
And after 10 straight years of false accusations against Trump, it will take a lot more than that to prove that this one now, after a steady stream of false ones for 10 years, suddenly has any credibility.

As for "death threats" against women accusing Trump, I haven' seen that. Even conservative-hating, Trump hating Democrat-Left-shill propaganda site Wikipedia does not list any threats against these women.
I posted a link to the Wikipedia Trump sexual allegations in my above post.

But there sure are pleny of threats against female accusers of Bill Clinton and Joe Biden.
I posted links to those in my above post as well.



Oh, and there was another similar under-age 13-year-old Epstein girl accuser in 2016 against Trump, that was completely discredited back then within a day or two of when it was made.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...onald-trump-raped-13-year-old-girl-1994/

It's like Bullwinkle and Rocky:
"AGAIN?!? But that trick never works..."

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