Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy, 11-15-2012
 Originally Posted By: iggy
That's great. Link to a group under investigation for forged signatures for election monitoring in Ohio.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_the_Vote

They seem remarkably clean in this unsugarcoated wikipedia listing.

I see them as a conservative group trying to counter-balance left-wing advocacy groups by simply monitoring the elections. And they are for that, of course, demonized by leftist smear sites and groups as --shocking!-- racist because they look in minority precincts for Democrat voter fraud. Looking amid the 93% of blacks who for Obama, the 71% of hispanics for Obama, the 73% of asians for Obama nationally, and 59 precincts in Philadelphia voting 100% for Obama and zero for Romney? Gee why would anyone think to investigate fraud there? HOW RACIST!

Granted, it wouldn't kill them them to report on Republican as well as Democrat voter fraud. If they want to focus on minority (i.e., Democrat) voter fraud, they could still report Republican transgressions from other external sources.
But obviously they feel the 80% liberal-dominant media gives plenty of exposure to those Republican fraud cases.

I saw the last two sentences there, about ALLEGATIONS. Not proof. And when Eric Holder's Justice Department gets around to prosecuting the Black Panther voter intimidation case from 2008, I'll believe again in equal justice under the law, and that this is not just another smear job to discredit a Republican advocacy group.
Even if they were found guilty in this one location, if it were a liberal election monitoring group, the media would be all "Ohh, this just a few people inside the organization, you can't judge a whole organization by a few bad employees."

And if your doubt my view, just look at the ACORN topic from three years ago, where James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles exposed an acorn office, than two, then three, then four then five. As I recall, M E M was still saying "you can't just an organization by a few bad people" even after 5 offices had been exposed!

So, innocent until proven guilty. In the case of ACORN and SEIU, and so on, they're never regarded as guilty, even after they shut down nationally and changed their name.



And True The Vote, that Iggy slandered as a partisan group, has 1) been vindicated as a non-partisan group that simply monitored voter fraud on all sides, and 2) was a 501-(c)(4) group that was unfairly targeted and diminished in their effectiveness in the 2012 election, and possibly targeted by IRS more than any other 501(c)(4) group.
Not only by the IRS, but also OSHA, FBI, ATF, and other federal police and regulatory groups, that were apparently given the criteria to attack True The Vote and its owners with their confidential IRS tax information.

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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.