Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
It's funny how Martin's height keeps shifting but according to the medical examiner's report Martin was 5'11 and weighed a 158 lbs.

Snopes

They cover the pic thing too.

Dave, Martin was just barely 17 when he ran away from an armed Zimmerman that he told his friend that he was afraid [of]. He wasn't doing anything wrong and we only have Zimmerman's word about how the fight started. Zimmerman was found not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt but that hardly makes his version of how the fight started true.


God, M E M.
You keep repeating the same selective omissions.
Martin called (the then unknown) Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker", which sounds more an expression of annoyance and contempt than fear.
Martin "wasn't doing anything wrong", but neither was Zimmerman. He observed Martin behaving suspiciously, called the police to report and describe the behavior, and observed Martin from a distance. And in this, Zimmerman did nothing wrong.

It was Martin who assaulted Zimmerman, who broke his nose, gave him two black eyes, and lacerations to the back of the head, as observed in a recorded 911 call made by witness John Goode. In the autopsy, powder burns to Martin's body were (according to the forensics expert who WROTE THE TEXTBOOK on powder burns evidence) evidence consistent with Zimmerman's account.

The detective who investigated said on observing the evidence, witnesses and looking for racial motive on Zimmerman's part, found absolutely no evidence of racist motive on Zimmerman's part. The guy had black family members.
He tutored black kids, even after the tutoring program had ended! He took a black girl to prom!
With all this evidence stacked up, it is pure slander to insinuate that Zimmerman targeted Martin because he was black, or that there is not evidence to back up Zimmerman's story.
There absolutely was evidence.



And by the way, while Snopes is partly correct that one Facebook photo was someone other than Martin, as I posted earlier in the topic, Daily Caller posted a whole bunch of OTHER photos where Trayvon Martin --the REAL Trayvon Martin-- posed all ghetto gangster, and posted a number of belligerent gangster-posing comments, under the name "No_Limit_Nigga".

I'm not at all convinced that the "innocent boy" photo of Trayvon was taken "only 7 months" before he was killed, as the Martin family lawyer alleged. Martin is clearly far more developed and muscular.
The family took down Trayvon's Facebook and Twitter pages because they KNEW these posts and photos made clear he was not an innocent little boy.
They hid the truth!

I've also seen little reporting of the fact that Trayvon Martin was a poor student with disciplinary problems, and had THREE 10-day suspensions in a year, for things that would be arrestable offenses outside school: marijuana possession with a bong pipe, spraying graffiti on a locker, and possessing a bag of women's jewelry with a screwdriver described as "a burglary tool".

In addition --OMITTED FROM COURT EVIDENCE BY THE JUDGE-- Trayvon Martin's phone text messages and photos, talking about him planning to buy a gun, a photo of an anonymous hand (most likely Trayvon's)brandishing a gun. And Trayvon's exchanged texts with his half-brother, asking Trayvon to teach him how to fight, which Trayvon obviously had superior skill at from the texts. And texts where he describes breaking an opponent's nose and pounding him over and over in the face as the recommended way to take them down.
PRECISELY the method he used to take down Zimmerman.

It can be under-reported but not hidden, but the evidence that you choose to selectively ignore is no less clear.



And regarding the height-difference, even assuming Trayvon was only 5' 11", he still was 2 inches taller, more muscular --a football player-- and far more skilled at fighting, according to Zimmerman's own personal trainer, who said despite much training, Zimmerman's skill on a scale from 1 to 10, still remained an inept "1".

As I posted earlier, I've seen plenty of mainstream/liberal sources report Trayvon Martin's height as 6' 3"...

 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy, 3-27-2012
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Wouldn't the big guy who followed the smaller kid around with the gun be the one who started the fight?


Uh...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-dogged-disciplinary-problems-school/story?id=16011674

Trayvon Martin: 6 foot 3
George Zimmerman: 5 foot 9

Which would you more wisely describe as the "big guy" and the "smaller kid"?

According to both Zimmerman and 911-phone-in police caller "John" [Goode], Martin initiated the attack, and the bloody nose, head-lacerations and grass stains on Zimmerman's clothes and face back that up.

... and he certainly looks about that in his "last photo with family".
I've seen it stated elsewhere that Martin was not measured accurately at the time of his autopsy, and that he actually is 6' 3". Snopes dodges all these issues.


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