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What does it say when Trump having an affair with a porn actress doesn't rate a thread (till now). It's not shocking because he's always been trash but it's been fun watching all that hush money not work for him.

I think it says there are more important things to discuss. Such as situations with North Korea, Iran, China and Russia, and domestic issues such as tax reform, securing our borders, DACA immigrant status, and stopping the endless waves of illegal immigrants, rebuilding our military.

Trump has been under constant attack since election night, much of it speculative and manufactured by the Left and their conspiracy partners in the rat-fuck liberal media.
If you watch Fox News, the Stormy Daniels story is mentioned.
If you watch CNN, MSNBC, or the other liberal media, it's an obsession. Even as they IGNORE Trump's accomplishments in almost instantly improving annual growth, and the fruit of Trump's stronger foreign and economic policy, including Kim Jong Un surprisingly offering peace talks. For about half a day, liberal anchors acknowledged what an achievement that was, before they jumped back into anti-Trump attack mode. My impression is, if any liberal-media anchor even TRIED to be objective and not anti-Trump fanatical, they would be fired from their respective networks. If they weren't partisan liberal nutjobs already, and had any interest in objectively covering Trump in the first place.

But yeah, Stormy Daniels. It's a minor story about Trump that's out there. That the liberal media who have failed in every previous attempt, would like this to be a major scandal that could bring down Trump.
Trump, through his lawyers, apparently gave Stormy Daniels $120,000 or so, where she was very well paid for a non-disclosure agreement. Now, for whatever reason, she would like to break the agreement to extort more money. Looking at her previous overtures for political office, also possibly for Democrat-partisan reasons she is trying to hurt Trump. Just as Roy Moore's accusers were women active in the DNC and several past campaigns.

Did Trump have sex with Stormy Daniels? Not proven, still speculative, but yeah, probably. But it allegedly happened in 2006, now 12 years ago. Long before Trump ever campaigned or became president. (He married Melania in 2005. So there is an infidelity issue.) But it's not like he, say, had sex with a 22 year old White House intern in the Oval Office, and then lied in testimony under oath about it, and obstructed a 40 million dollar Independent Counsel investigation.
When Bill Clinton did all that other stuff, you didn't think it was such a big deal. And that's far more than what Trump did, in the worst case scenario.

I think it's a much bigger issue that there has been abuse of power by Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, James Comey, Andrew McCabe (and his wife), Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Flynn case judge and FISA warrant judge Rudolf Contreras, Bruce Ohr (and wife employed by FusionGPS, Robert Meuller and his "independent investigation" made up of DNC campaign donors, former DNI director James Clapper, and former CIA director John Brennan, along with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and others that I don't presently recall. All abused their power at the highest levels of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other federal agencies to weaponize law enforcement and do illegal surveillance, to attempt to rig the 2016 presidential election, and then to create a false case in a political coup to depose an elected president, Donald Trump. That political leadership, career bureaucrats, and the liberal media are all collaborating together to make a false case against Trump for collaborating with Russia during the 2016 campaign. When in truth, ALL of the evidence leads to Hillary Clinton and the DNC, >>>NOT<<< to Trump. (The Clinton Foundation donations, FusionGPS, Christopher Steele's collaboration with Russians in compiling the Russia Dossier, UraniumOne and the payoffs to the Clinton in exchange for pimping the Uraniam sale to the Russians through a Canadian front company, Hillary's illegal unsecured private server, the 33,000 missing e-mails, deleting e-mails and smashing the hard-drives and memory chips in Hillary's computers and phones, on and on).

I would argue that the Stormy Daniels story is just the latest feeble attempt to keep alive the endless barrage of allegations unleashed on Trump. I got a chuckle watching Anderson Cooper on CNN just about ejaculate on himself with excitement "reporting" this story. It was a liberal wankfest.

I would point out Stormy has said she's been threatened. Plus you not only have Trump lying about it but all the shady legal maneuvers. Trump's lawyer paying his porn star hush money without allegedly being compensated for it. Nobody is shocked that Trump had an affair but the shadowy way he's used his wealth and the legal system to cover it up and silence people might be.

Wait. 20 years after Clinton, MEM suddenly cares about adultery by a president and that president lying about it?

Lol, cue g the partisan judge. Especially hilarious after WB's post.

I didn't care when Clinton was fooling around with Monica and who knows how many other women.

I don't care about Trump fooling around with that nasty porn actress. I never thought she was attractive. He really should have gone for Asa or Katie Morgan.

A man's adultery is between him and his wife even if he is the President.

Do you think his efforts to silence Stormy fall into something else though? The hush money and not even having to sign the legal agreement that he's trying to use doesn't seem like it should be legal.

It's entirely possible, though not conclusive, that Trump did something illegal, ala John Edwards to buy her off.

If that's the case, and it comes out, he's got real problems.

But let's face it: Even if Trump did nothing illegal, the left is going to act like adultery is suddenly a disqualifier again....at least until the Democrat cheats on his or her spouse.

I don't see Dems being any worse than your party g. Actually Trump would have been unelectable as a dem after his "legal" rape of his first wife without not even getting into the growing crowd of women coming forward with various allegations. And I suspect your party will be raising the bar at some point. (Maybe after 2018?).

"Actually Trump would have been unelectable as a dem..."

The blue state voters who put him over the top to beat Crooked Hillary might disagree.

She beat him in the popular vote so no I don't think so. And at some point your party will be running from being the party of Trump

So what you're saying is the GOP will learn from its mistakes while the DNC will continue to be the party of Crooked Hillary. Okay.

In previous topics, we've already established that Trump's "19 accusers" is just so much horseshit, and very padded and sensationalized with comments by women, most of whom are clearly politically active Democrat women, or otherwise have an axe to grind because Trump owes them money in a business deal or something. And that it distills down to maybe 4 or 5 allegations that remain unproven.

Most of those "19" are "he looked at me creepy" or "he looked at us like we were meat", as Miss America contestants, not any actual sexual allegation. Well hello, you're presenting yourself as meat, in a beauty contest!
Also particularly vile is adding Ivanka Trump as a listed accuser, who said things vindictively in a bitter divorce, and has fully retracted those remarks, and even written the introduction to one of Trump's books since. That she wasn't raped, that she "Felt raped, emotionally" by husband Donald's betrayal and rejection. But that is portrayed deceitfully out of context.
Because that is what the Left always does to Republican opponents. Or really, to anyone who gets in their way. Bernie Sanders in 2016 being as good an example as any, as revealed in the comments of DNC leadership in their anti-Semitic schemes to bring him down to clear the path for Hillary's nomination, as exposed in the e-mails revealed by WikiLeaks.

Ivana did the deposition where she details the "legal" rape. Even with the insert Trump had his lawyers put in there doesn't actually deny what she alleged (pulling out her hair and than forcing himself on her, she woke up with her pulled out hair next to her). Yes like other woman he paid her lots of money for her silence and they're just the best of friends now. I don't think it's vile bringing it up at all but than again I think it's vile for the pile of shit having an affair or two after his wife just had his kid.

I think saner minds will prevail in your party eventually. For now though you are the party of Trump

60 Minutes interview tonight.

AGAIN: Allegations against Donald Trump, unproven or at best retracted and questionable.

VS....

PROVEN rape and sexual assault by Democrats that you and other Democrats give a total free pass too. And Hillary Clinton led the charge to destroy these women, to advance her own political career, calling them whores and trailer trash and so forth.

When you can fully own and acknowledge the Clintons' abuse of women, and the Kennedys', and sexual involvement with minors by Gerry Studds, and running a brothel out of his home by Barney Frank, all of whom DEMOCRATS GAVE A TOTAL FREE PASS TO AND ELECTED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND NEVER CONDEMNED, I might take what you have to say about Trump the slightest bit seriously.

I think no matter how saintly Republicans could possibly be, you will demagogue them as the greatest evil, despite the clearly far worse corruption and evil the Democrats are unleashing on the country.

Under Obama, destroying our military.
Under Obama, collapsing U.S. military and global influence.
Under Obama, Benghazi, allowing the attack before and during (in real time), and lyingly covering it up after.
Under Obama, doubling our debt from 10 trillion to 20 trillion. That alone could collapse the nation.
Under Obama and Hillary (and Schumer, and Pelosi) splintering the nation along race and class lines.
Under Obama and Hillary, weaponizing the IRS against Tea Party groups, religious conservatives, and large Republican donors.

And ultimately, under Obama and Hillary, and Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, FISA judge Rudolf Contreras, weaponizing the FISA court, FBI, DOJ, CIA and other intelligence agencies in an effort to slander and depose an elected president, that is nothing short of a political coup, illegally using the law enforcement branches of government to do so.

The hostility toward Trump is because he is an obstruction to the business-as-usual corruption and looting of a sinking ship by both Democrats and the establishment Republicans. Taking Trump down by any illegals means and abuse of power at their disposal.

The hostility towards Trump is because he's an unfit piece of shit. I pity the democrat that is going to have to clean up the mess after his reign is done.

That might mean more if you hadn't called every GOP presidential nominee since 2004 more or less the same thing.

You probably called previous nominees that as well but I didn't join the board until 2003.

I praised McCain and even considered voting for him. And it's not just demaocrats that think he's unfit. I suspect that number will grow in your party once it's safe

Since you spoke up g perhaps this is a good point for you to talk about how you feel Trump is fit for the office. For the record

As I said in the Charlottesville topic:



And again, you hold Trump to a standard regarding extramarital affairs, and even SEXUAL ASSAULT and RAPE, that you don't hold to Bill Clinton, and enabler wife Hillary Clinton to. Hillary, who led the charge to slander these women, kicking them down to advance her own career. And womanizers/ sexual abusers Ted Kennedy, JFK, RFK, Gerry Studds and Barney Frank.
Among many others.


In light of your silence on these DEMOCRATS who did far worse, your outrage rings hollow and hypocritical, M E M.
And ignores that Trump has accomplished more than any other recent president. Certainly more than America-hating Alinsky-trained Cultural Marxist demagogue Barack Obama.

We had 20 some years of talking about Clinton. Funny how when Trump commits adultery you just double down on Clinton. Actually it's not funny nor sadly that shocking. Trump is the one who committed adultery not me WB. Do you think your judgement doesn't look partisan?

Because nothing is PROVEN about Trump.

Because EVERYTHING was proven true about Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton was forced by his guilt to pay $850,00 in damages to Paula Jones. And if I recall, another $80,000 fine to the American Bar Association, along with revocation of his law license.

In contrast, Trump's alleged extramarital trysts were CONSENSUAL. Whereas Bill Clinton forced himself on Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie and Juanita Broaddrick. And Broaddrick was a loyal Democrat and fundraiser for the Democrats, why would she ever make up such an incident?

Bill Clinton committed perjury.
Bill Clinton was disbarred for 5 years as a lawyer, for obstruction and contempt of the law that as both a lawyer and an elected official he was sworn to uphold. Bill Clinton obstructed a $40 million special investigation. The entire U.S. Supreme Court, in contempt for Clinton's perjury and obstruction of the law, would not attend his State of the Union for the remainder of his term. Not just the Conservative judges, ALL of them!

What crime is Trump even accused of having committed? NONE.
He (at worst) had a one-night fling with a pornstar 12 years ago, a year into his marriage, and 11 years before he became president. So what.

I could also repeat what Pariah said a year ago, about the "Clinton body count", of the number of witnesses and journalists who were going to expose the Clintons, who mysteriously disappeared or "committed suicide" right before coming forward to expose the Clintons.

You like to call Trump a "piece of shit" and so forth, in your baseless slanders. In point of fact, Trump's accomplishments are quantifiable and undeniable, far surpassing any president in recent decades. Trump is a non-partisan who is saving America from the destructive policies of the far-Left and the globalists, and is cleaning up corruption in Washington, even that of establishment Republicans of hiss own party. Which is precisely why they oppose him so fiercely. Trump is the solution, not the problem.

He's a piece of shit that has a system set up to pay out hush money without apparently having to sign the legal documents that he's using against Stormy and who knows how many others.

The $850,000 paid out to Paula Jones in a settlement could be considered hush money, yes?

I also recently watched a 60-minute documentary titled JFK's Women: The Scandals Revealed. Just highlighting the women who were dangerous to national security were
1) Inga Arvad (1941, a Dutch reporter and German spy, the Navy wanted to dishonorably discharge JFK for regularly boasting about Navy secrets in bed with her, but because of his money and family power, despite his treason, he was just assigned to another Navy post that ceased their liason.)
2) Judith Campbell (1960, the call girl/girlfriend of Al Capone successor Sam Giancanna's second in command, and under FBI surveillance, JFK's sharing her favors created a direct link and potential extortion by the Mob of JFK. )
3) Marilyn Monroe (1962, who was sharing a bed with both JFK and RFK, and again under FBI surveillance, and JFK or both boasted national security secrets and mob connections that made Monroe terrified to the point she broke off contact. She could have leaked state secrets if she remained alive, or at least brought down the Kennedy administration. She may have been killed to silence her, there are many irregularities about the way she died, including a missing coroner's report.)
4) Marianna Navotny (1963, a call girl and communist, with family relations to the then-communist Czech president. Again, under FBI surveillance, and potentially destroying JFK's ability to remain president if exposed.)
5) Ellen Rometsch (1963, another call girl and East German spy, who could have been used to blackmail Kennedy or topple his presidency, another under FBI investigation. According to the documentary, the Senate wanted to open a public investigation, and RFK begged FBI director J. Edgar Hoover to recommend the Senate against it. Hoover stopped the investigation, which made the Kennedy administration subservient to Hoover from that point on. But if exposed, JFK's affair would have forced his impeachment or resignation. This last call girl was paid a large sum of cash to buy her silence, and everyone wanted her to talk. Kennedy was saved from exposure by his death.

Lyndon Johnson as president was allegedly worse. Including a sexual affair with his biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin. As we discussed in previous topics, Johnson is known to have had people killed. Potentially including his predecessor JFK, who wanted to dump LBJ as Vice President in his 1964 re-election, and possibly LBJ had him killed to allow him to be president.

Nixon, his crimes are so well known they don't need to be further detailed.

I skipped them, but FDR, Truman and Eisenhower are all known or alleged to have had extramarital affairs as well.

George H.W. Bush was also alleged to have at least one affair during his presidency.

Bill Clinton... again, I don't even need to explain his "piece of shit" insatiable compulsion for extramarital affairs. But again, unlike Trump, Clinton's affairs are PROVEN, and include sexual harassment of employees, sexual assault, and rape, not just consensual sex.

So... in light of all this, what makes Donald Trump uniquely a "piece of shit", as you turn a blind eye toward all these others who have done the same or far worse? Trump's indiscretions don't rise to the level of "piece of shit" actions by FDR, JFK, LBJ, Nixon or Bill Clinton.
Beyond partisan selective outrage, I don't see a case made for your attitude toward Trump. Anything that will smear Trump or bring him down, right?

All your making clear is that if Clinton had been a republican you and the GOP would have treated it much differently. Instead you literally have decades of talking about it and using it politically. Clinton didn't have lawyers like Trump does nor had everyone including exwives sign non disclosure forms. He didn't send people to parking lots to threaten mothers with babies. Clinton's adultery will follow him and his legacy. The ride is just getting started with mr. grab them by the pussy and his enablers.

I haven't seen that Trump's legal team is that exemplary.

I pointed out that Clinton committed crimes, WAY beyond just consensual sex or an extramarital affair. He was collectively fined in the neighborhood of a million dollars, he was disbarred. He was impeached, censured, fined. HOW IS THERE >>>ANY<< equivalency in that to the relatively minor actions of Trump?

Likewise, the Kennedys had money equivalent to that of Trump. And the Kennedys used bribes and influence to hide their sexual affairs and crimes. I'd further point out that both JFK and RFK won elections due to Mafia assistance (Joseph Kennedy's mob connections, dating back to his bootlegging and insider trading days.)

You take wild speculation and half-baked manufactured stories by blatantly anti-Trump sources as absolute fact, from two porn stars, no less, pornstars who were perfectly willing to take a $130,000 nondisclosure payment, and then 11 years later come out of the blue with wild sexual stories. Scout's honor!

Give me a break.

And for clearly documented events involving the Clintons and the Kennedys, you give a complete free pass.
For allegations that are ABSOLUTELY UNPROVEN about Trump, you accept unquestionably every word. This is a batant and desperate attempt for the Left to convict or at least smear Trump out of office, with any vile trick they can pull off. Most of the public sees that. Except for the far-Left/MediaMatters crowd, who have a long history of these kind of smear tactics.

I noticed Stormy made the fat pile of shit shut up. Somebody who has no problem calling women accusers liars is treating this one differently.

So Trump now says he was not informed about his lawyer paying out hush money. Time for Stormy and all the other women to get the fat fuck under oath.

CNN and MSNBC: ALL DAY ALL NIGHT, ALL STORMY WEATHERS ALL THE TIME!! 24/7 !!!

Meanwhile, all the treasonous stuff Hillary and Obama did, rigging elections, Hillary and Donna Brazile rigging televised CNN presidential debates, selling State Department influence through hundreds of millions in donations to the Clinton Foundation, selling 20% of the U.S. uranium supply to the Russians in exchange for more donations to the Clintons and other officials. Compromising U.S. national security through Hillary Clinton's illegal use of a private server ripe for the hacking by the Russians and Chinese. And Hillary and her staffers bleach-bitting computer hardrives, smashing cel-phones with a hammer, and deleting 33,000 e-mails AFTER THER WERE SUBPOENAED by Congress and FBI investigators.

Or if just sticking to sex scandals, how about the liberal media give some airtime and balanced coverage to Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie, Juanita Broaddrick, and Monica Lewinsky, who were all victimized by Bill Clinton. And further victimized by Hillary Clinton, who led the charge to discredit and intimidate these women into silence. >>>THESE<<<< victimized and intimidated women the mainstream media has been ignoring for over 20 years.

And as Mark Levin said on Sean Hannity tonight, "Under oath for WHAT? What is the charge Trump is accused of?"
There is absolutely no evidence of anything, because it doesn't exist. All the testimony would be is a fishing expedition, a perjury trap, that has nothing to do with alleged Russia "collusion" (which also isn't a crime, any more than any incoming administration establishing relations with foreign governments they will be dealing with.)

It frankly pisses me off that 100% of the evidence of illegal dealings with Russia, illegal FISA surveillance, manipulating the election through abuses by public officials (Loretta Lynch, James Comey, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein and wife, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr and wife, Rudolfo Contreras, Andrew Weissman, and Robert Meuller, and not even a complete list of high-level officials) ALL lead to Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, and yet it is not even being investigated.
For the clear purpose of 1) rig the election for Hillary, and 2) cripple or depose Trump's presidency.

But what one pornstar of questionable integrity alleges about Trump is so much more important than the Democrat/Left weaponizing government against its citizens and staging a political coup through public officials against an elected president. Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Actually it's more than just one woman WB and Trump has far more problems than just them. If it's any consolation I don't think even Trump would deserve being impeached for lying under oath about having consensual sex. I say that knowing the hypocrisy on your side would never hold Trump to the same standard as Clinton.

From the No Moore GOP Roy Moore topic about 2 months ago:

As compared to...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troopergate_(Bill_Clinton)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton%E2%80%93Lewinsky_scandal




...the documented, proven, fined, impeached, censured, disbarred facts in comparable allegations regarding Bill Clinton.

Do you like that Trump has this built in deal where his lawyer just pays out hush money to people he fucked and claims it's done without his knowledge WB?

I believe the exact term was non-disclosure agreement, and they are not unheard of in the business world.

Particularly among high-profile wealthy people, who are targets for all kinds of allegations and shakedowns.

Committing adultery and trying to cover it up isn't really applicable in that way. And imagine that Trump isn't lying. He's keeping a lawyer that has made him look like a lying cheating shit bag. Seems like he likes the job Cohen did for him.

Your hypocrisy is on full display, M E M.

Again, you NEVER held Democrats to the same standard you hold Donald Trump to.
And again, there is far more evidence against Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, JFK, RFK, LBJ and many other Democrats than there is against Trump, in a still unproven allegation.

Why don't you just admit that the true purpose of the Democrat/MediaMatters/Left's sexual allegations against Trump is to depose a Republican president by whatever contrivance you can toss out there?

We've discussed Clinton for over 2 decades. You've made it clear that you're the hypocrite. Note not one negative comment for Trump from you. You only have them for the other side.