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blah blah religion


Wonder Girl, I said Jefferson wasn't Christian in the traditional sense, and he wasn't. Using your beliefs to reflect your work and laws is a far cry from trying to make your beliefs the official beliefs. Adding "under god" during the Cold War and putting the Ten Commandments in Government buildings is an attempt to make us a christian nation. So, yeah, believe what you want, but don't put god into the law. That's why it says by their creator (which is expressing a beliegf) but also says a "separation of church and state."



Your intolerant contempt for opposing views, your insults, and your lack of civility once again destroy your credibility. If you'd even bothered to make a credible case for your view in the first place.

Again, the "wall of separation" between Church and State is something Jefferson mentioned once in his entire life, in an obscure letter.
And the writings of virtually all the founding fathers (see what I quoted in my post above), all emphasize the essential role they intended for the Bible in government and education.
They believed that any attempt at democracy that DIDN'T have the Bible as its foundation was doomed to failure.

The only limit the founders had was to prevent dominance of one denomination over government and imposing one denomination as a state religion. (As Roman Catholicism dominated virtually all of Europe, and the Anglican Church dominated Britain, to the exclusion of other denominational faiths. This is what many fled to America for, so they could practice what they believed, instead of what was imposed on them in Europe.)


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Fearmongering like Bush using 9/11 to justify every little thing [?]
Or fearmongering like using 9/11 and Terror Alerts during election cycles like Bush did in 2004?



That is wild conspiracy theory on your part, to spitefully discredit a president you don't like, with absolutely nothing to back it up.


Conspiracy theory? I didn't just type that he caused 9/11, just that he heavily uses it. And he did. He mentioned 9/11 a lot during the campaign. And anytime he's questioned it comes up as an excuse. And there were a lot of terror alerts leading up to the election (which all stopped soon afterwards).



It's still highly speculative on your part.

Assholes on the Left (including the chairman of the DNC, and again, based on nothing but partisan venom and wild speculation) did accuse Bush of knowing in advance about 9-11, and being complicit in allowing it to happen.

I think Bush was being cautious and giving maximum warning to potential terror, in direct response to liberals saying he didn't give enough warning to the potential and threats before 9-11.
So it's the typical hysteria-driven "too much/not enough" vaccilating outcries of the Democrats no matter what is done. Regardless of what Bush does, you and other Democrats will complain about it, and accuse him of having the most contemptible motives possible, thus smearing Bush's international credibility, and ability to act.

Which is what Ann Coulter talked about in her book, Traitor, that liberals consistently pursue goals opposite what is best for the country.
And with malice and intolerance, smear anyone who doesn't ascribe to their liberal agenda.

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