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I'm still at a loss to understand what in Obama's policy would create jobs. In taxation, in expanded regulation, in treating any profit and growth as "greed" and punishing it, I don't see what would logically create growth in Obama's 8 years.

And when you consider that black unemployment is lower than at any time since 1972, Hispanic unemployment is tied with its historic lowest, women's unemployment is at its lowest since 1952, and youth unemployment likewise is at its lowest since 1952, economic performance overall is at its best since 2000, unemployment in every demographic all at lows that FAR precede those in Obama's 8 years, I don't see except through manipulating statistics how anyone could front the notion that things were better under Obama.

Lowering taxes makes sense as a policy that creates economic growth, as it did under JFK, Reagan, and W. Bush.
Cutting regulation logically creates growth, and it has.
Enacting policy that doesn't punish wealth creation logically creates growth, as it has under Trump.

M E M, you've yet to explain not only how things were better under Obama, but with policies that crippled growth under Obama, why in hell would they be better under Obama? By what logic?
Every economic indicator shows things are better under Trump.



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Care to explain why you like less job creation under Trump's first 19 months than Obama's greater job creation in his last 19 months? Trump delivers less with more government spending to boot.


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Btw most of the gains for blacks and others happened under Obama's time as President. You know that.


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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Btw most of the gains for blacks and others happened under Obama's time as President. You know that.



No, that propaganda talking point doesn't fly. Obama never reached 3% annual growth in 8 years.
Trump is currently headed for 4.1%, at least, in just over a year in office.

Under Obama, black disability and food stamp enrollment had doubled on his watch. Trump with job creation had completely reversed that in his first year. Tavis Smiley said that Obama had reversed 50 year of black progress in his term, and that if he were a white president there would have been million-man black marches on Washington.

AGAIN: If the economic numbers are the best overall since at least 2000, they are not only better than Obama's term, but better than the 8 years preceding Obama, with black numbers better than any year since 1972. Similarly Hispanics, women and youth unemployment the best in decades, FAR preceding Obama's term.

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Sarah Sanders's bizarrely incorrect argument about how Trump is helping black Americans

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Over the last 19 months of Obama’s administration, more jobs were created for black and Hispanic Americans than the same period under Trump. During those last 19 months, whites experienced lower job growth than they have under Trump. During the first 19 months of each administration, there’s no contest, because of the recession.

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And we all know how much the Washington Post loves Donald Trump!


Suffice it to say, they will ALWAYS try to find a context to discount Trump's achievements, despite Trump's creating 4.1% annual growth in just his first 18 months, not to mention all his other achievements. It's just a smoke-and-mirrors narrative to allege that Obama (who never achieved 3% growth in any of his 8 years, who doubled food stamp and disability enrollment, who called 1 to 2% annual growth the "new normal" and that it was delusional to even aspire to higher annual growth, who created 10 trillion in new debt to create the illusion of growth, who printed over 3 trillion in new currency to spend even more....) And now that Trump has achieved 4% and higher, and overall growth the highest since at least 2000 ( high numbers not matched since >>>FAR<<< before Obama's presidency), the Democrats and lying media try to allege Trump's achievements are actually Obama's achievement, and that things were actually better under Obama?
WHAT?!?
How can they take credit for it when they never envisioned 4% growth as even a possibility? Clearly, it is Trump's achievement, based on policy implemented by Trump, creating growth that the previous Obama team never even imagined possible.

And you never answered my question, M E M:

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I'm still at a loss to understand what in Obama's policy would create jobs. In taxation, in expanded regulation, in treating any profit and growth as "greed" and punishing it, I don't see what would logically create growth in Obama's 8 years.

And when you consider that black unemployment is lower than at any time since 1972, Hispanic unemployment is tied with its historic lowest, women's unemployment is at its lowest since 1952, and youth unemployment likewise is at its lowest since 1952, economic performance overall is at its best since 2000, unemployment in every demographic all at lows that FAR precede those in Obama's 8 years, I don't see except through manipulating statistics how anyone could front the notion that things were better under Obama.

Lowering taxes makes sense as a policy that creates economic growth, as it did under JFK, Reagan, and W. Bush.
Cutting regulation logically creates growth, and it has.
Enacting policy that doesn't punish wealth creation logically creates growth, as it has under Trump.

M E M, you've yet to explain not only how things were better under Obama, but with policies that crippled growth under Obama, why in hell would they be better under Obama? By what logic?
Every economic indicator shows things are better under Trump.



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And we all know how much the Washington Post loves Donald Trump!


Suffice it to say, they will ALWAYS try to find a context to discount Trump's ...


As I mentioned previously, I heard that Obama had more jobs created in his final 19 months than Trump's first 19 months on FOX by Chris Wallace. I think you're the one guilty to discount data that doesn't work with your propaganda. As I said before I get why you like that fraudster Dinesh.
Oh and some GDP news...
GDP growth touted by Trump as "historic" is anything but


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Maria Bartiromo on her weekly Sunday Morning Futures show yesterday focused on the absolute refusal of the collective liberal media to report the facts regarding the econopmic miracle Trump has unleashed, that ios largely going unreported by the 80%-plus liberal media that despises Trump and openly advocates as a PR wing for the Democrats.

Bartiromo also expressed that she thinks it's obscene how the liberal media doesn't report the facts regarding the corruption of investigators in the Meuller investigation, and the many conflicts of interest among Meuller, Rosenstein, Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe, James Comey, Andrew Weissman, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr and wife Nellie Ohr, among others. The conflict of interest and fraudulent FISA requests alone should end the investigation and throw out all evidence obtained on false grounds. EVERY LAST ONE of these individuals has demonstrated conflict of interest and a malicious willingness to manipulate the evidence to support their political biases, for Hillary and against Trump.

https://www.conservapedia.com/Russian_collusion_hoax

It's like a Soviet-style investigation, where you start out with someone you want to destroy, and then you work in reverse and manufacture the crime.



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Obama had more jobs created in his last 18 than Trump did in his first 18 months. Here's the difference between us WB, I'm not bitching about the economy like you were when more jobs were being created under Obama. You can celebrate less jobs created under Trump, the numbers are still good but it's still less and that's with your party turning on the money faucet while cutting taxes.


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Trump is restructuring the economy for long-term growth. The bottom line is, Trump is creating better overall performace across the economy, foreign trade deals, the war in Iraq/Syria and others too many to mention.

You demonize Trump on every aspect, and then allege "I'm not bitching about the economy like you were...".
Please M E M, be serious. No one believes that. You (and your party) have long knives and slander out for Trump at every turn, and you don't even care if it's true, so long as it brings Trump down. Whether it's the Kavenaugh supreme cout nomination, or abuse of DOJ and FBI to manufacture an "insurance policy" to cripple and/or depose him as president.

The Democrat/Left, and their allies in their PR wing, the liberal media, are using every arrow in their arsenal to try and bring Trump down. Including selective omission from mainstream/liberal news coverage of Trump's incredible accomplishments.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ingly_long_list


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